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What Was YOUR Morning Fix? v. Special K and Weedies

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Kratom really is a difficult substance to pin down, I have this conversation with my mother a lot who also uses it. Even between her and I we have some interesting reactions that don't always line up. We're both partial to green, but I'll switch to red later in the day and she will still be dosing like 2g of green before bed. We both use low dose green for work and stuff though.

You should ask her if she has trouble sleeping at night. I used to dose greens in the evening when I first started off, not knowing better and I can definitely say it impacted my sleep negatively. I'm sure she is like most mom's that " know what's best" but perhaps there's some room for improvement. I personally like to take red Vietnam and gold Maeng da for my evening dose in tea form. 3.50g red, and 1g gold.
 
You should ask her if she has trouble sleeping at night. I used to dose greens in the evening when I first started off, not knowing better and I can definitely say it impacted my sleep negatively. I'm sure she is like most mom's that " know what's best" but perhaps there's some room for improvement. I personally like to take red Vietnam and gold Maeng da for my evening dose in tea form. 3.50g red, and 1g gold.

Strangely enough she sleeps like a stone lol. Maybe she doesn't dose too close to her bedtime and I've just never noticed. She claims red and gold make her feel nothing whatsoever. I do have a theory that she has a previous drug tolerance from back in the day that she won't talk about though. She knows an awful lot about downers/opioids for claiming to have never been into them lol.
 
You should ask her if she has trouble sleeping at night

Yes I do, I'm back on mirtazapine nowbfir sleep, I tried 2 different types of Kratom for pain and relaxation and it didn't do much, tried 12.5 grams of a red strain in a day and 5 grams of a green one on another day

It felt like I'd drank coffee, that's it, then it wore off which was good as if I wanted to have the jitters I'd of just drank coffee lol
 
Yes I do, I'm back on mirtazapine nowbfir sleep, I tried 2 different types of Kratom for pain and relaxation and it didn't do much, tried 12.5 grams of a red strain in a day and 5 grams of a green one on another day

It felt like I'd drank coffee, that's it, then it wore off which was good as if I wanted to have the jitters I'd of just drank coffee lol

If you have any sort of opioid tolerance it's not going to do much of anything for you. The first few times I used it I got fucked up to the point of vomiting, but now I use it as basically an adjunct to caffeine when I need to do shit. Doesn't work for everyone and the people it does work for it doesn't last.
 
Strangely enough she sleeps like a stone lol. Maybe she doesn't dose too close to her bedtime and I've just never noticed. She claims red and gold make her feel nothing whatsoever. I do have a theory that she has a previous drug tolerance from back in the day that she won't talk about though. She knows an awful lot about downers/opioids for claiming to have never been into them lol.

hah well thats good to hear she has no problems sleeping. i suppose the green strain doesnt have much effect because shes taking such a low dose. As odd as this may sound, she kind of sounds like my boss at work lol Not that my boss takes kratom, but that she may have history of drug usage. Theres just something about her that gives me that vibe, its hard to explain. Anyways if your mom did use them in the past, Im glad shes off them now. They can cause some serious issues, relationship wise. My aunt takes some sort of opiates and benzos everyday and she pretty much disowned the whole family and flips out over the smallest things.
 
Yes I do, I'm back on mirtazapine nowbfir sleep, I tried 2 different types of Kratom for pain and relaxation and it didn't do much, tried 12.5 grams of a red strain in a day and 5 grams of a green one on another day

It felt like I'd drank coffee, that's it, then it wore off which was good as if I wanted to have the jitters I'd of just drank coffee lol

Its funny you mention mirtazepine because i was taking that for about 5 years, but recently got off of it and have not looked back. Mirtazepine itself did seem to help me sleep better, as its sedating in nature. Are you taking any other meds? The reason Im askings is because there are some meds that may interfere with how kratom interacts with the body. For instance atomoxetine(brand named:Straterra) has a powerful NMDA antagonist quality to it, which can block a good portion of kratoms effects. Also its worth mentioning that it can vary vastly in quality from kratom vendor to vendor. The first time i ever tried kratom was from a smoke shop and it came in capsules. At the time it seemed powerful, but after taking it for a little while and reading other peoples experiences of kratom, i began to wonder about the quality. I did some research online and found some reputable vendors that had much better prices and much higher quality products. Needless to say, i havent gone back to the smoke shop for their mediocre and overpriced kratom. If youre still interested i could make a good suggestion
 
actually nothing, decided not to take the xan

have been at work for a couple days

now looking for something 😁

in pain

oh i did smoke some rochee weed this morning 👍🏽
 
hah well thats good to hear she has no problems sleeping. i suppose the green strain doesnt have much effect because shes taking such a low dose. As odd as this may sound, she kind of sounds like my boss at work lol Not that my boss takes kratom, but that she may have history of drug usage. Theres just something about her that gives me that vibe, its hard to explain. Anyways if your mom did use them in the past, Im glad shes off them now. They can cause some serious issues, relationship wise. My aunt takes some sort of opiates and benzos everyday and she pretty much disowned the whole family and flips out over the smallest things.

