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Stimulants what the hell happened ? can some one tell me please

MindTricks

MindTricks

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first sorry for my english i hope it all makes sense

I took some speed at about 6-7 p.m It was cheap UK street speed that was dried out from its wet paste form ( approx 2-2.5gs ) i been snorting lines till about 12 a.m thats when i had my last one. I stayed up till about 6 a.m then went to bed trying to get some sleep ( which didn't happen ) at about 9 a.m i had a very tiny key of ketamine which i didnt rly enjoy then 3 hours later at about 12 p.m i decided to take same tiny key of ket again which i enjoyed this time. Then i went to be trying to get some sleep, 3 hours later i finally started to feel tried and falling a sleep then all of the sudden i get this huge speed rush it felt like i just snorted a huge line of it.... my whole organs started vibrating my eye leads started to shake like mad my heart started beating way too fast and hard i started to freak out big time was close of calling an ambulance. Then decided to chill and give it some time see if i feel better, so after lying in recover position freaking out for about 2-3 hours i stared to calm down then all of the sudden same rush again ! a little bit weaker tho ( note its been about 10+ hours since my last line of speed and 5+ hours since ket ) that its i was going to call ambulance but some one got home and calmed me down. Then i kept getting same rushes through the rest of the eve every 1-2 hours and each of them was weaker and weaker. I managed to get some sleep now and feeling much better. Just light headed
I have done exact same speed and ket 4 days before and didnt had any problems. I did have some vallium with me tho

I am rly fucking confused... in my experience with drugs if you coming down you come down you dont just start tripping or rushing all of the sudden 10 hours later....

has any one experienced anything like this ? maybe there was something else in my speed or ket ?
 
MindTricks said:
first sorry for my english i hope it all makes sense

I took some speed at about 6-7 p.m It was cheap UK street speed that was dried out from its wet paste form ( approx 2-2.5gs ) i been snorting lines till about 12 a.m thats when i had my last one. I stayed up till about 6 a.m then went to bed trying to get some sleep ( which didn't happen ) at about 9 a.m i had a very tiny key of ketamine which i didnt rly enjoy then 3 hours later at about 12 p.m i decided to take same tiny key of ket again which i enjoyed this time. Then i went to be trying to get some sleep, 3 hours later i finally started to feel tried and falling a sleep then all of the sudden i get this huge speed rush it felt like i just snorted a huge line of it.... my whole organs started vibrating my eye leads started to shake like mad my heart started beating way too fast and hard i started to freak out big time was close of calling an ambulance. Then decided to chill and give it some time see if i feel better, so after lying in recover position freaking out for about 2-3 hours i stared to calm down then all of the sudden same rush again ! a little bit weaker tho ( note its been about 10+ hours since my last line of speed and 5+ hours since ket ) that its i was going to call ambulance but some one got home and calmed me down. Then i kept getting same rushes through the rest of the eve every 1-2 hours and each of them was weaker and weaker. I managed to get some sleep now and feeling much better. Just light headed
I have done exact same speed and ket 4 days before and didnt had any problems. I did have some vallium with me tho

I am rly fucking confused... in my experience with drugs if you coming down you come down you dont just start tripping or rushing all of the sudden 10 hours later....

has any one experienced anything like this ? maybe there was something else in my speed or ket ?
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If your taking Amphetamine. I would suggest you only take Amphetamine ! Do not mix it with anything only Alcohol and a little bit of weed you never know how Amphetamine reacts in Combination with other compounds its known that Amphetamine increases blood pressure, heart rate etc if you mix it with other things that do the same effects are disastorous . I feel the same way though not nearly as intense as what you felt. The next day after an amphetamine binge or amphetamine usage. I feel more anxious, sometimes I would get a panic attack or two as well, I would feel more tired, down, more hungry, I would be slightly depressed and my mood would be down and it interferes with my Sleep, Concentration is lower as well.
The high on my Amphetamine Sulphate is very Euphoric though and somewhat stimulating physically mentally , it truly depends on my source and where I get it. The crashes are shitty on Amphetamines and yea I get those sensations as well where the next day after usage my heart would go tachycardia and beat fast for no reason. I got Tachycardia and paranoia on Marijuana too and Sometimes I would think the aftereffects on Cannabis can be worse for a person it depends on the individual.
 
Were you snorting the speed? If so, you probably just had a pocket stuck for a while that dropped down and got you high.
 
Crashing said:
Were you snorting the speed? If so, you probably just had a pocket stuck for a while that dropped down and got you high.
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yes i was..


rly....? wow i was thinking same thing but then i though "nah thats not possible" how is it even possible ? i even took a shower and pored some water down my nose lol just incase..
 
