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[paranoid android]

AFAIK that special synergy is limited to the 3,3-diphenylheptanone class of opioids (and maybe bioisosteres thereof).

It WOULD be interesting to know if something like dextromoramide (Palfium) has that same synnergy but I've asked around and nobody even KNOWS someone who abused Palfium who is still alive to ask... which I suggest may indicate that it's generally a bad idea.

BTW I believe some first-generation antihistamines were classed as 'opiate-sparing' but I know while patent applications were made and one combination even made it into human trials... but no data on those trials has ever been made public (AFAIK).

Palfium was also mentoned in Trainspotting but ve read its dodgy as fuck. All the same i may try cyclizine with morphine just because lol

 

[4DQSAR]

Palfium was also mentoned in Trainspotting but ve read its dodgy as fuck. All the same i may try cyclizine with morphine just because lol

Yeah - Palfium was a death trap. a BLer told me of a friend being found dead in the pub toilets after whacking up the pills.

 

[CavernsoftheMind]

Just some kratom.

I'd like to consume a GABA-ergic right now.
But nah. Drank alcohol yesterday & took 6mg Diazepam 2 days ago.

I really need to watch out not fucking with my GABA daily.
I don't even like them that much, it's just a bit of comfort now that the person I cuddle with almost every night is on vacation for a month.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

I don't know much about it but as I understand it, long ago an extremely dangerous medication called Diconal was a prescrption drug in the UK. It contained 10mg of dipipanone (a methadone homologue) and 30mg of cyclizine hydrochloride (supposidly to treat the nausea caused by the opioid). Very quickly it was realized how deadly injecting that concoction was, so it was taken off the market. But cyclizine hydrochloride was still a [P] medication i.e. every pharmacy sold it. So people hooked on Diconal figured out that injecting a mixture of methadone (Physeptone) and cyclizine hydrochloride (Valoid) approximated the same rush.

A decade passed until someone on MMT with supervised consumption injected a cyclizine tablet (!) just curious to know what effect(s) (if any) it would have... It turned out that it was, essentially, the same. In fact it appears that ALL of the 3,3-diphenylheptanone class opioids consumed with cyclizine produced the same rush. I mean, methadone, dipipanone, phenadoxone and possibly even IC-26 will do the same.

The thing is, I don't think anyone REALLY knows why it works. I've read isolated case-reports on people given cyclizine lactate (which is far more water-soluble than the hydrochloride) developed an addiction to the stuff. Nobody has ever been able to nail down what the abstainance syndrome IS - other than nasty.

But other than for nausea, cyclizine really is best avoided. It just seems like it mixes badly with a whole range of other drugs.

Just a quick my 2 cents, cyclizine 1nr, 2 promethazine same time but nor so strong.

As for the combo inj of methadone and cyclizine is not available here as from my research you need cyclizine and inj methadone trick that rocks your socks but then it it also with pure lemon and no merj-levo and culyzine combined.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

total for the day-20mg diazepam,150mg lyrica,last cup of pods-around 30g

how u do it man?The weed?The sunny S>Africa?How u let the sun shines on ur soul?....everytime with good vibes.....lovin\ life....once u said i am on a very bad place and then dissapeared for a year....and that's all....u amaze me for real.....absolute enigma....stay as u are....keep this man....keep the sunshine in u.........just can't believe..incredible....wish soon to be on ur legs again without any health problem.....sorry man....i'm shockin'...u are magician somekind probably....master of balance

Means al lot but in my life I'm messing up and just found out recently.

Please be carefull with ipoids and antihistamines

Side note. I'm a freak of nature, if I have to day what I can use in one day will kill 80 % on the site, not bragging but actually crying as I have build such high tolerance to so many drugs.

Thanks but.

Awe

 

[4DQSAR]

Just a quick my 2 cents, cyclizine 1nr, 2 promethazine same time but nor so strong.

As for the combo inj of methadone and cyclizine is not available here as from my research you need cyclizine and inj methadone trick that rocks your socks but then it it also with pure lemon and no merj-levo and culyzine combined.

Cyclizine and promethazine are different compounds.

I only specified cyclizine hydrochloride because it isn't very water-soluble. So that's yet another risk factor.

But I am aware that door-to-door salesment who were sent to a town would add an income stream by smurfing every pharmacy IN that town. When 100 tablets costs £30 but people are prepared to pay £1 each, you can see that's never going to make a person rich, but it might be enough to stop them from starving.

