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What would make you stop taking ecstasy?

stop taking ecstasy

i don't really like E's some of them have a good come down but the real good one's are rough to come down i get anxiety attacks
panic attacks and all sorts of shit. But when i do have it i'll stop after i get a bad one and i'm in hospital.
 
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Thanks for your responses guys. It's actually pretty interesting, the reasons that you guys have given are generally the ones stated in the research, ie 'changing cost-benefit ratio', which means that the bad points are outweighing the bad. And money. :) Pregancy was an interesting point, but somehow saying "c'mon girls, get pregnant so you can stop pilling' wouldn't go down too well =D

On the point of irreversible damage to the brain, I gotta say that there are so many studies which show conclusively that ecstacy does fuck your brain a great deal. I've noticed tho, and this is what actually made me decide to do this topic, is that every time a study or article is posted that says that pills fuck you, everyone picks the absolute shit out of it! Often the articles do have so many methodological problems that you cant help but discredit them, but there are some that do seem valid and methodologically sound. Could it be that no one really wants to think about the fact that we are probably fucking our brains...?
:)

Btw, obviously a study has to be credible, ie, not say something like 'ecstasy is highly addictive', like one article did (even though it was an article about the study that said it, not the study itself). So what makes a study credible? What would it take for you to say, shit, that makes sense?

Personally, I don't know. I think I agree with everyone, that when you just think that spending money so you can feel great for a couple of hours and then shit for a few days is no longer worth it, then I'd stop. Not quite there tho. And I know it messes with your brain, and I'm still taking it. Which is kinda disturbing coz I've been reading so much lit saying it's bad for you, and having more than I would be normally...hmmm...
 
surrealthoughts said:


a beer will get my high, possibly cause some low level of toxicity but it definetely wont cos me long-lasting permanent damage so i dont see that as a problem, same with quite a few other drugs...

Dont mean to be a smartarse, but alcohol is a toxin and can cause long lasting and irreversable damage. Even though one drink most likely wont cause damage, who ever stops at one ?
Have a read :)

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-04/ace-tbr040902.php
http://ncadi.samhsa.gov/reality/articles/2003/ama.asp
http://www.hendrickhealth.org/healthy/000039.htm
 
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I think i'd have to put a massive ditto here to everything that has been said so far, but i think i have more to add also...

i actually have been on a bit of a break since the beginning of the year and i don't really miss it that much at all. I had a 1/2 at IM two weekends ago, but i realised that evening that i would have been capable of going sober (not alcohol even) and still having the best evening.

The reason that i went on this veto to begin with was a massive drug crazed couple of weeks that occured around new-years just passed, where a whole heap of crazy shit happened and there were a mass of fights an break-ups in my social circle, basically splitting us in two. We were taking very regularly because we had no commitments, and the downsides were begging to outweigh the good times.

Therefore, i saw that i needed to stop and did so. Mostly everyone else follow suit. Things returned to normal, although a lot of the damage was irreversible, and remains to this day.

For me, i can see myself stopping my MDMA consumption again when my little brother (currently one year old) becomes a bit older, because i don't want him exposed to that kind of thing until he is old enough to deal with it in a mature and responsible fashion. Having experienced growing up in a household where drug consumption was a regular thing, i don't believe that it is fair on children to allow this to happen in their presence. Children are innocent and have the right to remain naive for as long as possible. Childish innocence is precious - something i value very strongly.
 
doofqueen said:
Theres alot of people saying that if they had children would 100% give up drugs...im not too sure they would as its all quite hypothetical...or maybe they would and i really am irresponsible :\ *sigh*

i didnt even get into the 'drug scene' till about a year or two ago, i didn't. I've only started taking xtc in the last year and i have an 8 yr old son....it's never in the house...i never pill when he's around...i never have a come down when he's around and its an occasional thing i do some weekends when he is spending time with his father.

It's my little release... i go out to dance...spend some time with friends and get off my chops 8)

I wonder how all of you that said you would give up pills once you had a family would feel the same about alcohol....would you take your kids to a party where they were serving it? would you still drink alcohol on a night out while u had a night to yourselves and your kids are getting babysat? It's still fucking you up....as socially acceptable as it is...then again your answers are still only going to be 'hypothetical' yeah? *shrugs*

I suppose the above paragraph also ties in with 'alchohol is evil thread'

I've been getting heaps paranoid about the fact that i am a mother and i do drugs esp from my BL parents thread when the only parents that replied saidthey dont do drugs at all so i feel a little alone in the matter but i have thought it over and i've decided that i know what im doing and thats that :)

and i suppose that should have gone in my bl parents thread but it all ties into this one post seeing as everyone is talking about having kids and stopping all drug use

I had my son when i was 16 yrs old...i was a baby...i'm still growing up and only starting to have a decent social life now (and no i dont mean its decent just cos drugs are involved) so i'm only just starting to live life now...I'm 25 and i have an 8 yr old...whats a girl to do aye? (if u think the answer is simple think again and just TRY and picture yoursel in my shoes) :)

Okay, I haven't actually had my child yet, so I may come back in a couple of months and tell you otherwise, but!

