What is the best substance for a body high?

[AbusedTampon]

I know this sounds simple and/or stupidly naive, BUT I really want to what substance can produce the most profound body high WITHOUT intense psychedelic effects like DMT or Salvia(I know it's not technically psychedelic but it's a little too intense IMO.)

And I know disassociates like DXM, Ketamine, MXE, can produce body highs but I found complete dissociation a hit or miss AND kind of disappointing.

And also, is the body high caused by calcium channel blockers? Or is that irrelevant to a recreational body high?

I understand that the answer might be a little bias/opinion/experienced based but I'd still like the input ?

 

[pally pete]

Mdma

 

[namnoc16]

pussy

 

[AbusedTampon]

I should have been more specific, a body high as in a feeling of out of body or feeling like an inanimate object, not a physical warmth feeling like MDMA

 

[SKL]

I don't think that this kind of thread is allowed, but, barring heavy narcotics, and we don't go around advocating heavy narcotics to anyone ("...but it worked for me"-HST), anyone who tells you anything other than GHB is wrong

 

[AbusedTampon]

I can see the rush, especially with IV Dillies, as an intense body high, but it lasts like 20 seconds lol and more or less this is a hypothetical, and some what redunant question/thread.

 

[femaletrouble]

Poppers a good sniff and i melt away

 

[hangyourhead]

MDMA/MDA
MXE
Ketamine
IV hydromorphone
IV diacetylmorphine
Oxymorphone
Temazepam
Diazepam

 

[dopamimetic]

Salvia. But that's really weird crazy disturbing stuff.

What you're looking for is true dissociation. One of these very rare 3-MeO-PCXx substances sold back in 2012 or so - I just had 50mg's of each - was like a swirly psychedelic lucid dissociated rollercoaster.

Nitrous oxide maybe.

People take anticholinergics along with dissociatives to achieve such states but this is really not safer use. If you're brave, get some K and salvia. Should be pretty safe physically when you're having a good sitter, but a mental hell ride.