Science is real. Yes, it’s provable, repeatable, and oftentimes predictable. It’s precisely because of rigorous standards of scientific discovery that we have things like anesthesia, the Internet, air conditioning, computer processors smaller than grains of rice, cellphones, Li-ion batteries, the combustion engine, helicopters, vastly extended life spans, medicine and modern surgical technique, microwave ovens, GPS, birth control, printing presses and metallurgy, geological understanding and weather prediction. I could go on & on, and so could you pointing out bad things like atomic bombs, lobotomies, and the rapid triggering + unfolding of global pandemics, etc.
Regardless, not to go all technocrat on you, but I don’t see this trend slowing down any, nor any point in fighting it. Criticizing the world for rightfully placing significance on the importance of science is about as smart as disregarding mathematics for being “overrated”. Pseudoscience, superstition, and other quackery spread misinformation and are both dangerous
and responsible for more human suffering than good. Please stop believing in bullshit,
@AutoTripper.
So this is based on the trip reports you’ve read then, not your own experience?
Right. Like finding your dropped Armani pill in the grass couldn’t have been luck or subconscious memory? As if every time in the past when someone had a pseudoscientific explanation this wasn’t later uncovered as logical fallacy, hoax or another kind of deception.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience
So? So did I. This doesn’t signify or imply anything to do with either science or quackery.
You need better proof than this, and I think you know this.
No it hasn’t. Trip reports are just anecdotes supporting a drawn conclusion from test results. They alone are not scientific proofs.
That’s nice you feel that way, but this doesn’t make it true. Calling this forum a courtroom is a bad metaphor, and sure I agree that subjectivity is prominent here, but I think its rightfulness stops at the end of a trip report.
The way I see it, your so-called point is that science can and should be discarded in favor of subjective experience and a blind willingness to believe anything. Regardless of intention, this runs 100% counter to my point with false logic and ridiculously poorly thought-out arguments.
No, this is absolute rubbish, sorry.
Whoa the irony is thick here. Do you not see how this is a problem? ... how these two sentences are at odds with one another? Or are you just deliberately trolling? I’m not saying this to offend you, but I’m finding it hard to grant any credibility to the point you’re attempting to make.
Ah. Well I hope this explains the flaws in your logic, reasoning, and conclusion…
I’ve been taking 100mg doses when taking 5-MAPB by itself. When I tried the Borax combo from Reddit I believe I dosed that at 80mg. The other night when coupled with Epracetin, I had taken 100mg of that with… I think it was ~28mg 4-AcO-EPT.
Yep, that’s my conclusion, and I share your fondness for a disso in that situation, usually Ketamine or GHB, which both work splendidly in moderate amounts. That said, insufflating 8mg 3-HO-PCP and dabbing giant rips of DMT freebase was the order of the evening the other night.
You seem to be completely ruling out the paranormal, psychic ability, ESP essentially.
I covered 3 miles in darkness, deep grass, I had no markers. The camp fire I was searching for was put out. People gone. Not a car or object within 50 metres. I had no idea where they had even been. It was night 3, 5 Armani’s that Sunday night and an MDMA capsule, Mushroom tea, Hoffman acid and grass truffles and the best cannabis of my life all that weekend, skunk, pollen and hash.
I was so high in that moment, I did suffer some assault on my brain from the MDMA in the August heatwave, like a sauna it was, this I experienced several hours later.
Luck, subconscious memory, DO NOT come into this. You are totally off the mark with this one. I’m speaking of genuine ESP phenomena.
I had zero probability of ever finding that lost Armani pill. I had zero intention of looking for it.
A needle in a haystack, I might have a feel around, but an E tablet somewhere in deep dark grass, no clue where whatsoever.
The idea of recovering it never entered my mind it would have been so illogical.
Now yes, you could argue it was luck I stopped dead still in that exact spot when I saw the camp fire by the hedge, 30 metres in front of me where the nice couple had been who I was returning from the festival ground with £3.50 change for them, was no longer visible.
But the way I reached down, one finger pointed out, others folded in. I wasn’t conscious of anything logical, not motivated by any hopes or expectations, or even attempt to find that pill.
I was in a highly altered state of consciousness. My body, or my higher self simply sensed it to be there within reach.
My protruded index finger landed pinpoint on top of the pill.
This was not a coincidence, or a memory retracing, there was zero conscious volition to find it.
I’m astonished that you so outright dismiss the phenomena of ESP.
When candyflipping, years ago, I never had a watch, phone, or way of telling the time.
Yet I would always amaze people by knowing the exact hour and minute. It was uncanny.
I am not trying to dismiss science. Courtroom was just a joking analogy. I like dramatic terminology which I use figuratively and not always entirely literally.
I still stand by my point. Yes science and being empirical, objective is vital.
But subjectivity will always have it’s place regarding drug experience and quality, whatever a scientific instrument tells us.
I’m down now from my acid. LSD doesn’t lead to being illogical and deluded, per se.
I have had hundreds of very real psychic experiences, seen things happening moments before they do, dreamt vividly of guests arriving moments before they unexpectedly show up at the doorbell, waking me up, so so much more.
I honestly would be very surprised if you would contest that such phenomenon do not exist, and insist that science must prove it or there is simply an entirely logical, 3D non paranormal explanation.
I wouldn’t even debate such a thing with any ESP atheist.
I appreciate not everybody has experienced genuine psychic ESP acts. For some people it is a common occurrence. But to insist it is not real is incredulous.
Now, no single scientific instrument I am aware of, could I have used to pinpoint the exact whereabouts of that lost Armani pill.
But my body in that lifetime rare level of elevated consciousness, in August 2000, just somehow knew the pill was very purely coincidentally within touching distance.
That was my point in one way. The mind and imagination is a very powerful tool.
One thing I can assure you, I am in no way a troll. And no, I never took the MAPB’s. But I read several detailed trip reports describing 6-MAPB as being more speedy, longer lasting, and more psychedelic than 5-MAPB.
