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What is the most harmful drug?

IMO, it's mainly the attitude of the drug user that's important, not the drug.
 
with the exception of the addicting ones that make you wanna redose, i'd have to say 5-MeO-AMT. Tripping for 24 hours hard core with not the slightest conception of life, time, or myself.... i mean, thank God that shit went away, but I can only imagine what my brain has in store for me once i get older...
 
smithf3 said:
with the exception of the addicting ones that make you wanna redose, i'd have to say 5-MeO-AMT. Tripping for 24 hours hard core with not the slightest conception of life, time, or myself.... i mean, thank God that shit went away, but I can only imagine what my brain has in store for me once i get older...
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5-MeO-AMT (Serotonin's close synthetic twin)? Also the most rare to get (save by wholesale from China). Again the poison is the dose but statistically its usually heroin, cocaine, and some of the hardcore stimulants. Personally I would say MK-801, even if its not on the streets, just the fact it exists and causes Olney's lesions.
 
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As someone who's been using meth for 14 years, mostly IV, I feel the need to point out that you can't judge all by the most visible examples of a particular drug's users, regardless of what that drug is.
I'm a little off, but that's genetic, not environmental.;)
I have all my teeth, and rather nice they are. I'm strong, heathy, and at 130, certainly not starving.Don't mind my modesty, but I'm a young-looking, attractive woman at 31(did I really just type that?Ha.) Before moving to MS, I had a $26 dollar an hour job, with full benefits (after dropping out of school to pursue a short but brilliant career as a heroin junkie).
I choose to live a fringe lifestyle, but that suits my personality,and my former street-kid mentality. I am not an obvious drug user, visually. I think my tattoos are more harmful to my future than drugs.lol
Yes, the ones that 'fall', fall hard, but like any other drug, for every user who is an obvious mess, there are 3 in the shadows, living normal but secret lives.
In answer to the actual question, I'd have to say MDMA, because of its powerful effect on the brain and psyche, but mostly for the wild unpredictability of never knowing what you're actually getting.
 
sickboy1 said:
has to be krocodil
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Well that's not a drug per se it's a very poorly made cocktail of deadly chemicals in a attempt to make desomorphine which is actually as safe as any other opioid from what Ive read. So the problem is the way it's made by these people who are unfortunate enough to live in some poverty stricken Russian town. That's kinda like saying some homemade booze is dangerous because people occasionally mix bootleg alcohol with another more poisonous alcohol that makes people go blind and die :\

It's hard to say because many people use alot of drugs without any problems but others get totally fucked up. Of course with drugs like solvents it's kinda impossible to use them in a safe way
 
verso said:
And that's a sentiment shared by many a young person between the ages 18 - 25. It's frightening, really, but I understand it.
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I was thinking about this the other day. After my latest detox, someone in their 50's mentioned to me that they didn't understand why the last couple generations weren't frightened of dope the way hers was. Said when she was young, there was drugs and then there was heroin. They knew not to touch it.
I think, more than anything, it has to do with(as you mentioned) powerful, prescription painkillers. 80's more than anything else, in my area. What's so scary about a pill? And it's prescribed by a doctor. Most of my friends started out snorting oxy's.
They're fun, you do more, no money, a cheaper alternative exists, etc. We all know that story.
Of the 20 or so people I grew up with that were or are currently addicted to heroin, I'd say 15 of them wouldn't have ever started if not for painkillers paving the way. An actual gateway drug perhaps.
 
^exactly...when I started doing pain pills, I didn't even think you could get addicted to the ones we were all using then, hydros,percs...but then you wake up one day and like damn,why am I hot-cold...
I think opiates are close to the top, just for the sheer every 6-7hour sickness that returns...maybe not most harmful on your body, but on your psyche...
 
someone mentioned krokodil, and I agree

but as for common street drugs, I think meth is the worst for the individual user, and crack is the worst for the community
 
Depends on what a person believes makes a drug "harmful". There isn't only one correct answer here. In my opinion? The most harmful drug to each person is the one that makes them feel the best/gives the best high. That means you are very likey to get addicted and well... Here's where the problems start.
 
The Chemist said:
as far as effects- Datura.

anything in excess can be physically damaging.
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I'd agree that datura and the various tropane alkaloids are the most dangerous drugs to mess with health-wise (unless you like huffing some strange chemicals and end up dead very quickly). They essentially poison you and the experience and body load is usually always very bad to downright dangerous.
 
Alcohol and methamphetamine no doubt, alcohol is hard on just about every part of the body. Meth and really any upper are just plain hard on your body if used everyday. Think about it sleep is a very important function and any substance that stops one from sleeping is going to reek havoc after time.

I have been an opiate user for many years and anyone who tells me opiates are harmful to me I will somtimes tell them my age, you look at a hard core acoholic or meth or coke user and then an opiate user and usually the opiate user will look much younger. This can depend on a few things though, like is the opiate user eating and taking care of themselves ?

I have seen first hand the damage from alcohol and methamphetamine and I say these two are the worst drugs to abuse, but using them once a week I dont see much of a problem. As many would say anything is ok in moderation.
 
jamesmartin said:
Everyone's saying meth.

Was just wondering is it the actual methamp that is really bad for you or all the cuts in it ?
Cause I know people on desoxyn which is basically prescription meth . And these people seem alot better than street meth users
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It's not the cut(s) in meth, it's the lack of sleep, lack of eating, and the way you can go from being a casual/responsible user to a full blown tweaker in no time flat.
 
jamesmartin said:
Everyone's saying meth.

Was just wondering is it the actual methamp that is really bad for you or all the cuts in it ?
Cause I know people on desoxyn which is basically prescription meth . And these people seem alot better than street meth users
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I feel the need to answer a question you didn't really ask. There are different ~types~ of meth. The most common are red phosphorous, and lithium.
I might even amend my original answer to say that lith dope is the most harmful.
Perhaps some people think it's splitting hairs, but there is a world of difference. I'm not saying smoking/shooting phosphorous, iodine and (pseudo)ephedrine is good for you, but it's a hell of a lot better than battery acid.
I've used lith a couple times, and it feels dirtier, and on an average, I notice lith dope users tend to exhibit more of the stereotypes of meth users than phosphorous users, and there is even the subcategories of what goes into each recipe for both kinds of dope. Some meth is just inherently cleaner than others, and even as avid a user as I am, if no red p is available, I'll go without before I do lith. It really is just nasty stuff.
 
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