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🪘 Africa 🪘 What is the state of the African RC market?

TheLightBringer

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Im curious seeing as Europe + China seem to be the center of new RCs being produced and pumped out.

What is the state of RCs in Africa? Any country with a significant amount of clandestine labs or RC users? What RCs are popular in which countries? Are most RCs even banned in African countries?

The only evidence ive seen recently of RCs is ”Kush” in Sierra Leone supposedly containing synth noids, nitazenes and fentalogues

And also people doing ”Kat/Cat” in SA, I assume mephedrone
 
TheLightBringer said:
Im curious seeing as Europe + China seem to be the center of new RCs being produced and pumped out.

What is the state of RCs in Africa? Any country with a significant amount of clandestine labs or RC users? What RCs are popular in which countries? Are most RCs even banned in African countries?

The only evidence ive seen recently of RCs is ”Kush” in Sierra Leone supposedly containing synth noids, nitazenes and fentalogues

And also people doing ”Kat/Cat” in SA, I assume mephedrone
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Wasn't mephedrone chemically similar to the plant Kat, with similar effects also?

A Somali guy I met not long ago started talking about "kit kat". But clammed right up, when my interest expressed might have come across as a little too keen :\
 
Bleaney said:
Wasn't mephedrone chemically similar to the plant Kat, with similar effects also?

A Somali guy I met not long ago started talking about "kit kat". But clammed right up, when my interest expressed might have come across as a little too keen :\
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Well kind of, Khat contains Cathinone which is Mephedrone with 2 less methyl groups
Mephedrone = 4-Methyl-N-methyl-Cathinone
 
Not strictly RC, but is there still a huge mandrax problem in South Africa? I wouldn't mind if some of it was diverted here (love to sample it), but the favoured smoking ROA and the fact people often collapse immediately after a hit looks a little bit too grim.
 
@chris_p @Coffeeshroom

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Bleaney said:
Wasn't mephedrone chemically similar to the plant Kat, with similar effects also?

A Somali guy I met not long ago started talking about "kit kat". But clammed right up, when my interest expressed might have come across as a little too keen :\
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I think its derived from khat in the same way MDMA is derived from saffrole? Chewing the leaves causes stimulant effects, though I imagine much milder.
 
Shinji Ikari said:
@chris_p @Coffeeshroom

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I think its derived from khat in the same way MDMA is derived from saffrole? Chewing the leaves causes stimulant effects, though I imagine much milder.
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Making 4-MMC from Cathinone would be a real hassle, think people are currently going from 2-Bromo-4-methyl-Propiophenone last time I checked TheeHive 😅
Altough I think the ”OG” way used to be from 4-methyl-ephedrine but dont quote me on that
 
Yeah back in the day and don't quote me on this but back in the day it was or there version of 4-methyl-ephedrine method and later on the moved on to a methylcathinone type but over the years the potent Khat from the 2000's turn into drain cleaner shit you get on the street today. People barely ever use it anymore..
 
Coffeeshroom said:
Yeah back in the day and don't quote me on this but back in the day it was or there version of 4-methyl-ephedrine method and later on the moved on to a methylcathinone type but over the years the potent Khat from the 2000's turn into drain cleaner shit you get on the street today. People barely ever use it anymore..
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What RCs other than Mcat are common in SA? Only ever seen RC psychs being talked about in some niche groups.

Im guessing fentalogues and zenes just that people dont know they are consuming them?

I wonder if some clandestine chemists in africa will start mass producing old RCs that were never banned in africa
 
TheLightBringer said:
What RCs other than Mcat are common in SA? Only ever seen RC psychs being talked about in some niche groups.

Im guessing fentalogues and zenes just that people dont know they are consuming them?

I wonder if some clandestine chemists in africa will start mass producing old RCs that were never banned in africa
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I don't use RC's so honestly can't say but can say that our h is still free of fentanyl and zenes.

Someone I know who got busted and they always send whatever you got arrested for away for testing. And the batch he got was 63% Pure H and the rest the cutting agents but no other opioids or nitrazenes where found.

But also there are basically no real RC scene here or vendor or such unless you use the dark web and shit. And the khat here is only sold by dealers, where they get it from or who cooks or makes the shit I don't know. Lucky for I'm not into Stimson and they do t do me good.
 
Coffeeshroom said:
I don't use RC's so honestly can't say but can say that our h is still free of fentanyl and zenes.

Someone I know who got busted and they always send whatever you got arrested for away for testing. And the batch he got was 63% Pure H and the rest the cutting agents but no other opioids or nitrazenes where found.