Wow we must be related or something because MY aunt was also excommunicated from the family for decades long downer abuse. Not to mention the other few relatives who suffered from some kind of substance abuse. It's pretty big in my family, mainly alcoholism or heroin addiction.
 
Wow we must be related or something because MY aunt was also excommunicated from the family for decades long downer abuse. Not to mention the other few relatives who suffered from some kind of substance abuse. It's pretty big in my family, mainly alcoholism or heroin addiction.


Thats uncanny!! Only difference being was my Aunt seemed to want to leave the family behind. Thinking she was somehow superior and knew better then her own parents that raised her. It all started with her parents (my grandparents) taking their grand daughter too often to the park. Aunt was saying that the granddaughter was getting spoiled. So then when it came time for the aunt to take care of the baby she wid just sit around the house all day high on drugs and being negligent. Tbh I don't know the whole story, so I'm not sure I could explain it correctly even if I wanted to.

I'm sorry to hear about all the addiction in your family. It really makes growing up as an adolescent much more difficult and harmful. Addiction is strong in my family as well. Both my parents are alcoholics and have been drinking for as long as I can remember. They are what they like to call "functional alcoholics" which basically just means they can drink their alcohol and still pay the bills and be "successful" But if you ask me, they are anything but functional. They have close to no social lives, their marriage has been falling apart for years and yet they seem to think that things are under control. Anyways enough of the depressing talk lol I'm trying to have a good evening, just as I'm sure you are
 
I was tempted to buy some but I got put off it as read some trip reports and loads of people was being sent bunk or wrong chemicals like o-pce with the vendors pretending it's DCK etc, and apparently DCK messes up you're immune system and shit, go carefull on that stuff, wouldn't you prefer real K?
Unfortunately K itself recently has variable effects for me as some kind of permatolerance has finally caught up with me, and almost always the quantities needed to snort leave me with a clogged and irritated nose as well as uncomfortable bladder sensations in the day(s) after.

DCK on the other hand (possibly just due to it's high potency) seems to have far more consistent effects, requires snorting much less, lasts longer, and I actually find it to be more reliably euphoric than ketamine itself, and definitely with less of an acute feeling of bladder awareness or "gummed up" internal organs. Actually I find DCK closer to a true psychedelic than ketamine in many ways, have been dosing just a little in the evenings on and off the last week or so and I even find it gives some kind of afterglow at times... although, it is strange, sometimes it's like this afterglow is tinged with a more familiar scattered, slightly depressed feeling that I get from K, so that post-ACH weirdness is still there, to some extent.

Good DCK is hard to source for sure, there was a particularly bad batch from China a few years back that several members here reported fairly serious and lasting side effects from. And the immunosuppressant effects are definitely not a negligible concern, especially in these times of coronavirus, but very little is known about the actual magnitude of these effects, if there is indeed a reason for concern, so generally usage advice for this chemical is the same as that of any other grey market novel psychoactive with little to no human research - ie, proceed, if you must, with extreme caution - and I am trying to adhere to that and not dose huge amounts, not dose too frequently, etc. But it's just so rare I have the opportunity to use good DCK and what I was fortuitously able to snap up recently seems to be a far better quality synthesis than my previous experience (which i actually ended up flushing just under a gram of and really regretted it after even though I know it was probably for the best).


OT: Today, 150mg armodafinil, 4g kratom, coffee. Almost out of kratom and gonna probably abstain for a while after today after some real up/down yoyo effects from a few unexpected short but sharp withdrawals and generally inconsistent weirdness.

Hope everyone's day is starting out well!
 
Yeah I think I won't bother then, I did want to try some RC dissociatives though, maybe I'll try a different one, is 3 ho pcp a manic one? @Vastness

My morning fix was 2 small lines of ketamine I saved from yesterday now to wait 2 weeks till "I'm allowed" some K again, hmmm a way to get round it could be buy an RC dissociative and if my son catches me I can say "actually no I'm not on K I'm on 3 ho pcp" lol
 
bong hit of purple urkle
cigarette
coffee with one milk
popper (basically a bonghit of weed and a bit of tobacco in a differently shaped bowl)
15 mg flurazepam
50mg dexedrine [time release] - crushed and inhaled
2 egg omellette consisting of canadian cheddar tomatoes onions and chopped herbs + half a bagel
30mg dexedrine [time release] - crushed and inhaled
currently - more bongs and going to grab my next coffee soon
 
xanax for brachial pain
that gawd for dab wax too

shatter would be even better
water
 
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