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What is the "darkest" psychedelic you've ever tried?

Mushrooms mixed with a few hits of "Scooby Snax" some kind of spice product. My trips are never dark unless I'm in a bad setting. But with the "spice" products getting stronger and stronger, there towards the end I could hit it once and it would make new freak out. Mixing the two did make me see things that I could never achieve with mushrooms alone, but it was very unpleasant with the panic attacks that accompanied the spice.

Salvia also put me into aw weird dimension that was very uncomfortable, but it wasnt as bad as the mushroom spice combo.
 
Marijuana hands down. I freak out every time I am on it... feel like I am losing control of my thoughts and actions, and see some weird shit. I can oddly handle LSD, and mescaline like a champ, but a a couple tokes and I am calling for an ambulance basically LOL ...
 
ive had dark trips on both lsd and shrooms...i dont think its the drug as much as it is your mind/world. you can see both heaven or hell on psychadelics.
 
Salvia will closeline your ass in an instant and fuck u up beyond anything else. But DXM can only be described as one thing. And thats dark. (Gross drug)
 
The dilemna for me is that even the darkest psychedelics I've tried have been some of the lightest as well. To answer the question, as far as.serotonergic psychedelics go mushrooms, 2c-e, DPT, and miprocin have gone dark on me as well as psilacetin but I think psilacetin is very benevolent overall so I don't feel comfortable adding that to the list. aMT has a sort of dark, shadowy vibe at high doses, not mentally but through the visuals but since my mind remains clearheaded and I feel so fucking amazing it never gets to me. Examples are seeing demonic faces in tiles, faces in pictures morph in disturbing ways like a babies face will turn into a baby devil, and when sitting in the dark the feeling of a prescence as well as dark smoke appear, sounds freaky but on aMT these things are interesting, fuck I <3 aMT!

Oh and how can I forget the darkest of all, 5-MEO-DMT, this drug was synthetic terror both times I tried it.... never again. As for "psychedelics" (quoted as I don't believe they are real psychedelics) MXE, salvia, DPH, and adderal had a dark side. Adderal made it's dark side apparent when I went through psychosis on a rediculous dose as a kid and was being attacked by hallucinations and shadow people.
 
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I don't find it hard to believe that any DOx chem can go dark, phens generally feel rather "cold" for me to begin with not too mention the extremely long durations, lot's of room for a deep and dark session.
 
Help?!?! said:
^So hard for me to believe considering it's called STP. It's one of my most wanted.
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DOM is legendary but I think its more because of its place in history, and because the only other thing around was TMA. If DOM 'came out' of the lab at the same time as DOC, DOB, and the 2C family...I have no doubt whatsoever that it would be at the bottom of the 'best of' list. The body element alone is the kiss of death...one thing that is consistent about DOM is nobody finds it relaxing. It is like sucking on an electric cord.
 
Hmmm really it's been sometime since I've looked at its reports I remember the majority being good or glowing. Also you were lucky enough to have R-DOM correct? Maybe you dosed to highly? Body electricity can be quite good in my experience if I recall correctly I'd get in with 2c-E on occasion and received it with DiPT plus DPT on IM MXE and it was ecstasy,

If I can recall correctly as well, your not a DOx kinda man anyways,right?
 
So many people saying lsd is the darkest, you are making me afraid to take acid for the first time :D but i can see what you mean, high dose of al lad could have gone terribly wrong and i dont even want to think whats full blown bad trip is like. I was lucky i could change the direction of the trip because in the beginning it was little scary..
 
Help?!?! said:
Hmmm really it's been sometime since I've looked at its reports I remember the majority being good or glowing. Also you were lucky enough to have R-DOM correct? Maybe you dosed to highly? Body electricity can be quite good in my experience if I recall correctly I'd get in with 2c-E on occasion and received it with DiPT plus DPT on IM MXE and it was ecstasy,

If I can recall correctly as well, your not a DOx kinda man anyways,right?
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I do have some (-)-DOM but I've never tried it. And I think it is safe to say I am not a DOx kinda guy. I actually only took 4mg of DOM too. I reached a solid ++ with that dose, maybe +++ during the peak...but it was still VERY strong.

