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Did you ever write reports? I'd love to hear more about it, because there really aren't many first hand accounts.

Honestly surprised I've not encountered it yet, though there was an attempt many years ago. It should follow the same exact synthetic pathway as safrole to MDA, but using myrististin correct?
In principle yes, but fractionation isn't easy and many essential oil suppliers don't have analysis certificates of their oils. It is possible to make myristicinaldehyde from scratch, but again, the chemistry is more tricky than it seems on first glance.
 
Did you ever write reports? I'd love to hear more about it, because there really aren't many first hand accounts.

Honestly surprised I've not encountered it yet, though there was an attempt many years ago. It should follow the same exact synthetic pathway as safrole to MDA, but using myrististin correct?
Yeah, but myristicin is nowhere near as plentiful and the main source (oil of nutmeg or mace) comes combined with safrole. Plenty of plans produce safrole in amounts and purity that mean you don't have to do a fractional steam distillation, to get a purity that's suitable for synthesis use. As well as MMDA, one I wished I'd had a cance to try is the phenethylamine akin to mescaline. 300mg and you get something akin to entactogenic mescaline (sounds nice doesn't it). MMDA-2 also sounds really interesting, but I think that'll remain a pipe dream (even though it has the magical 2,4,5 substitution pattern).
 
I would like a 2C-E, 2C-D, 2C-T.
Mescaline for sure.
some of the furan substituted dragonflys
MAPB or something like it.
2C-D and 2C-T are very easy to cope with, essentially mild but quite lovely. There's enough available on mescaline, but if you want a deep & meaningful trip, 2-CE is the one. Recommended dose is 10-12mg, because 20mg is unbelievable with it's depth. 2C-P also has that property, but a 20 hour trip of that intensity leave you completely drained and you end up wishing the trip was over long before it is. 2-CT has almost the same MAOI inhibitor activity as DOT/aleph 1, so you have to be careful that you don't have anything with catchecol (dopamine or noradrenaline) activity.
 
Yeah, but myristicin is nowhere near as plentiful and the main source (oil of nutmeg or mace) comes combined with safrole. Plenty of plans produce safrole in amounts and purity that mean you don't have to do a fractional steam distillation, to get a purity that's suitable for synthesis use. As well as MMDA, one I wished I'd had a cance to try is the phenethylamine akin to mescaline. 300mg and you get something akin to entactogenic mescaline (sounds nice doesn't it). MMDA-2 also sounds really interesting, but I think that'll remain a pipe dream (even though it has the magical 2,4,5 substitution pattern).

"There was absolutely no reason to suspect that the simple rearrangement of the methoxy groups of TMA from the classic 3,4,5-positions to this new, 2,4,5-orientation, would dramatically increase potency like this. Mescaline, 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine, is an extraordinary compound, but it is not particularly potent, requiring hundreds of milligrams for a trip. And going from its 3,4,5-pattern to the 2,4,5-pattern of [TMPEA] makes the compound even less potent."

Shulgin A. PiHKAL. 1990. Part 2: #158 TMA-2, EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY

 
but fractionation isn't easy and many essential oil suppliers don't have analysis certificates of their oils
Damn you're right. I just checked my college day essential oil supplier and their COAs these days seem very lacking. They used to have the primary components listed in %s. Now they just have optical rotation and refractive index.

I do want to say in certain parts of the Midwest, wild parsnip is invasive and in pretty much full bloom by mid to late May. It follows freeways and railways (until they spray). What I always liked about parsnips is they about the same as pulling a carrot. Harvesting sass roots is a lot more work. I'd basically find a tree, walk 20ft from radius to locate all the runner shoots, you basically dig a trench back to tree and pull up 12-20 ft sections. Anyway I digress.


had a cance to try is the phenethylamine akin to mescaline. 300mg and you get something akin to entactogenic mescaline (sounds nice doesn't it). MMDA-2 also sounds really interesting, but I think that'll remain a pipe dream (even though it has the magical 2,4,5 substitution pattern).
Yeah are you referring to 2,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine? I was always sad Sasha never chased impotent compounds but I see why he did.

I never mentioned it but I would LOVE to try lophophine at active dose.
 