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MindTricks said:
I am rly fucking confused... in my experience with drugs if you coming down you come down you dont just start tripping or rushing all of the sudden 10 hours later....
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Thats where you are wrong. I am sure this is not medically correct but the comedown, at least for me, feels like all of sudden the amps wear off and the SNS adrenaline panic anxiety kicks in, as if if the amps somehow masked this bit.

I will feel the last hour or two of the amps wear off and I will get lazy and tired and it goes in that direction and then suddenly it flips into insanity just like that.

Your description sounds exactly like my experience.

It feels like you are dying. Everything that could seem scary or going wrong will, like the stuff you mentioned. Thats SNS panic for you.
 
blight12 said:
Thats where you are wrong. I am sure this is not medically correct but the comedown, at least for me, feels like all of sudden the amps wear off and the SNS adrenaline panic anxiety kicks in, as if if the amps somehow masked this bit.

I will feel the last hour or two of the amps wear off and I will get lazy and tired and it goes in that direction and then suddenly it flips into insanity just like that.

Your description sounds exactly like my experience.

It feels like you are dying. Everything that could seem scary or going wrong will, like the stuff you mentioned. Thats SNS panic for you.
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i have taken amph in much bigger amounts then this... hundreds times and i have never experienced anything like this.

It just made no sense to me at all thats what made it even more scary, 12+ hours passed and i get this huge speed rushes like i just snorted a huge line of this stuff again
 
Ahh ok. 12 hours or so since the last line though indicates the time when the drug is wearing off, the good bits at least, and the SNS shit takes over as you go into the comedown.

Comedowns can be different for everybody. What is yours normally like to compare?

For me I must say what you describe is exactly like my norm. I get rushes of the adernaline stimulation and panic as if the drug has reactivated somehow.

These rushes are they the tingly prickly adrenaline stimulation or do they actually include the good euphoria effects as well? That would be odd.

Oh and I highly doubt some sack of the drug got stuck in your nose somehow and came loose later. If so then you got bigger problems.
 
Speed stuck in your nose? Happens! Especially if it was cut with something that might cause it to gunk up in there, a quick heavy sniff and bang your off. Happens when people snort ecstasy aswell, why they do it meh.

But yeah even with my prescribed amp for ADHD, after the effects wear off you'll be surprised how much is actually still in your system however it wont be causing any dopaminergic feelings, what you will get is the peripheral noradrenergic side effects and that includes panic attacks (varies person to person, usage/dose etc), tachycardia, insomnia etc.
 
^^ Ok so those SNS effects do last a bit longer then the dopamine effect. Any idea how much longer?
 
Depending on how much you take, how long youve been on it for, depending on the persons metabolism and food intake/lackof food, I cant give you an exact estimate but expect noradrenergic side effects to continue for no less than a few hours once the dopamine/high feelings have gone obviously for a binge

Amphetamine partly metabolises into a-methly-tyramine which like amphetamine is noradrenergic, however has no dopamine action and this contributes to noradrenergic sides.
 
Something else you might wanna know for the future aswell once the good effects are gone, get something acidic into you! Amphetamine is excreted through urine faster when it is acidic. Keep in mind however some things that seem acidic may actually alkalise your urine and have the reverse effect.
 
Have not heard this one, that could be useful thanks. Fortunately I take a Seroquel and avoid the comedown. Works great. After experiencing it once, which is what i shared above, i never want to do that again. If i was not familiar with panic attacks, i would have thought i was dying and gone to ER.

So since the SNS stimulation stacks up since it lasts longer then the high, ultimately building up and resulting in VasoC later in the binge, I guess there is no way to avoid the VasoC symptoms and pain at all, no mater what i try, besides hitting the drink? It really annoys me. *sigh*.

Anyways this finally helps to answer my long outstanding question on the topic. Thanks.
 
thx for your responses guys :) at list i got a better picture on what happened to me that night... i have a had a lot of freak outs due to taking too much drugs before, specially when i was addicted to mkat but nothing like this! this was the worst of them all. I am just glad to be alive and not being taken to the hospital. It was a good wake up call for me i guess... gonna stop everything for now.
 
^ Glad to see this was a minor wake up call for you. Remember that everyone always says that they aren't going to do something again after something bad happens, but it seems like we always do.
 
wiggi said:
^ Glad to see this was a minor wake up call for you. Remember that everyone always says that they aren't going to do something again after something bad happens, but it seems like we always do.
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yup i know... been there done that haha

This time i made a promise to some one who helped me to go through this bad freak out experience. Guilt is something i find hard to live with... i hope it will help me to go through it

peace
 
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