I have some TMA-2, a single 40mg dose, that I will end up trying one day...and I'm pretty happy wrapping up my DOx experiences with that...unless some DOET ever comes my way.
 
bdomihizayka said:
Marijuana hands down. I freak out every time I am on it... feel like I am losing control of my thoughts and actions, and see some weird shit. I can oddly handle LSD, and mescaline like a champ, but a a couple tokes and I am calling for an ambulance basically LOL ...
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awww man I feel for ya. I once introduced a girlfriend to both MDMA & marijuana. She reckoned marijuana was one STRONG drug, compared to MDMA Lmao!

Help?!?! said:
^So hard for me to believe considering it's called STP. It's one of my most wanted.
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I always thought that, judging by the effects & because it's been around almost as long as STP, that the moniker STP might've been better applied to MDA, not some freakishy heavy dose of some massive long Doxx type psychedelic... Sure as hell sounds anythng but Serene, Tranquil & Peaceful, that's for sure...
 
I find it weird that someone mentioned alcohol+weed being dark or scary. For me alcohol completely removes any cannabis induced anxiety, but then I dont even get that.

Anyone knows what the reason behind the common phenomenom that people who were able to enjoy weed before gets paranoid nowadays?
 
morninggloryseed said:
I do have some (-)-DOM but I've never tried it. And I think it is safe to say I am not a DOx kinda guy. I actually only took 4mg of DOM too. I reached a solid ++ with that dose, maybe +++ during the peak...but it was still VERY strong.

I have some TMA-2, a single 40mg dose, that I will end up trying one day...and I'm pretty happy wrapping up my DOx experiences with that...unless some DOET ever comes my way.
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Would about DOEF? Also I knew I remembered you not liking DOxs, probably a strong reason you didn't like DOM. To bad you have (-)-DOM too some would kill for that. ;) ;)

I've never felt an ounce of fear from LSD and I've taken at least probably.....2.5mgs. It's the one psychedelic I have absolutely no fear of, much respect but hand me a ten strip of 100ug hits , as long as we're somewhere comfortable I'd wash it down in a second.
 
I think set and setting are definitely going to come into play a lot when talking about the "darkest" psychedelic you've ever tried.

One night I took just under an 8th of shrooms after having candyflipped on two geltabs and .2 of molly the night before (2 day music fest). That was definitely my darkest trip, but it was because I took molly and acid the day before.

During that trip I started crying uncontrollably for no noticeable reason. Then I felt like the entire city was filled with cigarette smoke and I couldn't get any fresh air so I took a shower. In the shower I had such bad thought loops I decided I would try to count up from 1 and see what number I could get to before thought loops got the best of me. I got to about 13 and only realized it a few minutes later when I remembered I tried to do it.
 
DementiaSavantPlus said:
Isn't it well understood that the "darkness" or "light" of a psychedelic drug is dependent on set and setting?

Having said that, I would consider salvia to be one conducive to darkness in my experience. I know now what it must feel like to be reincarnated as an inanimate object: to be a piece of furniture in a world made up of layers of one rubbery substance.
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Ha, I had a remarkably similar salvia experience. Coming back from very far away I found myself back in the room, but everything had been covered in layer upon layer of cheap nasty blue carpet.

I think it's worth adding that the troubling thing about salvia was the confusion. I had no idea what had happened to me. This is the common thread among the bad times I've had while intoxicated, lacking the ability to maintain a clarity of thought. Even when completely discombobulated on some psychedelic excursions there has been a peace and clarity that allows you to ride it. Despite the negative things people have to say about 5-meo-DMT for me this clarity was the saving grace. In the bad times with other substances my head was a mess and about the only thing coming through was "something's gone wrong".

So, the 'darkest' would be whatever produces the worst confusion with the trip.

The only other factor (aside from set and setting obviously) that could be considered inherantly 'dark' is when they just wear you out. I think this is where some people think 5-meo-AMT is a bad one, I always had fun, but by the time it started wearing off I felt like I'd run a marathon.
 
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