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What is your current supplement regimen and why you use them

Gary Gnu said:

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brayne said:
Vitamin C - a little bit everyday - I think it's healthy
Spirulina - contains high amount of protein/vitamin/minerals
Glucosamine - good for knees/elbows/wrists

Spirulina is good. I take it thrice a week 500mgx6 after I wake up (especially when I don't feel like really eating...it keeps me full and is perfect before a workout.)

Glucosamine and Choindritin ~ 1000 mgs

CoEnzymeQ10 ~ 50mgs twice a day

Virgin Coconut oil ~ once a day....I have it in sweet corn flavor. Coconut oil is very popular back here and it comes in a variety of cold-pressed flavors even for kids.
 
Why do you take coconut oil? I thought that was the most unhealthy vegetable oil, loaded with saturated fats?
 
I changed my regiment around almost entirely since I last posted.

9 LEF Life Extension Mix tabs daily (divided doses)
6 Cal/Mag caps (divided doses)
Prostate Formula AM and PM
Fish oil (LEF brand) 4 caps daily.
13gms Vitamin C daily
Green vegetable powder caps and red fruit powder caps
Grape Seed Extract
Resveratol
7200mg Piracetam
9mg Hydergine

And a few others that I can't remember off of the top of my head.
 
Why do you take coconut oil? I thought that was the most unhealthy vegetable oil, loaded with saturated fats?

Nope it isn't. Many Asians take it as part of our regular diet.
http://www.coconutoil.com/


Coconut oil is more saturated than beef tallow, palm oil, lard, and almost all other commonly used oils (olive, safflower, canola, corn,... you name it).

There may be other health reasons to choose coconut oil, such as anti-microbial action or other nutrients - but make no mistake that coconut is 90%+ saturated fats.

If you are choosing an oil based on it's actual saturated vs. unsaturated content, then don't choose coconut.
 
^yeah ....
Coconut oil is a colorless to pale brownish yellow oil with a melting point ranging from 23ºC to 26ºC. The glycerides of coconut oil are invariably a mixture of one, two, or three fatty acids. Though coconut oil is known as triglyceride or lipid, it also contains minor proportions of mono and diglycerides and has highest content of glycerol (13/5% to 15.0%). Glycerol is a carbohydrate with chemical composition similar to that of simple sugar. This implies that with coconut oil as a dietary fat, the actual intake of fatty substances is much less than that with same quantity of any other actual intake of any other oil.

A study done in a two groups of community living in New Zealand who consume a large number of coconut oil has proved that they have rare incidents of hypercholesterolemia and heart attack. According to Prior, Davidson et al. two groups of Polynesians from Cook Islands derive 35% and 27% of their calories from coconut oil but their mean cholesterol values are low, i.e. 153 mg% and 195 mg% respectively. Prevalence of heart attacks also is low in these groups compared to the usual New Zealand population.

About 70% Sri Lankans are consuming coconut oil for over 1000 years but the epidemic of hypercholesterolemia and heart disease is of recent origin. Before 1950, heart attacks were not common in Sri Lanka. Hospital admission rate for heart attacks was 57.3 in 1970 to 182 in 1992. On the other hand the Central Bank of Sri Lanka figures out that the coconut consumption has gone down from 132 nuts per person per year in 1952 to 90 per person per year in 1991. It indicates that the increase of heart attacks incidents in Sri Lanka is not due to the increased consumption of coconut.

In a study in the Philippines, 10 medical students tested diets consisting of different levels of animal fat and coconut oil. When the ratio of animal fat and coconut oil at ratio of 1:1, 1:2, 1:3 no significant change in cholesterol but when animal fat level increased total calories reached 40% and blood cholesterol increased. This study indicated that not only did coconut had no effect on cholesterol levels, it even reduced the cholesterol elevating effect of animal fat.

Hashim et al (1953) demonstrated that coconut oil was not a “bad oil” when they compared essential fatty acid-rich safflower oil with an equal mixture of safflower oil and coconut oil on 10 hyper-cholesterolemia males, 8 of whom were survivors of myocardial infarction. They showed that both safflower oil (SFO) and safflower oil-coconut oil (SFO-CNO) caused marked decrease in the serum cholesterol and that the (SFO-CNO) effect was obtained regardless of whether it was fed before or after the safflower oil (Kaunits, 1992).

