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MDA has a shorter duration than MDMA.
If you speak about total duration no, they are more or less equivalent with MDA being slightly longer due to a slower comedown.

I've noticed when I eat ecstasy tablets with LSD. My LSD trips last 10x times longer.
Probably you don't spend multiple days tripping just because you took some pills with your LSD.
Why don't you provide an actual measurement?
 
If you speak about total duration no, they are more or less equivalent with MDA being slightly longer due to a slower comedown.

Not a fan of the dreadful MDA come down...
Gunna need a lot of Cannabis to get through that one...
Not a hang over I'm willing to sacrifice.

Probably you don't spend multiple days tripping just because you took some pills with your LSD.
Why don't you provide an actual measurement?
LOL!!!
I do, Mate.

How can I prove such an experience... Uhhum... Lets see. iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIII
 
LOL!!!
I do, Mate.
How can I prove such an experience... Uhhum... Lets see. iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIII
So, you take a few tabs and a few pills during the course of a night, and then you need about 80 more hours to be sober?
 
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MDA has definitely longer duration than MDMA. It's also much more hallucinogenic in my opinion and according to my experience. I used to get white, round very thick MDA pills which were stamped with sunflower image in NYC around 2005. I had been using (abusing) extacy for a long time before that and the first time I ingested those pills, thinking that it wouldn't be too diffrent, I started to get very cool visual effects similar to LSD which surprised me a lot. Also, the body load was much more pronounced than MDMA. Remember being really drained for a couple days after taking two of them. It was very different than MDMA which in comparison was a day in the park coming down from. The high stayed with me after I woke up the next day evening and the visuals kicked back in when I smoked weed. After that I had more respect for MDA and I didn't take a few of them (the way I used to take MDMA those days) in a session again.
 
I think that you might be getting a little paranoid heatlessbbq. Why would anybody do that? I don't see many wasting time to mess with another bler.
 
"Summary
Although most sources list the duration of MDA as between 6 and 12 hours, usually stressing that it is significantly longer in duration than MDMA, many users of MDA have found the two to be of similar duration and effects. A number of very credible reports exist of MDA-only experiences lasting 12-24 hours, but these appear to be far less common than experiences under 6 hours.

Based on our analysis of the available data, we have recently changed our documentation of MDA duration from "8- 12 hours" to "3-5 hours" and added notes about the confusion and lingering effects.

There are several open questions: whether MDA's duration may be more dosesensitive than MDMA; what percentage of users experience what duration; how to describe the effects-time curve so that we have a shared terminology for describing when effects "end"; and whether some of the duration confusion is due to including boosts in duration calculations."

This is from:
Still High at 12 Hours or Down at 3?
Re-examining MDA Duration
by EARTH & FIRE EROWID

It seems like MDA may be more dose responsive than MDMA. Other than that the peak durations are pretty much the same. We all take different doses so this might be the culprit of disagreement. I don't think that someone is playing a game with you heatlessbbq. We write according to our experiences and the literature which we read.
 
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I do think maybe our good friend is not so fully well perhaps. Let us all try and be as sensitive and understanding as possible I would like to suggest. No question @heatlessbbq is sincere, but I am concerned for you bro.

Please let me assure you I personally have absolutely nothing against you, I make zero judgement on you, and I remain open to you and your posts at all times, of course that doesn't mean I agree with you all of the time.

I also wish to very strongly assure you, that from my perspective and where I am standing I really do not believe that any any single member here has it in for you so to speak or harbours any bad feelings your way.

I can totally empathize with them and relate to what they are saying, as, please take this as it is openly and warmly intended, I have to agree that you appear highly prone to delusion, and many things you say do not make any logical sense to me or fit with already firmly established ideas and notions (which absolutely can always be, and probably mostly always are incorrect until eventually modified or scrapped altogether, but at the same time really no reason to doubt or question).

I only say this to try and empathize and help you see the overall picture here more clearly. I seriously, seriously doubt that anybody has multiple accounts to troll and target you.

I do think that perhaps we should make more effort to be less provoked and more sensitive but I can totally understand why the members have been reacting to you as they have because they legitimately feel that that many of your nonsensical and at times contradictory posts and comments are detracting from and disrupting the flow of various threads.

But essentially this is a harm reduction site and the members here are incredibly passionate about trying to be as accurate and objectively honest as possible with every thing that is shared here for the sake of reliable information and safety for any who may see the information.

So I can understand passions running a little high when people genuinely feel that potentially dangerous inaccurate information is posted here and that is why why you feel on the brunt of such retaliation which I promise you you have misinterpreted.

In no way will any of this actually be personal and I am absolutely sure that that nobody is judging you you here and that everybody will remain open to you participating more suitably and appropriately if and when you are able to demonstrate this more consistently.

@heatlessbbq one thing I truly believe about Bluelight, and a big reason why I have such positive and warm feelings about this place and the many members here- we all care, genuinely. This is a very mature, humble place and set of people who simply don't hold grudges or make judgements for the most part.

Im sure we would all like to see you feel more accepted, but you have to be prepared to be met with retaliation, rebuttal and criticism if others genuinely, and strongly feel that your mindset is not right, resulting in you posting potentially dangerous inaccurate information.

Im not judging you ONE BIT bro. I'm not thinking or suggesting for one moment that I know more than you or that you do not have extensive and useful knowledge and experience which others can learn from especially myself. However I cannot help but feel that you may need some help in life if and that possibly you are quite alone in this sense(?)

So I dont know what to suggest, and I really don't mean to patronise you I just really would like to help you to feel more accepted here and able to appreciate where the other members are coming from to make better and more appropriate contributions or at least to go about it in a different way.
 
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