What would cause a worse comedown

[Cdilly93]

Which would cause a worse comedown or chance of having LTC. Dosing 500mg mdma within 8 hours.. Or doing a moderate amount of adderall/alcohol through the 8 hours and then just doing 150mg mdma more towards the end? Sorry if this is a rather stupid question haha, Just contemplating new/safer ways to party while still having the absolute most fun.

 

[Deleted member 337748]

straight mdma would be my choice. other choice seems to be worse in more than one way. mdma is best and safest when not complicated with other drugs in my opinion. i would do the 500mgs. mdma with a good starter dose following two redose's spread accordingly based on you. you better be experienced and knowledgable. you shouldnt really need more than 300mg for a long night unless its cut or not true mdma. good luck saftey first.

 

[infectedmushroom]

500mg is a very large dose. Assuming you have decent product start with 150mg, and redose 75mg within an hour or so if you want to feel nicer. If the MDMA isn't great a small dose of adderall while you're rolling might kick it in nicely. I wouldn't recommend more than a drink or two, before you dose, for the pre-roll jitters and anxiousness (if you even get that.)

 

[myr]

There's a real danger hiding in the 'speed+alcohol then mdma later' combo. The amphetamine masks certain effects of alcohol and it's very easy to drink more than you would need normally. Then if you take a good dose of mdma and the speeds effects begin to subside plus having lots of alcohol in your blood, you might set yourself up for some blackouts and memory problems. I'm not talking about two beers obviously which is nice, has calories for dancing but the amount people usually party with. A beer or something every half an hour with some shots (because you can drink that easily on adderall) and bammm.

I'd proceed as suggested by infectedmushroom, 500mg is a lot. I usually take 120+60mg of uncut mdma a night. If you are not prone to comedowns, go for 120+80+80, that should give you a roll like this(empty stomach):
20-45 mins onset
5-20 mins come up
3,5-5 hrs plateau
1-2 hrs comedown
That's somewhere between 4,5-7 hrs of rolling (result vary from person to person, also set&setting dependent).
Also redosing more than once may increase undesirable side effects and may result in some mood swings the following week. Not everyone is prone to that but we have seen people having bad reactions to it. I am not sure of it but I'd bet this contributes to losing the magic sooner though, so I'll stick to one top-up in the future every now and then while my regular is just one dose of 120mg once a month.