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What is the worst drug to have withdrawals from?

What is the worst drug to have withdrawals from?

  • Heroin

    Votes: 100 13.4%

  • Methadone

    Votes: 99 13.3%

  • Oxymorphone

    Votes: 27 3.6%

  • Tramadol

    Votes: 22 2.9%

  • Benzodiazepines

    Votes: 292 39.1%

  • GHB/GBL

    Votes: 20 2.7%

  • Alcohol

    Votes: 47 6.3%

  • Meth/Amphetamines

    Votes: 39 5.2%

  • Cocaine/Crack

    Votes: 13 1.7%

  • Ketamine

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • SSRI/SNRI/MAOI/TCA/TeCA antidepressants

    Votes: 21 2.8%

  • Other Opiates/Opioids

    Votes: 65 8.7%
  • Total voters
    746
Meth novice 79 said:
The only physical withdrawal I’ve ever experienced was from opiates.
That’s a bitch.
The gut cramps, diarrhoea, hot and cold flushed and the BUCKETS of sweat.
Yuck

I still use occasionally when I can con my doc into a script but I always take a decent break in between now cos I never want to do that again
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I know what you mean. You'd think going through it once would make me want to never touch it again. And for a while, it was like that. Recently I've been a bad boy and I know a horrible withdrawal is coming to claim my soul soon. So frustrating lol
 
GetMeOutOfThisCRAP said:
I know what you mean. You'd think going through it once would make me want to never touch it again. And for a while, it was like that. Recently I've been a bad boy and I know a horrible withdrawal is coming to claim my soul soon. So frustrating lol
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Huge hugs to you!
Can you force yourself to taper down slowly?
Yeah I know. I never could either.
I just kept going til they were all gone and then went ‘fuck!’

Hard to ‘learn’ when it’s so damned easy to stay off your head 😂😂😂
 
opiates because it lasts for so fucking long and going cold turkey is hell. Crack ? thats a joke compared to opiate withdrawal and i would certainly know since i'm a very heavy user of both of these substances sure if you're in a fiending state and suddenly run out you're gonna want more but if you get it through your head from the start that when youre done, youre done but.. it does't work like this all the time, ive had two occasions where i've spent quite a few bucks while in fiend mode, not to mention wasted my coke pretty much, you don't need to smoke or bang coke every 2-5min and ofcourse the next day is gonna be one where, like all stimulants you'll be absolutely exhausted and not wana move, but compared to nausea/vomiting/sweating to death, yawning MY GOD THE YAWNING, sneezing, hot, cold, mentally imploding from opiate withdrawal?

but thats in terms of symptoms.... worst is alcohol and benzo because those are potentially very deadly depending on the circumstances, ive experienced alcohol withdrawal while cutting down from drinking a litre of liquor a day somtimes more, you genuinely aren't able to think straight, and if you go cold turkey, you end up sitting there sweating, staring at the wall feeling like your brain is melting away, forget even thinking, i couldn't function for a time without having 2-3 shots of liquor in a morning coffee or id drink a beer or two in quick succession to feel a sense of normality, because thats what withdrawal is, you habituate to a certain state and having a substance, and have to change your entire body, and if you want to do it quickly its painful no mtter what both mentally and physically. my thoughts go out to anyone in cold turkey withdrawal or in wd not by choice, i'm cutting down and its never been more difficult.
 
Had both sadly.

Background:

Drinking - 6 very strong European beers (8-9% alcohol per can) per day for 2 years (and 10+ years of weekend binge drinking before)
Opiates - Very strong kratom addiction (ongoing), no kratom extract but 10 full spoons of kratom per day for 2,5 years.


Result: The winner is alcohol, hands down. 3-4x times worse, but you know it's kratom, no heavy duty illegal opiates (would never try them, disgusting, especially the IV stuff, thought makes me puke).

Both are horrible, and very similar, alcohol has that added, strong sharper anxiety, panic, on the verge of seizure (never had an actual seizure luckily), not sleeping for days, aggression is stronger and you feel poisoned, like shit too, and you reek of alcohol too, bloated, ugly, fat alcoholic body. At least with opiates you leave a pretty and slim corpse ;) (lost 20+ kilos on kratom).