2C-D and 2C-T are very easy to cope with, essentially mild but quite lovely. There's enough available on mescaline, but if you want a deep & meaningful trip, 2-CE is the one. Recommended dose is 10-12mg, because 20mg is unbelievable with it's depth. 2C-P also has that property, but a 20 hour trip of that intensity leave you completely drained and you end up wishing the trip was over long before it is. 2-CT has almost the same MAOI inhibitor activity as DOT/aleph 1, so you have to be careful that you don't have anything with catchecol (dopamine or noradrenaline) activity.
Are you sure that they are so bad concerning MAO inhibition? 2C-B is a stronger MAO-A/MAO-B inhibitor than 2C-T-2 (not 2C-T-7, granted). Yes, the Alephs are MAOI, but TMA-6 has a lower IC50 than all of them. While I don't suggest combining scarcely studied drugs, with 2C-T by SAR being a worse MAOI than both 2C-T-2/2C-T-7, even with the higher dosage, I don't think I'd worry too much. Do I misinterpret data?

Edit: Of course these studies don't take into account possible metabolites, but they are a pointer.

 
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fairly certain i know of the vendor you’re referring to (also pretty sure they’re all the same one since they all have near-identical prices). I understand you’re paying extra for the convenience but goddamn their 2C-B and Mescaline prices are absolutely insane. One day I’ll pony up for both of them but they remain out of reach for me for the time being. At least escaline and methallylescaline are reasonable inexpensive
The mescaline place doesn't have 2-cb, I know the one you are referring to though
 
Yeah, but myristicin is nowhere near as plentiful and the main source (oil of nutmeg or mace) comes combined with safrole. Plenty of plans produce safrole in amounts and purity that mean you don't have to do a fractional steam distillation, to get a purity that's suitable for synthesis use. As well as MMDA, one I wished I'd had a cance to try is the phenethylamine akin to mescaline. 300mg and you get something akin to entactogenic mescaline (sounds nice doesn't it). MMDA-2 also sounds really interesting, but I think that'll remain a pipe dream (even though it has the magical 2,4,5 substitution pattern).
A quarter century ago I used to have dreams in which I produced DMMDA-2 and its n-methyl derivative, DMMDMA-2, the latter of which was not very active, but wasn't without all activity, and the primary amine was really nice. Like an extra-kickass MDA with even more psychedelia and it kinda had that "mind movies" effect that I've only read about regarding MMDA. I've long wanted to do it, but I understand why we've not seen it on the RC scene and such – Shulgin's synth is tricky and low-yielding, and as you pointed out, Myristicin is a PITA to fractionally distill out all the individual constituents. However, dillapiole is the main grab from Indian Dill Seed Oil. Made the whole lab smell like pickles – good thing I like them – and it required serious vacuum to lower its boiling point, but it otherwise progressed through isomerization, oxidation, and reductive amination like a champ.

David Foster Wallace mentions DMMDA-2 briefly in Infinite Jest wherein he refers to it as "Starry Night." I wonder why that one isn't more commonly encountered…

Also here's a question you might know something about given your background. What can you tell me about the dissociative: 2-(2-Chloro-5-methoxyphenyl)-2-(methylamino)cyclohexan-1-one?
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You might call this 5-MeO-Ketamine, but it's interesting bc Parke-Davis specifically patented just this compound, patent GB 3,072,8894, from their lab in "Great Britain" (hence the GB). It's unclear to me why they did this, why so specifically, and why there is scant literature on this compound out there. The closest I can find is 4-MeO-Ketamine – or: 2-(2-Chloro-4-methoxyphenyl)-2-(methylamino)cyclohexan-1-one – mentioned in a paper or two…

Can you explain the pharmacodynamic rationale on modifying ketamine into 3-MeO-2'-PCE? Removal of the 2-chloro group and it places a 3-methoxy group on that ring plus an ethylamine instead of methylamine. What would the Parke-Davis patent modifications produce in terms of qualitative effects?

