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🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 What Was YOUR Nightly Fix? v. Smoking the Midnight Oil

Psychlone Jack said:
For sure. Wasn't H but bupe, shall we say the resumption at normal dose was a bit... rough lol. Not a near od really, but super high dose (~5x normal max) while not in the right mind. Still, the whole experience sucked balls on all levels.
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I see, 💯 the same for me- let's hope it never happens to either of us again .... (or anyone else for the matter)
 
TheLightBringer said:
Interesting, youre one of the few people ive talked to who actually like nutmeg. I had 2 friends who liked that stuff, one used it in low doses to boost his weed high since he did not seem to build a tolerance to nutmeg. Another said he got a weed/anticholinergic/pregabalin like feel from it. For me it always just felt like an anxiogenic, uncomfortable weed high without the euphoria and like I was sick with the flu, except it lasted 3 days…
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I love it.
 
Mushoku_Sensei said:
Last night was once again disappointed by 400 mg Tilidin that didn't do much but keep me fairly warm outside (3°C), so I added some Ket i.m., which hit harder than expected and 20 mg diazepam that put me to sleep eventually.

Today 400 mg Tramadol were just as disappointing and since I finally got it tested a tiny dose of H ( Low Q but no fent at least). All plus the usual boosters. Seems like a single near OD can jack up tolerance to pre-taper levels in no time... anyone experienced that as well?
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I don't know about a whether an OD can raise tolerance for sure (I've never ODed) but my guess is it would. In my experience doing an opiate taper, then taking a higher dose of opiates results in tolerance immediately rising to around pre-taper levels.

As for me tonight is pretty mellow, smoked some methamphetamine that I added a bit of purple amethyst MDMA to. Not enough for a full on roll, but enough to brighten up the world a bit and feel some universal love. Might take some eszopiclone in a bit to fall asleep.
 
Mushoku_Sensei said:
Seems like a single near OD can jack up tolerance to pre-taper levels in no time... anyone experienced that as well?
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IME this is true for most drugs with rapid tolerance buildup, the worst always seemed to be opioids and benzos which got up to pre taper tolerance after like 2 - 3 days of using high doses. Stimulants used to take a little longer to build tolerance unless you went on a hardcore 4 day binge.

But yes in my experience any quick use after a t-break jacked up tolerance again, and any OD of any drug always seemed to jack up tolerance for me as well.
 
Mushoku_Sensei said:
Well, according to a friend's AI it should be absorbed and there are even diazepam rectal solutions used clinically to treat an epileptic seizure so it should work and hit fast. I can't tell whether oral or rectal has more bioavailability so far, but it was just too late to wait for oral to kick in.... For me one point that I see as a good hint is how fast the pills dissolve in water- quite fast in this case. Like Zolpidem
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As I remember diazepam has poor water solubilization.that's why in ampule form they added something like ethanol in solution..it hurts in muscle.in vein burns...never got some effect from snorting diazepam..oral and rectal b/a is almost the same-very high..about 90percent..most of benzos got poor water solubility...except halcyon
 
Mushoku_Sensei said:
Well, according to a friend's AI it should be absorbed and there are even diazepam rectal solutions used clinically to treat an epileptic seizure so it should work and hit fast. I can't tell whether oral or rectal has more bioavailability so far, but it was just too late to wait for oral to kick in.... For me one point that I see as a good hint is how fast the pills dissolve in water- quite fast in this case. Like Zolpidem
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I just checked and every source says it is slightly soluble at best...even if you could get it to dissolve it wouldn't absorb through the membrane very well. The pills shouldn't completely dissolve - there will still be visible particulates in the water, whereas if it were soluble the water would be clear. In the hospital they use polyethylene glycol or propylene glycol to dissolve diazepam and keep it in solution. In PEG or PG it could very well have better absorption rectally than orally. another reason to double check ai answers - as someone who trains AI systems I can say they aren't perfect.
 
Nas47 said:
As I remember diazepam has poor water solubilization.that's why in ampule form they added something like ethanol in solution..it hurts in muscle.in vein burns...never got some effect from snorting diazepam..oral and rectal b/a is almost the same-very high..about 90percent..most of benzos got poor water solubility...except halcyon
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And Ativan. I had that IV in the hospital and it was pretty great.
 
Bit late, but thought I’d be fun to do an update on the rave I went to last Saturday, was interesting, had fun for the first time in ages though, I missed raving and xtc so damn much.

stuff taken in order that night:

- 1/2 sativa (strain unknown) pre-roll joint
- 3 lines speed (around 0.4-0.5g estimated)
- 2.5 quarters xtc pill (120-138mg MDMA)
- 1/2 2C-B pill (6-10mg)
- 1.5 lines 3-MMC
- 2 line 2-MMC
- 30-40mg diazepam

Started off smoking with the friend I was supposed to go to the rave with, but the weed made her self-conscious so she ended up leaving before it started. Bit sad, but I can vibe by myself and I knew the venue and a bunch of people there, so was fine. Started off with 3 lines of speed at the start, then once some people I knew arrived I took the xtc and 2C-B.