With alcohol, one beer doesn't even stop the withdrawal, you need to get really drunk twice, three times in a row to get completely rid of the anxiety (believe me I know, didn't quit at first try, 50 tries or more), with opiates one smaller dose ends the withdrawal. I had also worse depression with alcohol, but opiate wd lasted longer (now I take only 1-2 spoonfuls of kratom per day, one day kratom-free per week, still an addict not lying to myself, kratom is not a miracle cure is trading one addiction for another but significantly better one).

Alcohol is poison, opiates help (at least kratom) helps you live a better, happier life, just make sure to be smart, be humble, and never greedy (and have kratom in the house at all times if you are an addict.... :D, otherwise you get the wd)

UPDATE: I live with chronic fatigue syndrome (kratom helps a lot with that) and was diagnosed with depression and anxiety issues (but I don't have depression, it was all alcohol related).
 
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Without trying to be misleading, I'll say that alcohol is just because of the physical aspect. I've actually tried on purpose to get addicted to alcohol, but it didn't work. After a while I gave up trying because I felt weird, like my muscles were cramped and it felt toxic somehow. I drink but I gave up hard alcohol several years ago, just beer now

My body won't allow me to get addicted to opioids/opiates because of a natural tolerance. It goes up so fast I have to stop for three days every time I use any; they stop working. I can take some after two days off but I have to take double the amount to get the same effect. I want to be addicted to opioids/opiates just to see what it feels like, but my body seems resistant to that. I imagine it's a bad experience
 
"I've actually tried on purpose to get addicted to alcohol "
"I want to be addicted to opioids/opiates just to see what it feels like,"
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Are you an 9 year old? Or an mental patient? Is your life too good? Are you born into wealth, money, privilege so much of it that it addled your brain? (In that case just send me all your money), and if you are a little child (which you probably are) you shouldn't be here... Don't invite the devil, unless you want to die. We all get addicted because we are miserable, and can't get through life without these substances,, it's not "cool" or "fun"... Seriously, kids nowadays...
 
SimonTheSorcerer said:
"I've actually tried on purpose to get addicted to alcohol "
"I want to be addicted to opioids/opiates just to see what it feels like,"
:cautious:


Are you an 9 year old? Or an mental patient? Is your life too good? Are you born into wealth, money, privilege so much of it that it addled your brain? (In that case just send me all your money), and if you are a little child (which you probably are) you shouldn't be here... Don't invite the devil, unless you want to die. We all get addicted because we are miserable, and can't get through life without these substances,, it's not "cool" or "fun"... Seriously, kids nowadays...
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Send me all your dope. I'll test it for fentanyl
 
Alcohol and benzos are worse. I would say mainly the extreme anxiety, hallucinations and feeling like your going insane. Plus the constant threat of seizures make it worse imo.
 
I'd rather be so dopesick beyond recognition than to go through alcohol withdrawal any day of the year.

Opiates have that kind of depression that says, "use me or else I'll make you suffer for eternity!" But unless it's absurdly high doses of heroin/fent (because of dehydration) you'll always live. That's the silver lining...
 
Yeah, alcohol withdrawal is the worst shit I experienced ever. Its the most scariest shit ever. Lights and sound physically hurt is how fucked up it is.

Rather kick herion 100 times than kick this 6/7 year straight binge that I am kicking now. Never again, though.

The difference is you will get an opiate withdrawal just in a few weeks. You need to drink massive for YEARS to catch a real withdrawal. Have gone on 30 day binges in the past and never had an alcohol withdrawal. 30 days of H and you will withdrawal.

They are different and really can't be compared.

You are left wrecked after a serious alcohol withdrawal. Riddled with anxiety and fear.
 
Ease/quickness of dependence - opioids > benzos > alcohol
Severity of dependence (once gained) - alcohol > benzos > opioids

I have experienced all 3 several times

again, I feel like alcohol and benzos will always be worse due to the severity of the withdrawal.

I know heroin/fent withdrawal is hell. Oh, trust me I know, but I'd go thru that any day vs severe alcohol/benzo withdrawal. It's wayyyy more scary. Not even talking about seizures. The anxiety/hallucinations can be so intense you will want to die, and that's different IMO.
 