Yes, I am 100% giving up drugs. Whether or not my fiance does is not up to me, and he still has a few beers every now and then and that doesn't bother me because he's responsible and it's his choice. I quit smoking and drinking to lead a healthier (although with more icecream) lifestyle for baby and that's the way I plan to keep it. I mean, not only do I feel better about making what I think are the right choices for my kid, but I feel healthier and happier anyway.

That's not to say that anyone who is a parent and takes drugs is a bad person or a bad parent. It's obviously a personal choice and if you (or whoever) feels like that's the way you want to live your life and you're not affecting your child, then that's your decision and yours alone. The only things about it that bother me are (this is a hypothetical "you", I'm not talking about anyone in particular):

1. The chance that you could fuck yourself up and then not be able to be there for your child. I mean, as most people on this board are aware there's always a risk when doing any kind of drug. It's too big a risk for me to take when I have a small person who can't care for themselves, personally.

2. The child somehow finds out what's going on and uses this as part of you being a "role model". I know they probably won't find out and most parents don't do any recreational drugs around their child, but it bothers me that it could make the child think it was the "right thing to do", maybe. In the way that kids who have parents who smoke are more likely to smoke, and so on. Parents are a huge influence in a child's life, I'm not sure if this is the influence I'd be wanting to make.

In response to the specific questions about alcohol, no, for the time being I wouldn't take my child to a party where they were serving alcohol. I'm always reminded of my little brother, when he was 10, at a New Years party with my parents drunk off his nut because the adults were all too pissed to actually watch what the kids were doing.

The "alcohol on a night out" question - I guess it depends. If it was a special occasion like an anniversary or a birthday, a nice glass of wine would be suitable, I think. I mean, it's hard to just take 1/16 of a pill because you want to "complement your meal", yanno? I don't even know if that makes sense. I wouldn't drink alcohol for the sake of drinking alcohol on a night out, no. I certainly wouldn't come home to the babysitter tanked and passing out and puking on the carpet.

Like I said, though, it's a personal choice. Being a teenage parent can't be easy and you must have missed out on a lot of the "teenage" stuff. If you feel like you're doing the right thing then that's really all that matters. No one can tell you whether or not it makes you a "bad parent". I say kudos to you for being brave enough to admit that you were feeling shitty about it.
 
slm...thanks hun :) i know no one is probably judging me its just a paranoia i have about myself i guess because it is to do with my child and he is the most important thing to me so hearing everyone say that would definitely stop if they had kids etc makes me question what i'm doing for his sake

anna...i dont smoke in the house and the whole fucking yourself up and might not be able to look after your child is a big issue with me because i ceratainly don't want to die (espeacially with a drug over dose) imagine what that would do to him? :(

that's why i never over do it and always am careful :)
 
doofqueen said:
anna...i dont smoke in the house and the whole fucking yourself up and might not be able to look after your child is a big issue with me because i ceratainly don't want to die (espeacially with a drug over dose) imagine what that would do to him? :(

that's why i never over do it and always am careful :)

I'm glad to hear it :) I didn't at all mean to say that you weren't careful or that you were a bad parent, I was so worried that my post might come across sounding like I did. You obviously care a lot about your son and raising him "right", simply to be so worried about whether or not you're doing what's best for him, and ultimately, that's the most important thing, isn't it?

Hope I didn't offend you in any way. If I did, please PM me and we'll talk about it! :D
 
*hugs* no you didnt hun...its all good...a forum is a place of discussion and thats what we do hey? ;) like i said i've just been paranoid about it becasue everyone said they would totally give it up and i started way after he was already born and only one person actually admitted to it in the BL parents thread (so was questioning it) but yep i know i'm doing a good job because all i need to do is look at the person he has become at the tender age of eight and know i've raised a gorgeous little spirit *proud* I cant wait to see what sort of person he will be at eighteen :)
 
i agree with pregnancy/family and all that but the only thing that would make me give up in the near future ( i dont plan on starting a family for about another 10 years) would be

*if the comedowns/bad times/next days were outweighing the good times. i think if it gets to that point you have to stop cos its just not worth it.
 
muzby said:
if PAN PHARMACEUTICALS start making ecstacy pills.....

That is absolute gold!!

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As for me...I've been on a self imposed 3 month sober stint (no drugs or alcohol at all). Reasons for this:

*I partied WAY too hard over summer - my tolerance, health & bank account were all suffering.

*I was getting to the point of not enjoying mdma anymore (Sure sitting on a beanbag is fun, but being attached to one for around 8 hours and missing most of the DJs you want to see cos your too fucked to move...)

At this stage, the break ends next month, but I have no plans to hit the pills the way I was before. I've rather enjoyed going out straight (and I think it is time to expand the drug horizons - starting with acid ;) )

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What would make me stop permanently?

Proof of long term brain damage - not really... I guess like most people, the long term is just too far off to think about.

Pregnancy - definitely... but not for a long time to come (if ever haha)

When I reach the point that the drug no longer provides any positive benefits to my life, that'll be the day I'll call it quits.

I guess it's the same as most things in your life... when the bad outweighs the good :\
 
my boyrfriend hates me doing it too much, so i guess if it meant losing him.....i would definately stop. :\
 
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