There were some experiments which concluded that coconut oil caused hypercholesterolemia, but these experiments turned out to be unacceptable due to some reasons. First, these experiments used hydrogenated coconut oil in which the coconut oil became more saturated and its essential fatty acid, linoleic fatty acid, got destroyed. Second, Most of the research work has been done using animals such as rabbits, monkeys, dogs, swine, and rats and the number of animal used are very small. In some experiments only four animals were used. Third, Rabbit model used for most of the research work cannot be compared to man. It has been found that when corn oil is administered to a man it will make his serum cholesterol level come down, while in the rabbit model, corn oil increases serum cholesterol level (Aturokarole, 1996).

The fact that coconut oil belongs to saturated oil cannot be automatically justified to be the cause of increasing LDL cholesterol as coconut oil has its own unique properties. Moreover, people may not know what saturated oil means. Chemically, oil is made up of chains of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen called fatty acid. All fatty acids consist of a chain of carbon atoms with varying amounts of hydrogen atoms attached to them. A molecule that has two hydrogen atoms attached to each carbon is said to be “saturated” with hydrogen because it is holding all the hydrogen atoms it possibly can. A fatty acid that is missing a pair of hydrogen atoms on one of its carbons is called monounsaturated fat. If more than two hydrogen atoms are missing, it is called polyunsaturated fat. (Fife, 2000).

It must be noted that there are different groups of fatty acids contained in major oils and fat. Generally they are grouped into medium chain fatty acids (MCFA), and long chain fatty acids (LCFA). The two fatty acids have different behavior and health effect to human being. Those who equate coconut oil with other saturated fats are not conscious of the existence of subgroups within broad category of saturated fatty acids. The medium fatty acids have a lower melting point, a smaller molecular size and greater solubility in water and biological fluids compared with those of the long chain fatty acids (Thampan, 1998).

Coconut oils is grouped into MCFA as 57% its fatty acids consisting of C8 (capric acid) and C12 (lauric acid). A number of noted scientists have revealed the superiority of MCFA. Coconut oil has approximately 50% lauric acid. Lauric acid has the additional beneficial function of being formed into monolaurin in the human or animal body. Monolaurin is the antiviral, antibacterial, and antiprotozoal monoglyceride used by the human or animal to destroy lipid-coated viruses such as HIV, herpes, cytomegalovirus, influenza, various pathogenic bacteria, including listeria monocytogenes and helicobacter pylori, and protozoa such as giardia lamblia. Some studies have also shown some antimicrobial effects of the free lauric acid. (Enig, 1999).

Coconut oil has also, approximately 6-7% capric acid. Capric acid has a similar beneficial function when it is formed into monocaprin in the human or animal body. Monocaprin has also been shown to have antiviral effects against HIV and is being tested for antiviral effects against herpes simplex and antibacterial effects against chlamydia and other sexually transmitted bacteria. (Reuters, London June 29, 1999).

Garcia who stated in her article that vegetable oils did not have cholesterol is not accurate. The latest research finding concludes that cholesterol can also be found in vegetable oils. INFORM Vol. 13 December 2002 published by American Oil Chemists’ Society indicates that vegetable oils contain cholesterol although in small amounts. It is further stated that coconut oil has the lowest cholesterol amounts (5-24 parts per million) compared to palm kernel oil, sunflower oil, palm oil, soy oil, conttonseed oil, rapeseed oil, and corn oil. Please see table 1.
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http://www.apccsec.org/truth.html

I don't think further explanation is necessary, it has been proven in this forum that there will always be refuters and disbelievers or whatever. Even our doctors back here recommend coconut oil as a dietary supplement and those of us who take it can attest to its efficacy. It's not for everybody and nobody is telling you to take it. Now back on topic :p anybody else with an inquiry take it to PM.
 
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crystalcallas said:
^yeah ....

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http://www.apccsec.org/truth.html

I don't think further explanation is necessary, it has been proven in this forum that there will always be refuters and disbelievers or whatever. Even our doctors back here recommend coconut oil as a dietary supplement and those of us who take it can attest to its efficacy. It's not for everybody and nobody is telling you to take it. Now back on topic :p anybody else with an inquiry take it to PM.

Perhaps you should have read my post before considering me "refuters".

And the chart you linked to is for CHOLESTEROL. not SATURATED FAT.

I don't think further explanation is necessary, it has been proven in this forum that there will always be refuters and disbelievers or whatever

What exactly did you "disprove" of my post?

Animal sources are sources of cholesterol.. not plant sources (mostly). What is YOUR point?
 