Never taken 2C-B before, lowkey took it out of boredom, didn’t notice anything major because it was so low dose, aside for very minor visual tracers from the lights and everything seeming slightly more alive in a way I usually don’t experience on xtc alone. Thought I could feel the xtc kicking in, disappointed as it didn’t feel as intense as I remembered it from previous times.

got offered some real, tested 3-MMC which was lovely, cuz fuck that is hard to come across here. Then I had that moment of ohhh the xtc is hitting now and didn’t yet before and the 3-MMC made it so fucking good, never danced like that, had a bunch of people compliment my dancing, was really in the zone haha.

Later some 2-MMC with friends, also ended up giving the leftover coke I had away to one of my friends cuz I hated that shit and ehh, drugs are more fun when shared for sure.

The way back sucked. Like bad. Lost my sunglasses, no makeup remover AND no earbuds, so no music. Just me feeling like an alien on public transport trying not to tweak out. Then had to go home to my mom which, yeah. Did so much diazepam in an attempt to come down, idk it made the xtc comedown really weird and pretty much blacked out the entire Sunday after.

Now I still kind of feel the xtc comedown, but it’s like… depressing because having to go back to my shithole of using alone in my room while lying to my mom, but xtc comedowns are also weirdly positive for me where coming back from queer raves specifically makes me remember the fact that there is a community out there for me and something to hold onto for the future. Overall a good night.

Thinking of starting a thread for people to share their rave experiences, idk if that already exists though. I’m curious how different people, countries, cultures, etc… experience rave culture, as my only experiences are with Dutch queer raves & 24h clubs.

Today been sober so far, really regretting the diazepam because I always get into absolute rage mode when the benzos start to leave my system. Might do some ket tonight idk, or just weed. Feeling super negative and positive at the same time ugh.

Hope y’all are having a decent evening :)
 
Gridlink said:
I just checked and every source says it is slightly soluble at best...even if you could get it to dissolve it wouldn't absorb through the membrane very well. The pills shouldn't completely dissolve - there will still be visible particulates in the water, whereas if it were soluble the water would be clear. In the hospital they use polyethylene glycol or propylene glycol to dissolve diazepam and keep it in solution. In PEG or PG it could very well have better absorption rectally than orally. another reason to double check ai answers - as someone who trains AI systems I can say they aren't perfect.
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Oh, thanks for the info! Dw I'm not an AI fan, just really don't have the time to research so many things 😮‍💨. But hey, thanks for helping out! 😁
🤔 So should I try dissolving it in PG? I got plenty of that - good idea for the butt or not?
 
Today I wasn't satisfied with myself at all. Been eating myself through the pills and had another tiny shot (still don't know my dose yet) and it took me so much time it irritated me more (and wasn't enough either😒).
So I made another attempt to smoke some in a glass pipe (cause I can't handle a foil on my own 🙄) - damn it came on softly but not bad at all! 😀 Hahaha, nice 😎
 
Mushoku_Sensei said:
Oh, thanks for the info! Dw I'm not an AI fan, just really don't have the time to research so many things 😮‍💨. But hey, thanks for helping out! 😁
🤔 So should I try dissolving it in PG? I got plenty of that - good idea for the butt or not?
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I think dissolving it in PG and boofing it is the way to go. Oral bioavailability of diazepam is 70-75%, and research indicates the rectal bioavailability is a a whopping 80-90%! So if you have PG, I say go for it!
 
So far..

Chlorpheniramine 16mg
Diphenhydramine 100mg
Nutmeg
Coffee
Xanax 1mg
Subutex 6mg sublingually
Marijuana
Nicotine

When I swallowed my antihistamine one of the Diphenhydramines was still in my hand, must of just stuck to it, or something?! It's slightly fucking with my head right now... 😭
 
Gridlink said:
I think dissolving it in PG and boofing it is the way to go. Oral bioavailability of diazepam is 70-75%, and research indicates the rectal bioavailability is a a whopping 80-90%! So if you have PG, I say go for it!
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I tried to dissolve a ~3 mg piece in pure PG today, but it wouldn't dissolve (after two hours despite shaking it). So I added water to ~ 50%. It dissolved completely after a few hours. I hesitated to use it bc I was constantly falling asleep all day already (thanks to 487,5 mg Pregabalin and smoking a spliff which I'm not used to and that hit me pretty hard - bad timing in the early morning 🙄). I also had a small shot late afternoon that didn't really help 😞. Anyway I tried it and so far it's at least well tolerated, maybe next time I'd use even less PG and more water... I actually think I'm feeling it...
 
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