What is your favorite form of Testosterone?

What is your favorite form of Testosterone?

  • Testosterone Undecanoate

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Testosterone Etanthate

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • Testosterone Cypionate

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • Testosterone Propionate

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Testosterone No Ester (TNE)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Blend of Testosterone (Sustanon)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Endogenous Testosterone

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Total voters
    9
I plan on making it a sticky thread. I'll also PM you the link as well.
 
thanks. am trying to wrap an article myself (on the societal sickness that is "thug culture"). and by "wrap", i mean "edit as to distinguish my views from racism lol.
/not a racist but goddamn will this article make some think that :|
 
If I was going by what I felt the best on i'd say suspension. I had a great reaction to it. Fast gains and fast kick in time. In reality though,it's just not worth pinning so much for just test. That being said I'd take enanthate over any other ester. I've always had stready results with it and you can't beat it for the price imo. Shot frequency is a much bigger deal now that i'm in my 30s,then it was 5 years ago.
 
I'm hammering out the final details. I'm making it extremely modular so people can basically add and drop compounds depending on their goal and it's going to be near idiot proof.

I'll check out your writeup right now bro.
 
AlmostFamous said:
Some of the blends are outrageous. There's one popular blend that makes sense. GP Test 400. It's Test C 200mg/ml and Test E 200mg/ml.
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This is exactly the kind of blend I like. Never tried the GP one (are we even allowed to talk about lab names here?), but my source has one with the same amount of c and e per ml, is cheaper than buying the same amount of test separately, doesn't give any pip, flows nicely through thing needles and definitely appears to be accurately dosed (judging by the effects anyway). So I really see no reason not to use it. Also has some test 500 with 200mg c, 100mg e and 200mg d per ml which is even cheaper per ml, only did a few shots so far, so I can't comment on effects, but there is no pip and it flows nicely through thin needles which is also good.

I tried prop once (got a free vial and thought what the hell, why not). Not something for me, frequent injections, left painful bumps and if I wanted any meaningful amount I'd need to inject huge amounts. No thanks.

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned long estered test at high doses + ai = best, cheap, effective, doesn't give me any sides (well ok, a little bloat above 1g per week). There are a few others that I also like, but they are either expensive (anavar + test is great if you can afford it) or have sides that I hate (tren, deca - I kinde like my sleep(yes, deca also gives me insomnia)) or are something you can't take for long (dbol (back pumps get crazy after a few weeks), mtren (don't hate my liver that much). Never tried anadrol but would like to at least once, online opinion seems split between toxic piece of crap and turns you in to the hulk over night. Oh yeah, and test-1-cyp, that's something it like to try too, supposed to be kinda like tren with less sides.
 
The sustanon blend will always be my favorite.

But I love test P for it's fast action. Let's me know if the gear is legit or not.
 
Renz Envy said:
The sustanon blend will always be my favorite.

But I love test P for it's fast action. Let's me know if the gear is legit or not.
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This is an example of something every important in bodybuilding. Renz uses Sustanon because he reacts fine to it and experiences no side effects , not because he heard some big guy at the gym used it.

Finding out what compound works for an individual is very important. Don't choose a particular steroid because everyone raves about or overlook a steroid because nobody cares for it.

Take what people say here and research it yourself, and then put it into practice. Try out Test E then try Test C, and Test P. From there, give a Testosterone blend a shot to see if it's right for you.
 
I have always liked Test-E and stuck with it. Mostly cause I am not a fan of injecting too often so I don't bother with sustanon etc. When the stealths came out I was curious to try the 450mg/ml supertest but for some reason I never got round to it.
 
auhsoJ said:
Test E here. I've used Test E for two cycles and Test C for two. I honestly don't know the difference but I had no heart palpitations from test e.
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Is Test E popular in the US now? I remember when it was always Test-E was the British favourite and Test-C was the American favourite. I know they are interchangeable and there is no difference except a day or 2 on the ester but it was that way for ages and there seemed to be no cross over.
 
DavidWhy said:
Is Test E popular in the US now?
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Yup. It's cheap, easy to use, requires a once a week injection and provides the base for just about any cycle. The dose can be used at 250mg in order to preserve libido and normal bodily function or at higher doses for thickness and size.
 