But every single time I read about first generation antihustamines being mixed with opioids, I cringe. It's a terribly descructive practice. In the UK it was even noted that people who had run out of opioids would simply inject cyclizine - which causes seizures in large doses. Diconal was the one drug where HR workers in the UK had to admit that they had no tools to deal with. I think DDN even had a headline 'A Limit to Interventions' where it was found almost impossible to stop someone who had a Diconal habit.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

^^^ agreed the two aren't the same but I was talking about the specific comdo of Dipipanone and cyclizine that was a mix tablet of the two with a 25% opioid with 75% anti-hestimines and they are all oral tabs or caps so far as I know and research. I have never tried injecting it and also would not advise it as some stuff you mentioned above.

But I was just mentioning my own exp of mixing anti-hestimines with opiods and f8nding certain 1st generation anti-hestimines that do potentiates the opioids and and also something I never use to do but started to just recently but ROA was always oral, not inj.

So was just pointing that out from my own exp with which opioid and anti-hestimines works the best together for potentiating factors.

Sorry for any misunderstanding or maybe some wrongful input from my side...

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Evening blueworld

Sorry for slight absence but imbusy going through a bad physical problem and some mental ( cause of my BP )

7.5mg methadone
5mg diazepam
400mg meprobamate
16mg codeine
800mg paracetamol
0.05ml RSO Gelonade
2x 40mg THC Jelly Teddies.
100mg Diphenhydramine hcl

And a few other new meds that made me sick like a dog the last 2 days. But have to stick it out to see if it helps.

And then I will add it. Just not ready to divulge of it all yet.

Happy weekend all.

Edit: the paracetamol, codeine and meprobamate is a combo tablet that is = 8mg codeine, 200mg meprobamate and 400mg paracetamol

Oh and I still can't smoke anything yet. Freaking sucks.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

But every single time I read about first generation antihustamines being mixed with opioids, I cringe.

Since I'm using diphenhydramine as well - oral only! - would you mind explaining what's the reason for this? I mean what are they doing in the body as a combination and what does it cause?

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

On topic: trying to step down tonight to:
50 mg Tramadol
150 mg Pregabalin
Cannabis oil
... And just realized that I might have to taper the pregabalin as well, since I've been using it almost daily for more than a month now without noticing ... Low dose at least... Or is it too low to matter?

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Edit: the paracetamol, codeine and meprobamate is a combo tablet that is = 8mg codeine, 200mg meprobamate and 400mg paracetamol

Guessing Synaleve,

just fyi

stilpane has 50mg less Meprobamate per tablet/capsule, but is a third of the cost.

Also less paracetamol 320mg and @Joey would love this ingredient the most,. they throw in 32mg Caffeine, just to fuck with us.

Hope they are doing what they are meant to be doing though, just an FYI and that for some reason I find Stilpane far more "agreeable" than Synaleve. And it just might be that damn Caffeine

 

[4DQSAR]

@Coffeeshroom A few years ago I talked to a BLer who for whatever reasons was intecting diphenhydramine. I asked why and they couldn't really explain the subjective effects beyond saying that it produced a brief 'flash' (the correct term for an opioid rush) and led to compulsive re-dosing.

They even said that they didn't know why they were doing it beyond the fact that they were addicted to the needle and had nothing else.

Not long after they stopped posting. I forget the name but it was sort of shocking to know that some people really aren't interested in a specific ASC. They are what we in the UK sometimes refer to as 'wreckheads' i.e. any ASC is better than C.

I've known someone who for years who smokes cocaine but only when they cannot get hold of 'Spice'. I figure that's another case of 'wreckhead' behavior. They don't really care what it does - potency is the sole metric.

 

[Psychlone Jack]

Yo.

Been a bit of a weird one lol. Rocky start to the day with more puking, but this was from food that didn't agree with me and not methadone withdrawal. Off today at least, I was able to do my morning thing and recuperate fairly quickly, then after a few errands it was back home, into some comfy clothes, and downed 480mg dxm lol. Nice weird chill afternoon resting at home with some weed.

Took this evening's 59mg methadone earlier, been hitting the rosin pen and had a very nice joint just now, pre-bed - Biscotti Pancakes flower w/ Cereal Milk crumble. Breakfast for dinner.