But also there are basically no real RC scene here or vendor or such unless you use the dark web and shit. And the khat here is only sold by dealers, where they get it from or who cooks or makes the shit I don't know. Lucky for I'm not into Stimson and they do t do me good.
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Its fantastic that your H is still clean over there, same here in Sweden altough zenes have been popping up in pressed pills. Makes me worried that the end of clean H might be nearing europe too, I hope not…
 
Shinji Ikari said:
@chris_p @Coffeeshroom

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I think its derived from khat in the same way MDMA is derived from saffrole? Chewing the leaves causes stimulant effects, though I imagine much milder.
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Khat is not mild, and no precursor me thinks, it probably could be used as.
The fresh Shrubs or are they called Twig s, with the Cathinone,
are i guess not really like 4-MMC ?
Who knows the one RC i declined trying, sounded to good.

But between Cathinone and bk-MDMA, there is a certain resemblance.
The Cathinone colouring the effects, in basic it s just a Sloppy stimulant.
No way studying on it is a option, walking OK, lying fine. Recreation.

Like MDMA has some resemblence to dl-Amphetamine.
The Cathinones on one end of the spectrum mellow,
Amphetamines more on the in your face energetic side.

Cathinone was so sloppy, with which i refer to a sort drunken like feel.
Very unlike Speed. Loved those twigs, and the dealer s sad il-legalisation.

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They're certainly quite innovative

autorecyclingworld.com

Drug Made From CATs - A New Craze In The Congo

A new craze for a drug made from catalytic converters rattles authorities in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo.
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A new craze for a drug, known as ‘bombe’ is derived from crushing the ceramic honeycomb core of the converters and is rattling authorities in Kinshasa, triggering a campaign to stamp out the concoction and a related rash of car part thefts according to an article in autoblog.

In August, police rounded up and paraded around 100 alleged dealers and users of the drug called ‘bombe’ (meaning ‘powerful’ in the local Lingala language), following a call to action by Democratic Republic of Congo President Felix Tshisekedi.
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Coffeeshroom said:
I don't use RC's so honestly can't say but can say that our h is still free of fentanyl and zenes.

Someone I know who got busted and they always send whatever you got arrested for away for testing. And the batch he got was 63% Pure H and the rest the cutting agents but no other opioids or nitrazenes where found.

But also there are basically no real RC scene here or vendor or such unless you use the dark web and shit. And the khat here is only sold by dealers, where they get it from or who cooks or makes the shit I don't know. Lucky for I'm not into Stimson and they do t do me good.
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yeah heroin arriving in east africa is incredibly pure and potent. it's flooded. Khat is everywhere, cannabis too...
But RC ?
With the postal services you can forget DW !
You can find old school drugs for sure.. in open bar pharmacies or stolen humanitarian meds markets
 
GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
They're certainly quite innovative

autorecyclingworld.com

Drug Made From CATs - A New Craze In The Congo

A new craze for a drug made from catalytic converters rattles authorities in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo.
autorecyclingworld.com autorecyclingworld.com
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God damn, I wonder what theyre even getting high on? Seems like theyre just adding a bunch of metals and gunk from the catalytic converters, the article says they mix it with vitamin pills, sleeping pills and smoke it with tobacco.

If I were to guess its just a random mix of shit started by an uneducated rumor (similar to how people in South America or Sierra Leone add crushed up bones to drugs because they think it ”makes them higher”) and that the only thing getting them high are the ”sleeping pills” 🤔
 
KetWise said:
yeah heroin arriving in east africa is incredibly pure and potent. it's flooded. Khat is everywhere, cannabis too...
But RC ?
With the postal services you can forget DW !
You can find old school drugs for sure.. in open bar pharmacies or stolen humanitarian meds markets
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Luckily like I said I have no need for any RC's and the stuff I do want I can get very easy and is always the real deal so I'm happy with our drug scene here if you wanna call it that. Just hope it stays that way for however long I still need lol
 
Personally I would love to have some khat to munch in the morning, i seriously need waking up, my body is up but not my head.

I've recently changed gp surgery, I am scripted 90mg DHC Continus which did the trick in the main, but not overwhelming if you catch my drift, my new gp has decided I don't need them anymore and has drawn a plan to get me off completely, despite my protestations about the DHC keeping me in work for the last five years.

I've searched the clearnet with no success, now I'm thinking about kratom?

Sorry o/p for derailing the thread, could anyone tell me the most euphoric strain? or one that will wake me up with a bit of motivation for the morning? Thank you.

As you were folks.

Take care people.
 
Kratom strains are pretty much a meme, just buy whatever from a legit vendor. From what I understand, if you want stimulation rather than sedation you're better off sticking to lower doses. I've only ever dosed high so can't really speak from experience.

To be honest, if you're used to DHC then Kratom might be a bit of a disappointment. It isn't very strong at all.
 
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