DavidWhy said:
I have always liked Test-E and stuck with it. Mostly cause I am not a fan of injecting too often so I don't bother with sustanon etc. When the stealths came out I was curious to try the 450mg/ml supertest but for some reason I never got round to it.
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I recommend going no higher than the 300mg some underground labs offer. Any higher and the PIP can become a real problem. It's hard to stabilize that much Testosterone and a lot of UGLs get around this by adding a crazy amount of BA.
 
-Guido- said:
Yup. It's cheap, easy to use, requires a once a week injection and provides the base for just about any cycle. The dose can be used at 250mg in order to preserve libido and normal bodily function or at higher doses for thickness and size.
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what is the weakest active dosage? i mean...hmmm..obviously it's "active" 100% but i guess i mean that if you only shot 1mg, your body would make a little bit less testosterone- you would not have affected total testosterone levels. For 250mg to work you'd have to be shutting down, no?
/my understanding here is kinda weak, so may be missing something obvious
 
bmxxx said:
what is the weakest active dosage? i mean...hmmm..obviously it's "active" 100% but i guess i mean that if you only shot 1mg, your body would make a little bit less testosterone- you would not have affected total testosterone levels. For 250mg to work you'd have to be shutting down, no?
/my understanding here is kinda weak, so may be missing something obvious
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When you remove the weight of the ester, I think you're left with about 180mg of actual testosterone, which half-lives at 5 days so thats 90mg in the first week, but as the compounded half-lives add up you end up with just over 170mg/week.... Against 70mg of endogenous test, obviously some of that will be reduced when exogenous test is detected....
170mg/week is better than fuck-all and ok to cruise on....
 
bmxxx said:
what is the weakest active dosage? i mean...hmmm..obviously it's "active" 100% but i guess i mean that if you only shot 1mg, your body would make a little bit less testosterone- you would not have affected total testosterone levels. For 250mg to work you'd have to be shutting down, no?
/my understanding here is kinda weak, so may be missing something obvious
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I'm not exactly sure what the weakest active dosage is only because so many variables come into play. You base Testosterone levels, age, sex, diet, other steroids in your system, and activity level can all influence the weakest active dose. As far as bodybuilding is concerned, the weakest active dose would be between 100mg and 250mg but that is strictly dependent on those variables.

Exogenous Testosterone will work regardless of being shutdown or not. Shutdown simply occurs when your body has enough Testosterone in the blood stream, so production in the testes ceases. Simply put, exogenous Testosterone reduces endogenous Testosterone.
 
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-Guido- said:
Done.
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Thanks Guido. Much appreciated. This is like the only thread in Steroid Discussion that deserves a poll. Or if there's more than one that deserves it, this is the obvious choice. :D

It'll be interesting to see the results of course. I think some body builders also use a mix of different esters, however I'm assuming the majority of body builders use just one ester.

If I was using an exogenous source, and had the $$$$ to do so, I'd go with an ester-free testosterone. I don't mind IMing on a multiple times per day basis, as I'm already using buprenorphine IM/IV that often. My muscles are used to it. If that wasn't an option based on availability or was too costly, I'd go with propionate.

LOL and I just noticed that you DID include a blend of esters as an option in the poll! You covered all your bases Guido; well done.
 
-Guido- said:
Exogenous Testosterone will work regardless of being shutdown or not. Shutdown simply occurs when your body has enough Testosterone in the blood stream, so production in the testes ceases. Simply put, exogenous Testosterone reduces endogenous Testosterone.
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The 3rd sentence disproves the 1st then no?
If my body naturally likes to walk around with 100units, but i take 25units exogenous, then my body will still walk around with 100units (25 exogenous and 75, instead of 100, natural/endo units)
^that's always been my understanding (and it's implication- that until you pass 100units, it's really pointless; ie, if you're not shutting down adn exceeding natural endo levels, you're simply swapping some exo for endo and running a net-even blood level)
/on-topic enough: what are typical dosgaes/approaches for "legit", dr.-approved HRT for "lifestyle" and not strictly 'medical' reasons? Like, i doubt the billboards pushing HRT to wealthy middle-agers are offering 500mg/week levels. Do these therapies work by shutting down endo and replacing with exo, or is it endo+exo = MORE THAN endo would have been alone?)
 
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