And the chart you linked to is for CHOLESTEROL. not SATURATED FAT.

I know. :)I merely posted the in-depth article in response to your (and Fizzacysts) earlier post about coconut oil being one of the worst saturated fats out there. End of story.
I wasn't calling you a refuter I was speaking in general.
 
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I take a strong iron tablet, a berocca all B vitamins tablet - both of these because I am a vegetarian and although i eat really healthily and try get all i need from my food, i still can get pretty tired.

I also take cods liver for healthy joints and heart, and a multivitamin just in case i lack anything :)
 
crystalcallas said:
^^^^I'm curious...what is that green vegetable powder cap brand ? Is it like spirulina?

The one that I use is Gary Null's Gary's Green Stuff tabs.

Contains the following:

Green Kamut Juice, powdered
Wheatgrass Juice, powdered
Barley Green Juice, powdered
Alfalfa leaf, powdered
Oat Grass Juice, powdered
Broccoli, powdered
Parsley, powdered
Kale, powdered
Soluble rice bran
Pineapple
Organic Carrot Juice, powdered
Spirulina
Yucca Root
Black Licorice Root Extract

From the label:
"Gary's Green Stuff is a valuable natural source of Chlorophyll, Magnesium, Potassium, SOD, Alanine, Arginine, Aspartic Acid, Cystine, Glutamic Acid, Glycine, Histidine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Proline, Serine, Threonine, Tyrosine, Valine and over 18 trace minerals"

http://garynull.com/store/product.php?productid=78&cat=22&page=1

Its also available in powdered form - a tablespoon to a glass of water if I remember right. I used to use the powdered form of it along with a teaspoon of Gary's Red Stuff powder three times a day, but switched to the capsules out of convienience.
 
Taliana said:
I take a strong iron tablet, a berocca all B vitamins tablet - both of these because I am a vegetarian and although i eat really healthily and try get all i need from my food, i still can get pretty tired.

I also take cods liver for healthy joints and heart, and a multivitamin just in case i lack anything :)

Was your iron supplement recommended by a physician? I'm just wondering, but I also don't eat much red meat anymore (although I still eat chicken and a bit of fish), not neccessairly because I don't want to but the dishes I make for myself during the week don't really contain much red meat. Just the occasionally mince dish.
 
i would recommend omegabrite fish oil capsules, particularly if one is using it for mood. they have a very high epa:dha ratio (7:1)...epa is the 'better' of the two although i think you need some of both. i have been very happy with omegabrite. www.omegabrite.com
 
ps...i realized re-reading that that it almost sounded like an advertisement...i have no affiliation with omegabrite at all...i just really like thier fish oil capsules.
 
crystalcallas said:
Thanks dwfan. :) that looks tasty ;) I've been looking for a good "green" supplement and I will probably get that for myself.

Actually it has a VERY faint taste...almost barely noticeable. I would also suggest taking his Red Stuff caps or powder as well along with it, as well as Blueberry/cherry extract caps.
 
rashandreflex said:
^ is that irritible bowel (syndrome) disorder?
IBD stands for 'inflammatory bowel disease'. The symptoms can be similar to IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) but the condition is far more serious.
 
1x
Blackmores sustained release multi vitamin.
Although I change MV like underwear, my cousin used to be a doctor and is the smartest person I have come across and he recomends blackmores because he knows the company and agrees with there values on nutrition.
I have tried others and have found them to be too strong or contain dolomite. My 2nd choice would be centrum.

3-5x
Deep Sea omega 3 fish oil (Vitaplex) wich is independant lab tested for mercury with a specific ratio of EPA 180mg DHA 120mg, this is my favorite suppliment by far.

1x(300mg extract)
Kyolic(Aged Garlic Extract)
Used for detox, because it is the most used herb and have read it removes heavy metals.

1x on empty stomach
Nutralife liver guard. (milk thistle)
Has a good combination of ingrediants with compliment each other without overdoing it.

8 grams
Chlorella I will be taking this soon but for now I am taking chlorophyll for its detoxing.

1x on empty stomach
Inner health plus(acidopholis etc etc) for better absorption of vitamins etc and for digestive health.

I dont usually take a seperate vit e but if i do i go with pinnacle "isomer-e", i ordered mine from usa because there not released in australia yet, they contain the full spectrum of vitamin e in its most bio available form, and its the only brand wich had this, other vitamins Es are like taking a b vitamin without say b12 or without b6.
 
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