What typically is in bad cocaine

[LSDiesel]

That’s right about when I started existing, I sure missed the hey day of coke but I would definitely say mdma / 2cb is way better but yeah there’s something special and nostalgic about good coke because it’s usually so fleeting yet memorable

 

[crazyhairman]

Up all night like that probably ephedrine. Or speed .

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

That's a very dumb answer. If it Is "good" cocaine, shouldnt it be a subjectively good experience? By this i mean, good high, smooth comedown, doesn't burn the nose, oily substance, etc. Why would rat Poison be included in a supposedly good experience? Good cocaine is just that, cocaine hydrochloride. Could be stepped with some additives that dont fk up the experience to increase bulk,risk overdose AND ultimately the dealers pockets. But should be just that, cocaine.

mannitol/baby laxitive AT BEST -- through the years I have seen coke cut with fent, meth, methylphenidate, even POWDERED GLASS. How professional is the person you cop from -- as a proper "dealer" should at least know to use inactive ingredient as the cut.

Much rather have 60% purity 40% inactive than 85% purity 15% hodgepodge of stims and numbing agents.

*edit* Has autotripper been around lately? I worry for him being or feelin that he was targeted. (srry way off topic)

 

[just a coker 01]

Anybody can cut cocaine up with any white powder, or boric acid flakes to look like its mother of pearl or fishscale or ivory flake, from chalk to clothes washing powder, iocaine, caffine powder, amphetamine, also to my knowledege some people add human or bull or horse sperm to the cocaine usually dried sperm and usully only to users/customers who like and want it in their powder for the scent and taste, if you purchase cocaine from some horse racing stables in the u.k. the cocaine has dried horse sperm mixed in it for sometype of flavour or scent espically if it is consumed in an orgy of sex as well as drugs, as a fetish!

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

^Ppl be complaining they blow doesn't smell/taste like semen (rich ppl are so strange)? lol I remember a girl drawing up some really really shitty coke and saying it looked like cum and being like that is a bad thing forsure! should look the same as the water you put in!

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Fucking hell am pretty sure / seriously hoping there's no horse cum-cutting going on - someone's having a laugh at someone's expense there

A lot of coke cuts are just myths. Speed for example. I had a keen interest for many years in observing coke lab results and in the thousands I have seen, I have only ever noticed ONE with an amphet cut. It just doesn't happen

It's usually benign 'non-active' cuts. Mannitol, Boric Acid etc

Of course some cunts will occasionally try a research chem type stim to add the 'umph' that people have been conditioned into thinking cocaine presents and the other 'caines which increase numbing also find their way in too. Phenacetin is another shit cut, rarely seen nowadays though.

Levamisole, that was areal issue for a few years but (am outta the loop a bit now) is on the decrease? Some people (including a mate of mine) are very allergic to it, and it's just very nasty shit in general. It's also very difficult to 'wash' it out unlike some other common cuts. Levamisole was often mixed in at/close to source and is more prevalent in coke from Colombia than from the other producer countries

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

^ I got (well actually my friend but me my default lol) a batch with meth in it and this was like 15-20 yrs ago. Know damn well .5 of cocaine didn't keep me awake for 2 nights! Also have seen powdered glass first hand --- dude "Why wont this crush completely I keep getting this nosebleeds -- can I have a line "Sure" throw it in some water "HEEYY TF" watch the glass sediments fall to the bottom.

Now I will also say I believe we were still in HS both of these times so the odds of "Fuck em what are they gunna do" are fairly high and I'm not saying this is a common practice. I have seen it though.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

^ I got (well actually my friend but me my default lol) a batch with meth in it and this was like 15-20 yrs ago. Know damn well .5 of cocaine didn't keep me awake for 2 nights! Also have seen powdered glass first hand --- dude "Why wont this crush completely I keep getting this nosebleeds -- can I have a line "Sure" throw it in some water "HEEYY TF" watch the glass sediments fall to the bottom.

Now I will also say I believe we were still in HS both of these times so the odds of "Fuck em what are they gunna do" are fairly high and I'm not saying this is a common practice. I have seen it though.

Oh yeah, I'm sure there are occasions when dumb shit happens, this is humanity afterall! Some people do believe that 'speed' is a common coke cut though and it definitely is not - I mean it's totally obvious after a couple of hours eh, as you yourself know! And it feels fuck all like coke too

I mean, I remember being part of a harm reduction exercise at a festival some years back now where people were getting their drugs tested onsite. Will never forget one girl handing over what she thought was an ecstasy tablet only to discover (to the amazement of all) that her pill was, in fact, concrete! I think it may have made the national news iirc.

Also someone on the very outer fringes of our circle years ago accidentally bought 28 grams of creatine and benzocaine, the dumbass didn't even notice until he had a visit from an extremely angry customer - he was a bastard who used to thoroughly cut drugs to sell though so my sympathy was limited (absent actually). Scum, imo.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

to my knowledege some people add human or bull or horse sperm to the cocaine usually dried sperm and usully only to users/customers who like and want it in their powder for the scent and taste, if you purchase cocaine from some horse racing stables in the u.k. the cocaine has dried horse sperm mixed in it for sometype of flavour or scent espically if it is consumed in an orgy of sex as well as drugs, as a fetish!