TheInvisibleStoner said:
Yeah, alcohol withdrawal is the worst shit I experienced ever. Its the most scariest shit ever. Lights and sound physically hurt is how fucked up it is.

Rather kick herion 100 times than kick this 6/7 year straight binge that I am kicking now. Never again, though.

The difference is you will get an opiate withdrawal just in a few weeks. You need to drink massive for YEARS to catch a real withdrawal. Have gone on 30 day binges in the past and never had an alcohol withdrawal. 30 days of H and you will withdrawal.

They are different and really can't be compared.

You are left wrecked after a serious alcohol withdrawal. Riddled with anxiety and fear.
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In a way I think one gets a bit desensitized to anxiety. After the brain thinking you're at the top of a tree or about to fall from a great height for every day scenarios that are totally harmless.. you kind of realize that you've lived all the other times and maybe the disconnect between real danger and envisioned one is okay. But then again these are just words and anxiety is a real and tangible thing.

Can I ask a question for alcoholics or ppl that struggled with it? The hangover is brutal. Is it just periods of intense grief that make someone bypass the beginning hangs because personally I absolutely can't stand alcohol hangovers. Call me a puss but it feels just like a very strong opiate withdrawal for a day :sick:
 
GetMeOutOfThisCRAP said:
In a way I think one gets a bit desensitized to anxiety. After the brain thinking you're at the top of a tree or about to fall from a great height for every day scenarios that are totally harmless.. you kind of realize that you've lived all the other times and maybe the disconnect between real danger and envisioned one is okay. But then again these are just words and anxiety is a real and tangible thing.

Can I ask a question for alcoholics or ppl that struggled with it? The hangover is brutal. Is it just periods of intense grief that make someone bypass the beginning hangs because personally I absolutely can't stand alcohol hangovers. Call me a puss but it feels just like a very strong opiate withdrawal for a day :sick:
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Id rather a hangover any day over opioid withdrawal.
 
SimonTheSorcerer said:
"I've actually tried on purpose to get addicted to alcohol "
"I want to be addicted to opioids/opiates just to see what it feels like,"
:cautious:


Are you an 9 year old? Or an mental patient? Is your life too good? Are you born into wealth, money, privilege so much of it that it addled your brain? (In that case just send me all your money), and if you are a little child (which you probably are) you shouldn't be here... Don't invite the devil, unless you want to die. We all get addicted because we are miserable, and can't get through life without these substances,, it's not "cool" or "fun"... Seriously, kids nowadays...
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Gormur said:
Send me all your dope. I'll test it for fentanyl
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It's not often these days that I literally laugh out loud. But this exchange: too much! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Ha. It's not funny in real life. The worst side effect I've gotten from daily oxycodone is amnesia, waking up not knowing where I was. Maybe I'm underestimating my body and if I took it for more than a couple months I would become used to it and get hooked. I guess I shouldn't have phrased it that way, oh well. It could be that all this is possible in theory but my body just isn't prone to becoming addicted. I have been addicted to benzodiazepines and that was no laughing matter, so I know what addiction feels like
 
Gormur said:
Ha. It's not funny in real life. The worst side effect I've gotten from daily oxycodone is amnesia, waking up not knowing where I was. Maybe I'm underestimating my body and if I took it for more than a couple months I would become used to it and get hooked. I guess I shouldn't have phrased it that way, oh well. It could be that all this is possible in theory but my body just isn't prone to becoming addicted. I have been addicted to benzodiazepines and that was no laughing matter, so I know what addiction feels like
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Just so that you know: it's not the ISSUE that was funny. Just the interaction between the two of you!

Believe it or not: genetics can play a part as far as I know. To the extent where they've checked none other than Ozzy Osbourne's genes out:

www.discovermagazine.com

Gene's Addiction, or Why Ozzy Osbourne Is Still Alive

Our genes might play a role in influencing who falls prey to addiction.
www.discovermagazine.com www.discovermagazine.com

(I assume this to be a credible source but it is the Internet of course) (although that being said there's more than one link or reference to this).
 
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Is a 2 mg buprenophine- naloxon cut in half twice a day a good withdrawal drug for me? Will it help me from my pain & withdrawal? Will I feel ok? Thanks
 
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