EDIT: to be on topic here, I wish this compound were more accessible, lol
 
Also here's a question you might know something about given your background. What can you tell me about the dissociative: 2-(2-Chloro-5-methoxyphenyl)-2-(methylamino)cyclohexan-1-one?
I'm not an arylcyclohexylamine chemist but I wouldn't be shocked if the 5-methoxyphenyl substitution is something that may slightly weaken the compound or reduce desireable effects, but skirt around copyright law. Many patents aren't patented because they're superior or interesting to what already exists, but because a company wants an unpatented compound to be able to sell without infringing upon other companies' copyrights/patents.
A quarter century ago I used to have dreams in which I produced DMMDA-2 and its n-methyl derivative, DMMDMA-2,
Hyperpsychedelic MDA sounds like a dream, did DMMDA-2 or its n-methyl homolog seem to have any monoamine releasing effects or did they feel like predominantly agonists as opposed to releasers? I know you obviously can't factually discern that just from experiential uses, but I'm just curious about how you felt on the matter. In addition to that, did you make any variants that had alpha or beta substitutions outside of alpha-methyl? I imagine that alpha-ethyl or beta-[HO/MeO/EtO/Me/Keto] substitutions may lead to a compound less potent but with fascinating variations in effects. As far as my readings of PiHKAL go, it seems like a relatively trivial step performed to the aldehyde before condensation/reduction can be used for the beta subs, and the alpha subs can obviously just be changed in the condensation phase.

Also, of the compounds you hypothetically encountered/worked with, which stood out as the most interesting to you?
some of the furan substituted dragonflys
MAPB or something like it.
Have there been any empathogenic fly/dragonfly compounds circulating yet? I suspect that making a benzofuran fly is already more of a pain in the ass than creating a normal fly compound, which is already super far from trivial.
 
I wouldn't be shocked if the 5-methoxyphenyl substitution is something that may slightly weaken the compound or reduce desireable effects, but skirt around copyright law. Many patents aren't patented because they're superior or interesting to what already exists, but because a company wants an unpatented compound to be able to sell without infringing upon other companies' copyrights/patents.
Yeah that occurred to me as well, but considering how Parke-Davis already owned patents to PCP and Ketamine, I kinda doubt that was the case. And anyway, it would've made more sense to make the patent broader if their intention was to box-out competition. At least, that seems to be the modus operandi of most Big Pharma companies from what I've seen.

… did DMMDA-2 or its n-methyl homolog seem to have any monoamine releasing effects or did they feel like predominantly agonists as opposed to releasers?
Mind you, this was a long time ago and I was in my early 20s at the time, but from what I recall of it, I would say that the effects were releasing-agent-esque. I distinctly remember it giving me nystagmus such that lights would all virbrate and leave trails as they did so. The name "Starry Night" and the association to impressionism is rather apt because of this effect. This was with DMMDA-2. The n-methyl derivative was much shorter acting and more stimmy, less psychedelic, but still had some activity one I got the dose up around ~150 mg.

In addition to that, did you make any variants that had alpha or beta substitutions outside of alpha-methyl?
No, I was busy exploring other rare compounds and manufacturing MDMA, MDA, and meth at the same time. Research and exploration were secondary goals for me back then. Ah well.

I imagine that alpha-ethyl or beta-[HO/MeO/EtO/Me/Keto] substitutions may lead to a compound less potent but with fascinating variations in effects. As far as my readings of PiHKAL go, it seems like a relatively trivial step performed to the aldehyde before condensation/reduction can be used for the beta subs, and the alpha subs can obviously just be changed in the condensation phase.
Yeah that checks out.

Also, of the compounds you hypothetically encountered/worked with, which stood out as the most interesting to you?
Probably either TMA-2 or DMMDA-2. I accidentally insufflated way more TMA-2 than I meant to and tripped stupid hard, my whole world exploding into fractal insects and wood gnomes all synchronized dancing atop complex geometric patterns. It was hypnotizing and incredible. DMMDA-2 was equally dazzling, somewhere between rolling and tripping, but with less memory impairment except during the peak. After the peak experience, I found that my memories were quite vivid.

Have there been any empathogenic fly/dragonfly compounds circulating yet? I suspect that making a benzofuran fly is already more of a pain in the ass than creating a normal fly compound, which is already super far from trivial.
Yeah, 2C-B-FLY has made a few RC scene rounds, with Ann Shulgin even endorsing 2C-B-FLY as her favorite phenethylamine in an interview somewhere…
 
Probably either TMA-2 or DMMDA-2. I accidentally insufflated way more TMA-2 than I meant to and tripped stupid hard, my whole world exploding into fractal insects and wood gnomes all synchronized dancing atop complex geometric patterns. It was hypnotizing and incredible. DMMDA-2 was equally dazzling, somewhere between rolling and tripping, but with less memory impairment except during the peak. After the peak experience, I found that my memories were quite vivid.
I'm fascinated by the familiarity I feel with this story, was this published on erowid?
 
When Broad Legalization happens..

