Stimulants What would you say is one step above caffeine

[ArtPlug]

I enjoy energy drinks (with other substanaces combined) I enjoy the feeling they give me but, I dont really enjoy stimulants. Stimulants make me feel like shit, they give me an "impending doom" feeling. As the title says, im wondering what are some stiumlants you would consider on the same tier or above caffiene?

 

[6apebillen]

Arguably noopept or other nootropics could be a good one, i've only tried noopept but it gave me a very clear headed focused feeling. not so much physical stimulation as with caffeine, mostly mental though.
combines great with psychedelics also, makes the whole trip super clear feeling as opposed to a bit of a cloudy headspace I get sometimes.

 

[ArtPlug]

Arguably noopept or other nootropics could be a good one, i've only tried noopept but it gave me a very clear headed focused feeling. not so much physical stimulation as with caffeine, mostly mental though.
combines great with psychedelics also, makes the whole trip super clear feeling as opposed to a bit of a cloudy headspace I get sometimes.

ive heard of this, but i think it got banned in my country at the same time as phenibut, ill have to have a look into it. Thank you

 

[6apebillen]

ive heard of this, but i think it got banned in my country at the same time as phenibut, ill have to have a look into it. Thank you

ah that would be a shame! id advice then to look around for other stuff that falls under the nootropic umbrella that is still legal. cheers!

 

[WritingOnTheWall]

Modafinil

 

[cnnka]

Caffeine + Nicotine.
Low dose aderall

 

[evo4ever]

I was going to say Cocaine but the gap between them is so great there must be a drug or two which separates them. I'd probably say Modafinil and maybe some other stimulant as well.

 

[macaumacau]

拉edbull + cocaine

 

[BadBoy377]

+1 for modafinal.

I actually prefer adrafinal for some reason.

 

[BadBoy377]

Low dose methylphenidate also good.

 

[Pirrracetamol]

Coffee

 

[Keif' Richards]

Ephedrine/Pseudoephedrine

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

As the title says, im wondering what are some stiumlants you would consider on the same tier or above caffiene?

Chai (Indian Tea)

 

[BadBoy377]

Ephedrine/Pseudoephedrine

Do you find you get much of a boost off pseudoephedrine? I use it fairly regularly due to some sinus issues.

 

[Keif' Richards]

I´ve used both in the past and I definitely feel they are superior to caffeine, but so much harder to acquire. @BadBoy377

 

[BadBoy377]

Aye, well caffeine is everywhere indeed. Like booze.

What sort of dosage is your pseudo for a boost? You take pregabalin, yeah? Do you think that enhances the mild stimulation from the pseudo?

 

[Keif' Richards]

Hmmm @BadBoy377 that is a good question. See, I haven't really gotten recreational effects from Gabapentinoids in some time. However, I remember enough to know this: if you take a solid dose of Pregabalin (300mg-450mg) then you can consume more caffeine, as it kind of smooths out the rough edges. I would always say the same thing about Opioids. I could consume more caffeine, so I did and it always felt like they went well together. All of the jitters and peripheral side effect of caffeine are smoothed out in my opinion.

If I remember correctly, I think 50mg Ephedrine is a good place to start. Someone with tolerance to similar stimulants i.e. caffeine can probably tolerate as much as as 100mg Ephedrine.