Opioids What to do w/ Fentanyl-containing Fake OC's ?

[knidsrok]

Ok, so, I'm pretty sure I've ended up with some of those fake OC 80s with fentanyl in them instead.

Well, the fake bit is pretty obvious -- the blue/green color is a bit off, the pills are dyed throughout, not white in the middle, and not only is there no coating, but the pills are a bit powdery.

They look a lot like the fakes I've read about that have fentanyl in them. They are quite bitter, and have at once a strong numbing effect on the tongue and mouth as well as a mild peppery burn.

My questions are a) is there any way to confirm the presence of fentanyl in these pills and b) if there is, indeed, fentanyl in them... what can I do with it? What would be the best way to extract and administer it?

 

[jamesBrown]

My first piece of advice to you is to NOT take those pills. From what you described, its easy for even me to tell that those pills came from a very shady place and more than likely contain chemicals/inactives that you have no idea are there. I also doubt there is fentanyl in the pills for several reasons. One of the main reasons being that fentanyl is much more expensie by weight than oxy is, so there would have to be a very TINY amount of fentanyl in these "pills" to make them worth making and then selling......such a tiny amount that it would be worthless to try to get high off of it....or atleast not worth the risk of ingesting unknown chemicals/drugs.

Also....there probably is a way to tell if there actually is fentanyl in those pills but it probably is a complicated chemical procedure that must be performed in a proper lab. Nothing you can do at home will be able to positively identify fentanyl or any other opiate/opiod possibly contained within those pills.

My best advice to you would be to try to get your money back for the pills you purchased. If that doesnt work i would throw them away, as to not put you at risk of selling potentially dangerous "home-made" pills to somebody else. If a guy dies or overdoses as a result of taking those pills, you do not want to be the one who sold them to him.

*And even if you were somehow able to positively identify the presence of fentanyl inside those pills, there still would be no guaranteed healthy/effective way of extracting the fentanyl out for consumption....this is because you do not know what other inactives are inside the pill and for example....if you tried dissolving it in water to dissolve the fentanyl(water soluble), you have no way of knowing what other chemicals in the pill were water soluble and got dissolved along with the fentanyl. Long story short.....don't take the pills.*

 

[BaybeX]

a) Don't listen to jamesBrown.
b) Yes, they most likely have Fentanyl, 1.5mg if I remember correctly. If you want to dose this, I would insufflate. First, see the Narcotic Dosage Converter to see how much Fent = the amount of Oxy you currently need to get high. I'd say if you could do a whole 80, start with a quarter and work your way up..

 

[MAJ.Pain]

lol BaybeX your fucked up. why you would ever tell this dude there is 1.5mg of fent in the tab is nutz. unless your the one who made the tabs.. and even if.. WHAT u saying? u got a lab with the gear and knowhow to make those?!!?

fuck this baybex trying to get you killed.
talked out the ass.. unless they made the pills.. if baybex really knows about YOUR tabs, then they claim to have made them.. otherwise shut the fucked up baybex

my 2 cents: don't take them, or risk your life , frankly i care very little i posted cause baybex is totally fucked up in this case

 

[knidsrok]

so, after further googling around, I began to doubt that the fakes I've got are the fentanyl-containing ones, as apparently these haven't been around for a few years.

Also, I'm pretty sure there're no opiates in them whatsoever. After reading the DEA reports on what similar fake OC tabs contained -- e.g. codeine, dxm, various benzos, apap, chlorpheniramine, melatonin, -- I figured whatever shit the pill's got in it, I've done worse, and I decided to give it a go. I decided against swallowing the pill, on the off chance it did have fentanyl in it, which has a low oral bioavailability. I ruled out sniffing it, because I could tell just by licking a bit of the powder that it would sting like a mother. And I'm certainly not slamming a mystery substance. So I mixed it in water and plugged it up me bum.

There was an almost immediate rush-like sensation -- though more like a popper rush than a dope rush, and a brief feeling of not unpleasant wooziness. Nothing like oxycontin's steady rising surge of warm fuzzies. But the reason I'm fairly sure there aren't opiates in it is that it has in no way had their characteristic affect on digestive motility, if you know what I'm saying.