Single kilos of memantine hydrochloride wholesale for $150/kg. Given the manufacture difficulty being about equal, a same price for a kilo of Mescaline HCl should be feasible.

Let people make their own mistakes. Mescaline is the Rolls Royce of psychedelics. You puke if you abuse it, the nausea is a worthy price to pay, its relatively forgiving of dosing oopsies with its high milligram range.

When Freedom Bells ring on drug war Armistice day, let there be pre-dosed LSD on blotters and glazed microdots for safe keeping, and of course free white Heroin no.4 as is and 3-methylfentanyl in nasal spray bottles, so with its duration like heroin junkies can get their lives back, have a good nights sleep and free of OD's because like LSD its way too potent for lay people to lay it.

MDMA in 120mg tablets, methamphetamine in 3mg tablets, Memantine in 40mg tablets, Methoxetamine in 20mg tablets each splittable in fours.

Cannabisresin among things super finely dispersed in energy drink like concoctions as is done today in US legal states so cannabis people can enjoy their THC/CBD smoke free with high bioavailability. Think brands like Cycling Frog offering non-GMO fruit juice seltzers laced with either 2mg THC+4mg CBD or 5mg THC+10mg CBD. (not available in my country, not holding stock or share in the company)

In the 1960s long defunct RC company Light & Co sold single, 5 and 10gr bottles of mescaline sulfate hydrate dosed 1/4-1.2gr. How sweet a consumer product!

Shrooms, Weed, artisan Hasheesh, 2mg and 10mg Psilocybin pills, 18mg 2C-B pills, its coming baby.

Not to forget cocaine hydrochloride, Ketamine and sanely dosed anabolic steroids, trans hormones, SARMS, SERMS, Ibutamoren etc etc.

The best of the best accessible to the public in public-ready harm reduction packaging inviting responsibe use at unbeatable prices.
 
When Broad Legalization happens..

Single kilos of memantine hydrochloride wholesale for $150/kg. Given the manufacture difficulty being about equal, a same price for a kilo of Mescaline HCl should be feasible.

Let people make their own mistakes. Mescaline is the Rolls Royce of psychedelics. You puke if you abuse it, the nausea is a worthy price to pay, its relatively forgiving of dosing oopsies with its high milligram range.

When Freedom Bells ring on drug war Armistice day, let there be pre-dosed LSD on blotters and glazed microdots for safe keeping, and of course free white Heroin no.4 as is and 3-methylfentanyl in nasal spray bottles, so with its duration like heroin junkies can get their lives back, have a good nights sleep and free of OD's because like LSD its way too potent for lay people to lay it.

MDMA in 120mg tablets, methamphetamine in 3mg tablets, Memantine in 40mg tablets, Methoxetamine in 20mg tablets each splittable in fours.

Cannabisresin among things super finely dispersed in energy drink like concoctions as is done today in US legal states so cannabis people can enjoy their THC/CBD smoke free with high bioavailability. Think brands like Cycling Frog offering non-GMO fruit juice seltzers laced with either 2mg THC+4mg CBD or 5mg THC+10mg CBD. (not available in my country, not holding stock or share in the company)

In the 1960s long defunct RC company Light & Co sold single, 5 and 10gr bottles of mescaline sulfate hydrate dosed 1/4-1.2gr. How sweet a consumer product!

Shrooms, Weed, artisan Hasheesh, 2mg and 10mg Psilocybin pills, 18mg 2C-B pills, its coming baby.

Not to forget cocaine hydrochloride, Ketamine and sanely dosed anabolic steroids, trans hormones, SARMS, SERMS, Ibutamoren etc etc.

The best of the best accessible to the public in public-ready harm reduction packaging inviting responsibe use at unbeatable prices.
I sure do believe that (especially psychedelics) are coming sooner rather than later. I think they'll initially drop on the market at overpriced rates, and then will creep down in price over time, just a hunch. I suspect that the opioids that we see will more likely than not be Bentleys, based off of thebaine from Turkish Poppies for the sake of cheaper manufacture of similarly potent opioids, but that's also just a hunch. THC edibles in legal states also tend to run up to 300-500mg/dose, I was often consuming 2-3.5g of Δ9 THC daily when I was living in Maine. When redosing constantly from waking to sleeping, I could easily put down 100mg of 2C-B too, but all of these are obviously far in excess of what's truly needed for achieving full effects for most people, I'm just short most of my serotonin receptors due to having had 10+ intestinal resections in the past.

