1.7-1.8ml of GBL was my sweet spot.
Depends on size, weight of course.A little bit too much for my liking, 1,5ml is my ideal dose for gbl or bdo.
Back in the late 90s, we bought a 200 liter metal vat/barrel GBL from a chemical supplier in Europe for around 2500 EUR.. (The NaOH were bought from another source thoughJeez..... I'm currently paying £500 for 500ml !!! (for GBL)
Back in the late 90s, we bought a 200 liter metal vat/barrel GBL from a chemical supplier in Europe for around 2500 EUR.. (The NaOH were bought from another source though) Old times and sins now forgotten.
Yes, you are right. I calculated the price wrong from my currency, it was 18000 SEK (1600 EUR) I believe, for BASF gbl. There are days I sorely miss the white fluffy GHB powder, but all in all I am glad those days are over =) Have a nice day everyone!these 205l barrels? this price i a bit high for that amount. the main supplier for gbl sells 1000l for around 1600eur...
There are days I sorely miss the white fluffy GHB powder,
Well it's not that far removed from monosodium glutamate (msg)...one german i know had the idea to cook with na-ghb.
I've woken up, half way through falling off computer seat (sometimes with trousers around ankles!). Def trial and error, with a good helping of horrible embarrassment.Nah, it's a wonderful drug. You just have to piss about a bit finding your exact sweet spot. 0.1 less than unconsciousness, which is a mere occupational hazard to the committed user.
Interesting. Very interesting indeed. In terms of the the physical taste they are not a million miles apart. They would seem to be in very similar ball parks indeed.Well it's not that far removed from monosodium glutamate (msg)...
Unfortunately, it seems that it's not a cake walk in the park for a person with zero chemistry skills or knowledge to turn MSG into GHB.
You decarboxylate glutamate......... With this you could do some sandmeyer like reaction................
Well, it's possible to turn GABA into GHB, with a very simple method. Heating an amine with nitrous acid (generated with potassium nitrite and hydrochloric acid) turns the NH2 into an OH group, so gamma amino butyric acid (available from lots of places) gets turned into gamma hydroxybutyric acid. Can't remember if it has a specific name though...A quick search online found a couple of threads on the above topic of interest. Unfortunately, it seems that it's not a cake walk in the park for a person with zero chemistry skills or knowledge to turn MSG into GHB. Perhaps it would be like Jesus turning water into wine, although probably nowhere near as far fetched as that.
The mention of the similarities between the two substances was initially very exciting though I have to say.