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What is wrong with the MDMA available today?

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tired of crap said:
@indigoaura
What if we’re looking at this backwards and there was an impurity in the old s synth that synergized or potentiated the experience
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This is one of the potential theories. Somewhere in this thread, I proposed multiple thesis statements based on the existing evidence, and this was one of them. I would have to find that post though.
 
G_Chem said:
From what I’ve heard it’s going to be another similar ketone-substituted compound that skirts the laws still... Pretty sure it’s already in the works too.
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It is possible to make MDMA base out of air ;)
At least in theory.
 
I just started watching The Business of Drugs, Synthetic episode, and saw that Paul F. Daley is the Research Director & Chemist of the Alexander Shulgin Institute. If my understanding is correct, wasn't it Erwoid who was archiving Shulgin's notes and isn't Bluelight somehow connected with Erwoid?

Can one of the mods here reach out to Daley and see what his thoughts are? I have no problem emailing him, but I'm just a random guy on the net and I'd sound ignorant since I have no chemistry knowledge, unlike other people here.
 
Seen tab test done on 300 mg dutch pills which turned out to actually be 180 mg mdma and 2 mg of speed from a big supplier yet people claim its the cleanest rolls they have done. Speed + mdma has always been good imo.

So these "high dose" pills don't acutally contain alot of these crazy amounts and are acutally under 200 mg instead of the advertised 300 mg.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
Seen tab test done on 300 mg dutch pills which turned out to actually be 180 mg mdma and 2 mg of speed from a big supplier yet people claim its the cleanest rolls they have done. Speed + mdma has always been good imo.

So these "high dose" pills don't acutally contain alot of these crazy amounts and are acutally under 200 mg instead of the advertised 300 mg.
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Its those jurassic you said magic?
 
May be the wrong thread for this but do any of you plant Sassafras? I've had the idea of planting some and hoping I live long enough to see it mature.
 
@G_Chem's hyper-sexual MDMA experience was sent in to Ecstasy Data and no amphetamine or methamphetamine was found in the crystal.

I do not doubt that adding speed to a roll changes the quality of the experience. I have taken pills where the orange marquis reaction was there as well as the purple MDMA reaction, and they were definitely different than the MDMA only pills. Sexually, for me it resulted in some oddities that were not usually present in my MDMA only rolls, but I can't say that I found it preferable to the typical sexual rolls going around at that time. Then, there were the annoying characteristics of not being able to sleep and sometimes intense paranoia and anxiety on the day after.

However, I really feel that for clarity in this thread we need to stop floating this hypothesis that the reason MDMA felt different before was speed, or the reason that MDMA is sexual is speed.

Amphetamine and methamphetamine are known compounds that labs are looking for. I trust that if there was either in a sample, Drugs Data would see it and identify it due to the fact that they are already looking for it.

None of the samples I sent in from 2000-2005 had speed in them, and G_Chem's recent and classic "pants tent" experience has now been confirmed to be MDMA only, as far as the lab can tell.

So, we have multiple pieces of evidence that show that this is not the missing puzzle piece, and I feel like it confuses newer contributors to the thread.

Not that I don't think it is interesting to ponder the variables of various drug mixtures, I do find that fascinating discussion, but I don't think adding speed to the mix is the answer we are looking for.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
But 2mg of amphetamine is a very low dose. Is there some synergism going on here?
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Yup I can attest 2mg of both pure meth and amp will very positively alter the roll without over taking it so long as the user isn’t burnt out speed user.

I agree with Indigo though that it’s not the answer to why people feel product has changed.

-GC
 
Finally got my hands on the product my brother has been saving for me, according to him it’s top quality and with how burnt out he is I trust him lol.

It looks very pure, much like a lot of the product I get but I think this batch solidifies in me what a shard of high purity MDMA looks like.

Shards which are nearly clear/slight cloudy in larger forms but as they break down, the pieces which are 5-20mg are pretty much see through. Has the typical fused HCl look but again IMO highly pure product has a particular formation almost as if your can see a lot of very well defined crystals all melted together. Less pure product just looks like an opaque rock often.

Didn’t roll this weekend but might next, excited to eat this stuff.

-GC
 
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