Mescaline, hash/rosin, fungi, 2C-X's, 4C-X's, DOx's, their various beta-[MeO/EtO/Me/Et/HO] substituted variants, as well as properly dosed lozenges of 25X-NBXX compounds, coca tea, ketamine and similar things (O-PCE, 2-FXE, MXE, 3-Cl-PCP, 3-F-PCP, PCP, etc), NEP, Hexen, miprocin, ethocin, hormones of all varieties, so many things could be tools that greatly increase quality of life, and if they are distributed through dispensaries with solid CoAs that are cross-validated between various laboratories, I could see the quality remaining high as the prices eventually decrease. Mescalogs such as allylescaline would also be beautiful to see in pressies. The low harm impact of psychedelics, empathogens, and dissociatives will likely lead to their prevalence before stimulants and depressants (NEP, Hexen, amphetamine, phenidates, benzos, etc) imo, but nonetheless, I suspect that a full legalization of the capacity to exhibit chemical autonomy over one's body will find its way to us.

I just also suspect that it'll move in an order bound by the intersection of optics and cost of production. Mescaline/mescalogs from vanilin via bromination and alkylation would lead to those becoming prevalent since they have shockingly low harm potentials, whereas something as "optics-fucked" as a fentalog in a nasal sprayer would probably be later on to get introduced just due to public opinion. As a reminder, I'm speaking from an American (east coast) lens).

Cannabis legalization opened these doors, and psychedelic legalization is now beginning to propagate and it's going to help further things. The last will be those with the worst optics or production costs, and frankly I'm excited to see what unique variants arise. @Nervewing is highkey my muse (my fiancee refers to them as my "internet partner", just as they refer to Hamilton Morris as my "internet boyfriend" and Claire Saffitz as my "internet girlfriend"), reading their blog posts has been inspirational to me for years and they've mentioned using arylcyclohexylamines that are PCP analogs using 3,4-Methylenedioxybenzene or 2,5-Dimethoxybenzene aromatic substitutions, and seeing these get crossed with varying alkyl groups such as PCiPR, PCPr, PCsBU, etc., and even alterations of the central ring (such as seen in POxP) may be seen. Low dosed benzodiazepines, such as diazepam, bromonordiazepam, clonazepam, etizolam, etc. may also see themselves getting compounded with things like trazodone to be sold as tripkillers.

This entire thread (and the responses therein) are essentially just daydreaming, but I sure do hope that even if they exist in a gray zone, that we will eventually reach a point like this where we can explore better living through chemistry.
 
@Esperighanto till summer begin s, and the blanket is brought in action.
There is quite an extensive variety of PhenEthylAminen available Atm.

And though i wrote em off a bit, as my body didn t really like them.
Revisiting 2C-E, 2-nd time last night. 20 mg. but i either dropped some.
Or the dose was lower or maybe not. Anyway it was warm.
A ecstatic manageable trip with flowing visual s.

Light got a bit intense intense, but i had no goal so just relaxed.
2C-E and 2C-T2. Are both very good, like you i wonder why the last one left.
And a few others, 2C-B, 2C-T7 and 2C-I.

Not 2C-B-Fly, 2C-C, 2C-D, 2C-E, 2C-G, BOH-2C-B and MethylAllylEscaline ?
 
@Esperighanto till summer begin s, and the blanket is brought in action.
There is quite an extensive variety of PhenEthylAminen available Atm.

And though i wrote em off a bit, as my body didn t really like them.
Revisiting 2C-E, 2-nd time last night. 20 mg. but i either dropped some.
Or the dose was lower or maybe not. Anyway it was warm.
A ecstatic manageable trip with flowing visual s.

Light got a bit intense intense, but i had no goal so just relaxed.
2C-E and 2C-T2. Are both very good, like you i wonder why the last one left.
And a few others, 2C-B, 2C-T7 and 2C-I.

Not 2C-B-Fly, 2C-C, 2C-D, 2C-E, 2C-G, BOH-2C-B and MethylAllylEscaline ?
I'm profoundly envious of your access to 2,4,5-trisubstituted phenethylamines man, where I live I'd have to produce them myself if I wanted access. Of the various ones that you've tried, which have stood out to you as your favorites?
 