You speak with great authority. How did you come about this knowledge may I enquire? I have never in my born years heard of anyone scoring hard drugs from a horse riding stable, but then again maybe it's just the company I keep, dunno

Are you speaking from experience here? Are horse-racing stables hotbeds of cocaine/animal cum abuse? I mean it's one hell of a claim! I know truth can be stranger than fiction but this is a real wild one isn't it. Is the effect different if it is Bull or Horse cum? I can just see a disgruntled customer returning "Hey bitch, I asked for the Horse-cum batch and you baited and switched me to this Bull-cum shit"

I wonder if testing labs test for animal semen? We should tell them this stuff really.

 

[chippermonk]

Anybody can cut cocaine up with any white powder, or boric acid flakes to look like its mother of pearl or fishscale or ivory flake, from chalk to clothes washing powder, iocaine, caffine powder, amphetamine, also to my knowledege some people add human or bull or horse sperm to the cocaine usually dried sperm and usully only to users/customers who like and want it in their powder for the scent and taste, if you purchase cocaine from some horse racing stables in the u.k. the cocaine has dried horse sperm mixed in it for sometype of flavour or scent espically if it is consumed in an orgy of sex as well as drugs, as a fetish!

Is that how someone can get their start in the cocaine business? As a horse sperm milker? Maybe with effort and determination work your way up to a dryer and cutter? Is that how Tony Montana made his move?

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Is that how someone can get their start in the cocaine business? As a horse sperm milker? Maybe with effort and determination work your way up to a dryer and cutter? Is that how Tony Montana made his move?

I don't think any respectable stallion is gonna let some druggy get a hold of his shlong

I think they probably dress up as a really fit mare and go about it that way, much more civilised. hmmm, then again, knowing the English upper classes any damn thing could be happening

 

[BadBoy377]

Oh my days, I've heard it all now. Coke is made from horny horse cum? Unicorn cum coke? Okey doke...

Quit horsing around.

 

[Didgital]

A lot of coke cuts are just myths. Speed for example. I had a keen interest for many years in observing coke lab results and in the thousands I have seen, I have only ever noticed ONE with an amphet cut. It just doesn't happen

As someone who works at a lab with GC/MS, HPLC, and now even a polarimeter, this is flat out wrong. Is it as common as people think? Probably not.

If my roommate had only waited a few days for the results of his sample he submitted, he would have known there was methamphetamine in his coke BEFORE violating his probation via a dirty piss test (meth). My roommate does not knowingly do meth, but he loves his cocaine. He always kinda blamed me, but I can't control how quickly these tests get performed. Theres usually a line.

If you really want I could prolly scour past test results and provide them, but in short I'd say out of a few hundred tests over the past 2 years, we've detected some sort of amphetamine I'd say prolly close to 10 times...

What surprises me, I've detected Leviamisole I think only twice in that same time period. There probably was a long chunk of time that leviamisole was in most cocaine in the US. I think that has changed though. From what I can see, the cocaine has gotten purer and purer and purer. It gets stepped on AFTER arriving in the US, whereas before, according to the DEA, they were seizing imported cocaine that already had leviamisole from the source countries. In a lot of these latin american countries, leviamisole is sold on the bus as a dewormer, so there is zero control down there on that substance.

Most tests I run, I see Cocaine, and then benzoyl ecgonidine methyl ester which i believe is likely an artifact due to GC analysis, and usually thats it. Though we commonly detect other cocaine alkaloids (tropacocaine, ecgonidine) in small concentrations, and then the other common caines (procaine, lidocaine primarily). We sometimes see metabolites which probably shouldn't be there (norcocaine) and aren't sure why.

Here was a wild surprise. Once someone gave me 4 samples to test, indicating that one of them was the best. After analytics we found that was actually the lowest purity of the 4 samples, however it contained most of the other natural coca alkaloids that are seen. It was considered warmer, smoother, more euphoric.

EDIT* We commonly see solvents like Decane, or other high boiling point solvents found in gasoline. I would say 99% of the cocaine we've tested, has residual solvents, sometimes totalling multiple % of the entire sample. I believe diethyl ether is the choice solvent (it's highly restricted in these countries) because it evaporates so easily that the end product is cleaner and stronger by weight.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

As someone who works at a lab with GC/MS, HPLC, and now even a polarimeter, this is flat out wrong. Is it as common as people think? Probably not.

If my roommate had only waited a few days for the results of his sample he submitted, he would have known there was methamphetamine in his coke BEFORE violating his probation via a dirty piss test (meth). My roommate does not knowingly do meth, but he loves his cocaine. He always kinda blamed me, but I can't control how quickly these tests get performed. Theres usually a line.

