@BlueBull- The benefit is people don't have to wade through almost 50pages just to get to the most relevant and important information... Most people get intimidated and say fuck it. The second thread spurred a lot of new discussion when things were getting stale due to the reasons I just stated. I can understand you guys want to "prune" but there were obvious benefits to having that second thread.
@Glubra- I understand the tartrate salt should be heavier thus requiring more but there's been rumors for years in the chemistry forum communities that say that at least MDA tartrate is more potent than HCl. There may be a reason beyond heavier weight that chemists use this salt.
Citrate is even heavier but there's been quite a few bioassays of MDMA citrate online and it sounds to be quite different from the HCl in a way that most common users wouldn't like. It lasts longer but doesn't hit as hard either, sounds like there may be more MDMA to MDA metabolism going on with the citrate..
Tartrate may be closer to HCl in effect while allowing chemists to make more money off the heavier salt.
Did the guy who took the last stuff have any comments on the experience or not really?
-GC
@Glubra- I understand the tartrate salt should be heavier thus requiring more but there's been rumors for years in the chemistry forum communities that say that at least MDA tartrate is more potent than HCl. There may be a reason beyond heavier weight that chemists use this salt.
Citrate is even heavier but there's been quite a few bioassays of MDMA citrate online and it sounds to be quite different from the HCl in a way that most common users wouldn't like. It lasts longer but doesn't hit as hard either, sounds like there may be more MDMA to MDA metabolism going on with the citrate..
Tartrate may be closer to HCl in effect while allowing chemists to make more money off the heavier salt.
Did the guy who took the last stuff have any comments on the experience or not really?
-GC