Not 2C-B-Fly, 2C-C, 2C-D, 2C-E, 2C-G, BOH-2C-B and MethylAllylEscaline ?
Hey I think 2C-B-FLY is great. I love that drug. Also, 2C-E is excellent, though heavy which is both a merit and a worthy consideration before traipsing into all willy nilly. I can certainly see why it plus 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7 made Shulgin's list of Magical Half Dozen phenethylamines. For that matter, it's obvious why Mescaline, DOM, and 2C-B made the cut as well, to me anyway, though for different reasons. A good introduction is 2C-B for its short duration, entactogen/empathogen qualities, mellow headspace, and sensual nature. Mescaline is about your spirit animal and being in touch with your innerself. DOM is about the external world and the majesty of the universe. I think 2C-E is about your soul and the spiritual realms, while 2C-T-2 is about the body as a temple, and 2C-T-7 is about the mind as a driving force.

MAL is an impressive psychedelic and for that matter so is Allylescaline, with the former being really psychedelic and potent and the latter being a strong aphrodisiac, both highly recommended, and both with similarities to their parent compound, 3,4,5-Trimethoxyphenethylamine (Mescaline).

BOHB was okay when I tried it a few times maybe three yrs ago, something like that… Lasted a long ass time, but it was not without its own charms.

So that leaves 2C-D and 2C-G… I've had 2C-D and it doesn't really stick out much in my mind. I thought it was kinda ho-hum. As for 2C-G, the phenethylamine form of GANESHA, I've never come across it. I did have some 25G-NBOMe once and it gave me some tracers and mostly just made me feel nervous. I was visiting someone in jail that day though, so admittedly I could've picked a better set & setting.
 
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DMT. I want a fucking ocean full of crystals. I was enough to last for the rest of my life. Probably my favorite drug, honestly. I've only done N-N-DMT, but I'd totally do 5-MeO-DMT. I've just had some of the best times of my life when I'd use DMT regularly, like 4-5 times a week, or for a whole month one time. It just... it has this ability to reshape my thinking so profoundly, to turn everything upside down.

Sometimes you just have to surrender and die and come back fresh, although when I wasn't breaking through I was usually looking around at Simpsons alien world... it was honestly not always consistent, the visuals, but the wonderful feeling in the body on a dose where I'm still there, that shit surpasses any opioid to me. I've been suicidal for years, but DMT helps me so much with that...

My chemist went and met some chick who said she was infertile. Trap. She got pregnant the month they met so yeah probably never gonna have access to that again, and I don't trust myself making it... He REALLY fucked up though, because he already has a 9-year-old boy and never wanted another kid. He planned to get a vasectomy and never did. Always bragging about how he's never used a condom... I knew it'd bite him in the ass one day, now he's stuck with this controlling chick
 
2C-G is a new addition, sold per 1 dose 20 mg, pricey.
Does sound good, never heard bout 2,5-dimethoxy-3,4-dimethylamphetamine.
As Phen form of Ganesha, but what would deter me: the duration 18/ 24 hours !

Liked 2C-B at first, but at 15 mg and above it changed from funny to serious tripping.
Cartoon-ish, saw OEV s i never had with anything. Like a LP cover hanging in blob s.
So little roundish pieces, at sight vibrating back and forth to reform to it OG shape.
A square LP standing on the ground, bizar. Even kinda scary the way the OEV s,
would surprise me many times, and in-between everything regular.

2C-C en 2C-D where agitating/ irritating, body-load. Body temp up/ down.
bk-2C-B mysterious was it a dud ? Was it worth taking it, not.
[100 mg so still got 1.9 gr lying around]. Maybe its inactive,
someone here could answer that. It felt rotten but not psychedelic/ fun.

MAL i dunno, dosed to low, 20 and then 30. Should have taken 50 mg.
DOC was a disaster, long duration bad body vibes, and no stopping it.

@Esperighanto a toss, 2C-T2 or 2C-E. Different, but the 2 best ime.
 
... so yeah probably never gonna have access to that again, and I don't trust myself making it...
The technique don t seem that complicated, never did it ! But plan to, sometime.
The materials sources of DMT and Harmala alkaloids, in various forms available.
Legal, assuming it stays like that, it will at the end be one of the few legal,
to get psychedelics. Nice project for when i reach 65.

Making DMT crystals, would be the Cherry on my drug Pie.
The procedure seemed to be pretty simple with some practice.
Or was that a wrong assumption ?
 
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