If you really want I could prolly scour past test results and provide them, but in short I'd say out of a few hundred tests over the past 2 years, we've detected some sort of amphetamine I'd say prolly close to 10 times...

What surprises me, I've detected Leviamisole I think only twice in that same time period. There probably was a long chunk of time that leviamisole was in most cocaine in the US. I think that has changed though. From what I can see, the cocaine has gotten purer and purer and purer. It gets stepped on AFTER arriving in the US, whereas before, according to the DEA, they were seizing imported cocaine that already had leviamisole from the source countries. In a lot of these latin american countries, leviamisole is sold on the bus as a dewormer, so there is zero control down there on that substance.

Most tests I run, I see Cocaine, and then benzoyl ecgonidine methyl ester which i believe is likely an artifact due to GC analysis, and usually thats it. Though we commonly detect other cocaine alkaloids (tropacocaine, ecgonidine) in small concentrations, and then the other common caines (procaine, lidocaine primarily). We sometimes see metabolites which probably shouldn't be there (norcocaine) and aren't sure why.

Here was a wild surprise. Once someone gave me 4 samples to test, indicating that one of them was the best. After analytics we found that was actually the lowest purity of the 4 samples, however it contained most of the other natural coca alkaloids that are seen. It was considered warmer, smoother, more euphoric.

EDIT* We commonly see solvents like Decane, or other high boiling point solvents found in gasoline. I would say 99% of the cocaine we've tested, has residual solvents, sometimes totalling multiple % of the entire sample. I believe diethyl ether is the choice solvent (it's highly restricted in these countries) because it evaporates so easily that the end product is cleaner and stronger by weight.

I'll take your word for it mate

All I can say, having not worked in a lab but, as stated, having read 1000's of labtest results over decades, is that I have seen a labtest result list amphetamine as a coke cut on only one single occasion. I also don't know anyone personally who ever suspected an amphetamine cut in their coke, and I've definitely never had coke with an amphet cut either (I'd definitely notice)

Must have seen a few hundred results contain levamisole though and yeah, thought to be added in source country (primarily Colombia). Seems to be on the wane thesedays though thankfully

I could imagine some kid, or some knobhead putting a bit of speed in to try and fool his mates perhaps, but can't imagine anyone even slightly higher up the chain doing it. How could anyone take coke and not notice there was amphetamine in it!

 

[Didgital]

I'll take your word for it mate

All I can say, having not worked in a lab but, as stated, having read 1000's of labtest results over decades, is that I have seen a labtest result list amphetamine as a coke cut on only one single occasion. I also don't know anyone personally who ever suspected an amphetamine cut in their coke, and I've definitely never had coke with an amphet cut either (I'd definitely notice)

Must have seen a few hundred results contain levamisole though and yeah, thought to be added in source country (primarily Colombia). Seems to be on the wane thesedays though thankfully

I could imagine some kid, or some knobhead putting a bit of speed in to try and fool his mates perhaps, but can't imagine anyone even slightly higher up the chain doing it. How could anyone take coke and not notice there was amphetamine in it!

I will admit when you check drugsdata.org, that while it pulls up several examples of amphetamines found with cocaine, it seems most of the times, the intended product was really a opiate speedball, though there are samples with cocaine and meth sold as cocaine or crack.

https://www.drugsdata.org/search.php?search_field=&name=&field_test=&substance1=39&substance2=94&s=&sample_id=&color=&colorexact=0&city=&source=&m1=&y1=&m2=&y2=&state=&country=&sold_as_ecstasy=both&on_hold=both&sort=DatePublishedU&sortad=desc

I do know that cocaine FREQUENTLY reagent tests orange or red, but i suspect the Marquis reagent is reacting with some inactive cut. The people that we test for, are almost higher up the food chain either buyers or sellers. Not many consumers are going to spend $80 for a test for a $80 gram of cocaine that will be gone in a night.

Another thing I can say is truly pure cocaine essentially has no smell.... Don't believe me? Just take your really good cocaine, dissolve it in some water, cover it with a coffee filter and come back to it a week or two later after all liquid has evaporated. When the cocaine is pressed into kilos, any residual solvent doesnt want to evaporate out of such a tight matrix of molecules. But if you dissolve the solid in water, the lower boiling solvents (relative to water) can wiggle their way out of the fluid matrix much more easily.

 

[Didgital]

I could imagine some kid, or some knobhead putting a bit of speed in to try and fool his mates perhaps

You're probably right that it happens much more on the lower ends of distribution.

But, Pre-pandemic era Methamphetamine could be found in most western US states for as little as $20/g (if im breaking rules I'm sorry, that was a historical figure afaik) You're definitely going to have knobheads that will totally try and fool the more naive consumers by cutting their expensive and relatively impotent drug with a cheaper stronger one. Not everyone knows the difference between the feels of each drug, especially when they combined. It is certainly more obvious to experienced cocaine users.