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What is the "darkest" psychedelic you've ever tried?

Not "psychedelic" in the traditional sense, but... the "darkest" trips I've experienced were had when combining alcohol and cannabis. It's like, by drinking alcohol, you're adding a type of fuel into your system. As it's building up, you are becoming less aware in certain ways, and more uninhibited. Then when weed is added, it's like lighting off the fuel, and the amount burned is proportional to the amount of pot taken. The alcohol continues to try and render certain parts of your mind unconscious, but the cannabis won't allow it. I've found myself crawling on my belly through the mud at 1:00 am in the morning, thinking people were spying on me with hidden cameras. Or I'd hear people's thoughts in my head. Or I'd think the laughing next door was aimed at me, that the people over there were watching me through a camera and having a good-old time. All while on the verge of puking.

Alcohol & cannabis can be a bad, bad combo. It's like giving yourself chemically-induced schizophrenia. The shit really only starts to hit the fan when you've taken 1 hit ^ the line though; before that it's all fun & games :\

Back when I used to pop CCCs, I'd have plenty of dark-themed imagery, like trains with huge teeth traveling across a barren desert, robots tearing through flesh, scratches being etched on my brain. But while the content was often "dark," the trips themselves really weren't, since I was usually having a nice time.

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but whose not say a high dose psychedelic isn't going to give you a dissociated experience?
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On my 2nd (and best) mushroom trip, I felt very disconnected from my body. Funny, it started out very dark, but ended very bright. *sigh* I love magic mushrooms <3
 
Oh yeah... gasoline, a.k.a.: petrol. Once again, not really a "psychedelic," but a trip nevertheless.

When I was 17 years old, I couldn't for the life of me find LSD or mushrooms, and I wanted to trip very badly. A family "friend" told me about gasoline, and about all the crazy experiences he had had on it. So being the desperate and reckless person I was, I tried huffing gasoline a total of 2 times.

The first time I didn't go very deep. I just felt like I was inside a very old container, and it was easy to imagine that I was inhaling the essences of ancient things like dinosaurs and extinct plants.

The second time I tried it, I told myself I was going to go all-out. I got an empty soda bottle, filled it with gas and took it out into the forest along with a sock. Lounging in a hammock, I would soak the sock in gas, and keep it pressed against my nose, breathing deeply. Pretty soon I was hearing this "cack! cack! cack!" sound over the trees, as if some sort of machine were running. In my head were looping clips of people saying things. One went, "hey, where's [exists]? I don't know, but he's not supposed to be!" I saw a series of dots representing my soul, and one was very, very low. Plenty of other insane things occurred, but I never had a full-on trip like my friend had described. It was total mind-death, and I completely agree with the people who say that the effects of inhalants (such as gas) are inseparable from nerve/brain damage.

The days after that trip were like being reborn. Two songs will always remind me of that experience: "Crazy on You" by Heart; "Hello Kitty Kat" by Smashing Pumpkins. I'm very lucky to have come out relatively OK :\
 
Isn't it well understood that the "darkness" or "light" of a psychedelic drug is dependent on set and setting?

Having said that, I would consider salvia to be one conducive to darkness in my experience. I know now what it must feel like to be reincarnated as an inanimate object: to be a piece of furniture in a world made up of layers of one rubbery substance.
 
There's mentions in pihkkal and tihkal of some being generaly dark and prone to produce anxiety, but these don't make it to the mass market.
 
am surprised salvia is showing up as often as it has. sounds like people aren't letting themselves loose to this respected lady.

i have unfortunately never done a psilocybin psilocin mushroom or analogue!! had many a chances, but i let setting select the timing.
still awaiting that magical day :) unless i go on and grab it on my own. guess it's about time..

i am going to second my own post on arylcyclohexylamines, i guess i have definitely felt evil-y powerful in the mania stages..

but really this thread has confuzzled me, setter set setting, defining of dark vs not, anxieties, auras, deleriants... urr durr know urr durr know
 
lsd dark? no way imho. i have always found lsd to be the most transparent psychedelic. any darkness you experience comes from yourself.
salvia on the other hand is definitely dark. i'd even call it wicked.
 
All psychedelics can be dark, even the lightest hearted ones. I once had a very challenging time on 25c-NBOMe which I have always considered to be the easiest psychedelic I ever experienced. My mistake was to become complacent about the need for safe setting and stable mindset.

Saying that, some psychedelics are prone to provide either the deepest darkness or the brightest light, depending on the mind you submerse them in. I would include LSD and high doses of mushrooms in this category.

As for salvia, I've only had one breakthrough on it and I never felt the need to touch it again. It was one of the most spiritually transcendent experiences of my life. I was in a beautiful place in India (setting), after a week long meditation retreat (set).
 
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yeah, it's probable a bit dose proportionate but some compounds in particular seem capable of producing the less-than-pleasant experience. I was always curious about DOM because of it's 60's name "Serenity Tranquility & Peace (STP)" but from many reports I've read including a few on BL recently, DOM seems anything but serene, tranquil & peaceful.
 
Although I only did a small amount, 5-MeO-DMT was very lifeless and uncomfortable. I had read people here saying it was like tuning your body into a static channel on the TV; nothing could be more true. Basically just kind of felt like I was dying--not in a fearful sense but like the life was being drained out of me. After a few minutes of that it left me groggy and uncoordinated. Would not recommend.
 
DMT and Salvia extracts have made me terrorized that my soul was being eternally massacred by the most evil thing this side of the other multiverse...
Mind you, i didn't show utmost respect at the time, so i can't complain that much.
 
The only time I've ever been truly terrified during a trip is when I quickly smoked a huge bowl of 20x salvia extract. Reality got torn away and this entity told me that I never existed in the first place and my life was an illusion. That my friends and family and I were just the figments of some other beings imagination. And that I was given this glimpse of self-realization as some sort of cosmic joke by him only to have them take it away once I'd realized how beautiful life is. It was very bizarre and unnerving. I'd smoked salvia numerous times before that and never had such a powerful experience. It kind of scared me away from the stuff, I haven't touched it since that day and gave the rest of what I had to a friend.
 
DPT is the darck sister of DMT.
Ketamine will put it in another level.
Dont take your usual DPT dose + usual K dose, it will be to much cause they potentiate each other greatly.
Sorting about 25mk DPT + 25 mg K is enough.
DPT like DMT is a very "in your face" psychedelic.
But with the help of K, it manage to help each other to find a straight way to take full control of you.
It hits fast and lasts as long as a salvia trip.
It dont makes you nuts like salvia because its not profond, just a short in your face darck stuff.
Can be kinda funy tbh.
 
2C-E made me want to die/kill myself.

2C-T-7 turned quite nasty through the bodyload as my abuse worsened.

Salvia was the most unpleasant.
 
I think a lot of psychedelics for me in the right doses and set and settings can produce dark themed trips. But the 1 that gets to me the most when it does happen is psilocybin mushrooms, will refuse to eat them unless i have some benzos on hand just in case now. Dissociatives can be dark to ime but i like it for some reason.
 
5-Meo-DMT is the Darth Vader of chemicals.

Always holds its deathgrip tightly on my neck and shows me the dark side!
 
DXM if it counts

otherwise i would say mushrooms can get pretty dark feeling

occasionally if i am on enough L and am listening to black sabbath things can get pretty evil, but usually its not scary just badass.
 
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