 

[SuperPsych]

Got these 5mg THC/ 10mg CBD gummies recently and I've been taking .5-1 of them a night to help unwind and get into bedtime mode.
Took half of one of those 2 hours ago and am feeling it.

4mg Prazosin has kicked in
50mg Hydroxyzine a while before that
Will probably take some Mirtazapine. Have been tapering off so that I can trip but my trip might be getting delayed some anyways

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Guessing Synaleve,

just fyi

stilpane has 50mg less Meprobamate per tablet/capsule, but is a third of the cost.

Also less paracetamol 320mg and @Joey would love this ingredient the most,. they throw in 32mg Caffeine, just to fuck with us.

Hope they are doing what they are meant to be doing though, just an FYI and that for some reason I find Stilpane far more "agreeable" than Synaleve. And it just might be that damn Caffeine

Hey bud yes its synaleve but ingredients are as follow per cap
8mg codiene
200mg meprobamate
400mg paracetamol

Si are version has dosages in sum.
And yes I'm busy using the. For a specific reason. So end up taking 2xcaps 3 timea a day but today I only had on the morning and just now 2 with some extra methadone and diphenhydramine. And tons of water and and some nasty mix drink that's also full Macro and micro nutrients

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Hey bud yes its synaleve but ingredients are as follow per cap
8mg codiene
200mg meprobamate
400mg paracetamol

Si are version has dosages in sum.
And yes I'm busy using the. For a specific reason. So end up taking 2xcaps 3 timea a day but today I only had on the morning and just now 2 with some extra methadone and diphenhydramine. And tons of water and and some nasty mix drink that's also full Macro and micro nutrients

Yeah, I was thinking for a while after I posted that. And remembered you don't really use stimulants and are on methadone treatment, I should have taken that into consideration before posting, as the benefit of the extra meprobamate for you was the opposite for me.
I am a "stimulant responsive" person, so I guess the extra Meprobamate and no caffeine (remember I wasn't on Vyvanse in those days when I sampled Synaleve (sampled meaning I just "swiped a box"),

Anyway it was for educational purposes at the time.

So, yes, I agree and understand your reply 100%.

Thank you for the reply, as I can stop "pondering" about a poor post that looked "subjective", and it wasn't thought through properly by myself.

Hope you get through this tough time you are experiencing, I really do.

 

[PtahTek]

300mg gabapentin
half a joint of good wood
10mg oxy (real)
.4mg benzo
.1mg clonidine

woke this morning feeling fairly well rested.

dropping a tenth of a mg bnz every 3 weeks so far so good....

 

[SuperPsych]

Today I took 300mg Bupropion and my first dose of Concerta this morning, as well as plenty of caffeine. I'm hoping that I don't have too hard of a time falling asleep.

5mg THC / 10mg CBD edible
A few hits of some weed (DJ Short)
1200mg Gabapentin
50mg Hydroxyzine
2mg Prazosin

Have been using cannabis daily for about a week now. Nothing too crazy, but I'm contemplating taking a dab. Got some Purple Hindu Kush wax, which was one of my favorite strains before I quit smoking weed. I've said it before, but weed turned on me years back and I haven't been able to enjoy it for the last 5 years or so. I've been missing it so I'm giving being a stoner again my best shot.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Evening blueworld

Yeah guess it's night time or getting there, half past 10. Will maybe up till midnight who knows. But...

19:00
10mg methadone
5mg diazepam
400mg meprobamate
16mg codeine
900mg paracetamol
20mg thc toffee
And pizzzaa...

Smoke a pencil about an hour ago of some type of kush and kief spliff and some more RSO 0.05ml Gelonade and thinking of making tea.. got some triazolam today again for later when ready.

 

[Psychlone Jack]

Yo.

Got today and tomorrow off work, been lazing around for the most part today and loving it. Vaping nicotine, fucking around online, been vaping and dabbing rosin, took the evening's 57mg methadone a few minutes ago. Got a Mimosa rosin dispo, Cereal Milk crumble, GG#44 rosin badder and lots of flower, plus on my fourth cran-grape and SKYY vodka of the afternoon. Took the evening blood thinner and AP too. Feeling fiiinnneeeee.

About to twist up a Cookies collab with some London Pound Cake flower and Cereal Milk crumble.