I wonder what I just took?

 

[wakeborder556]

The do anything to get fucked up mentality is pathetic

 

[theotherside]

^^^But the want/need to escape reality is in our DNA

 

[Supeudol]

Chew the fucker up if it has fentanyl in it! You lucky bastard! If I ever came across that shit I'd be in my my glory chewing it up and shitting my pants at the same time, popping a woody.

 

[wakeborder556]

^^^But the want/need to escape reality is in our DNA

Not to a self-destructive degree.

 

[lowrider6967]

im not sure if im in the right place 4 this Q,but here goes.whats the diff between oxys and oxycodone hcl,and if none y the chase for oxys y not try harder 4 the oxycodone?

 

[blackjesus]

if you have to ask what to do with these pills then you prob shouldnt be using them. give them to a junkie and make him happy.

 

[jamesBrown]

a) Don't listen to jamesBrown.
b) Yes, they most likely have Fentanyl, 1.5mg if I remember correctly. If you want to dose this, I would insufflate. First, see the Narcotic Dosage Converter to see how much Fent = the amount of Oxy you currently need to get high. I'd say if you could do a whole 80, start with a quarter and work your way up..

This is a website for harm reduction. Please do not tell posters to ingest substances unkown to them or you. There is no way you or he can tell what is inside thos pills just by looking at them.

And look....."Also, I'm pretty sure there're no opiates in them whatsoever."-OP

I guess you were wrong....no opiates. I hope whatever he did take wasn't harmful to him. If it were fentanyl he definitely would know it.

So, before you start telling posters to go ahead and pop a mystery pill or "ignore jamesbrown".....think about what your saying, and if it really is in the interest of helping somebody.....other than helping you look like you know better than other posters. Obviously you were mistaken about the identity of the pill. Unfortunately you made yourself look like a rude know-it-all in the process.

But this was my whole point from the beginning.....there is no way you can identify what the OP was describing in his post.....therefore, do not tell him you DO know what is in the pills, and also, try to be a little more respectiful to other posters like myself.

 

[brutus]

There was an almost immediate rush-like sensation -- though more like a popper rush than a dope rush, and a brief feeling of not unpleasant wooziness. Nothing like oxycontin's steady rising surge of warm fuzzies.

I wonder what I just took?

Fentanyl is different than the vast majority of opiates IME. It is a short lived high, regardless of ROA, I've tried every ROA except plugging though.

 

[drugssexandmusic]

I wouldn't take them because people have OD and died from them same as the dick who thought it would be a good idea to spike Heroin with Fen, "cheese" or whatever it was called.
Don't those fake Oxy 80's come from Mexico any ways.

 

[BaybeX]

Whoa, jamesBrown lemme show you how 'totally nutz I am'..
This is from the DEA Micrograms, showing that the OCs that this person may have DO CONTAIN 1.5mgs of FENTANYL.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/mg0406/mg0406.html
(Please scroll down to the middle of the page to see pictures and descriptions of these pills.)

From Microgram: These appeared to be distinctly undersized mimics of legitimate Oxycontin® tablets (which contain 80 milligrams of oxycodone; see Photos 13 and 14); however, analysis by GC, GC/MS, and IR indicated that these tablets actually contained 1.5 mg of fentanyl hydrochloride.

If your pills look like the ones listed on this microgram, then I would assume they do contain fent.

So, no I didn't just come up with a god damn number trying to sound cool or something. I have evidence to back up what I say. I'm not just throwing shit out there. The majority of your fucking posts have been filled with misinformation and bullshit.

I've been around for long enough that people trust my posts as they've seen that they are actually filled with CORRECT information. I haven't been online here ONCE in the past month that you hven't also been online trying to up your post count. So before you go running your mouth on how my posts are promoting harm, take a look back at my previous posts. Thanks.

 

[ATLL765]

Everybody on this thread is going nutty. No one here can possibly even take an educated guess as to what could be in the pills the OP has, so for anyone to speculate, it's just that, speculation, and uninformed speculation at that.

Baybex-That DEA bulletin about the fake OC80s with fentanyl in them is from over 4 years ago. To even insinuate that you're sure that is what the OP has is ridiculous and just dangerous. For the sake of harm reduction, the only SAFE thing to do is to not take them. For anyone here to suggest otherwise, is advice given for the sake of spending your money better at best. What if these pills had fentanyl in them, but are not the fakes found in '06, but instead new ones containing a larger amount of fentanyl in them? No one here really has any idea, there isn't even a picture posted so anyone can search the web for an educated guess. If these had a larger amount of fentanyl in them, the OP could have died. I don't think you or anyone here wants that on their conscience. So unless you enjoy giving out uninformed, speculative guesses that could result in the death of the OP, no matter how unlikely that result may be, everyone here needs to shut up with their guesses as to what's in these pills.

Bottom line is if we're talking harm reduction, which is what I joined this site for, all advice to the OP should be either do not take them, or send a sample to a lab to find out what exactly is in it, and I don't think the latter is the option anyone would take. Everyone here needs to take a step back, calm down, and think about the possible and very serious repercussions of speculating on what is in a pill that none of you have seen or even gotten an accurate description of.

 

[knidsrok]

Many apologies. I had no intent of starting any sort of internecine squabble.

What other information may I provide you with?

Here's a picture:

They were sent from Florida. They are the same color all the way through, they are fairly crumbly + powdery pills, completely unlike real OC's. There's no coating. The color rubs off on your fingers.

They have a seriously bitter and metallic taste that hangs around for a while. They also immediately have a strong numbing effect on one's tongue and mouth, but where they don't numb you, you feel a slight peppery sting. They are only partially soluble in water.

As I said earlier, when plugged, they provided an almost immediate rush sensation, though more like a popper or inhalant than an opiate or cocaine. It was accompanied by a little mild elation and/or pleasant wooziness. Both effects were short lived, and gave way to a mental fogginess, but without any real sedation. They did not make me feel at all "sleepy," but they also didn't prevent sleep, and may have contributed to vidid dreaming.

Today, I've got manageable but annoying next-day fogginess, making me suspect some sort of ingredient with anticholinergic effect.

If there's anything else you want to know about the pills, feel free to ask. I'm not planning on taking any more of them, but I'd be happy to run any sort of kitchen chemistry test on them, in the interest of "science."

Basically, the way I see it, I'd like to get some enjoyment out of them one way or another, and since they're not actually fun to ingest, I'll have to settle on the fun of trying to figure the little fuckers out.

(Which would be a lot easier if the DEA was still publishing the contents of fake pills in their Microgram reports. )

 

[ATLL765]

Those do look like the ones the DEA seized with fent in them, but it's extremely unlikely that you'd end up with pills that were manufactured 4-5 years ago haha. No matter how much info you give us, no one will be able to tell you with any certainty what is really in those pills. With that pic and other info, some of us may have some good guesses, but nothing more than that. I would toss 'em unless you're willing to take the risk of putting an entirely unknown substance in your body at the risk of a bad reaction, allergic reaction, and possibly even death. Be very careful with these since they are a complete mystery to you.

 

[robatussin]

you can look up the DEA microgram i believe the lab was busted and they were making MDA pills with a very low dose mda to fool a test kit but the main ingredient is fentanyl, and the fake green oc 80s probably did not contain any mda as no one usually ez-tests for opiates. By the way I thought the average coming from various reports but if you want to test one and make sure, send me a pm and I will point you in the right direction for a test.

I was interested in these pills because it was a bold endevor on the pill pressers part to get the message across as to the feeling by pressing a pretty obious fake substitution. i have seen white no coating oc/80s that had codiene and some other thing not worth jack shit compared to those.

 

[BlueberryfishY]

You guys should see the fake Roxi M 30's that are going around here in south FL, they look the same as the box M 30mg's but if you look at them close under a light you will see the other side that says 30 looks cheaply imprinted.

a friend of mine got some and we noticed right away, he got a pill testing kit and they came up positive for methamphetamine/MDMA.

watch out for these you wont believe it til you see it.