WHAT IS THE BEST RC STIMULANT TO SMOKE?? Just curious to hear peoples opinion on what is the best replacement for smoking meth, I know nothing is quite as good but does anything come close, I tried 4-fma but it don't taste to good and dirty's your pipe right up, is there anyway of cleaning it to make it taste smoother? Also tried MPA which tasted ok but wasn't very strong.
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What is the best rc stimulant to smoke??
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mydrugbuddy
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Taking all stims including non rc ones, the best would obviously be crack and meth, but i havent tried either, no availabilty here, id be wise to avoid them even if i did have the contacts.
After them, and out of the rc world, i would think it has to be MDPV. It vapes very well, as if it was made for vaping. The effects you get from vaping it are better than snorting it, or bombing it in a rizla. Though you can clearly feel it damaging your lungs, IME i get wheezing, and a horrible gurgling noise in my lungs on breathing, etc after a seeesion.
I dont do needles. But i gather you get the best effects that way, as with most everything (that's 'safe' to inject, as far as injecting can be called safe) else it seems.
After them, and out of the rc world, i would think it has to be MDPV. It vapes very well, as if it was made for vaping. The effects you get from vaping it are better than snorting it, or bombing it in a rizla. Though you can clearly feel it damaging your lungs, IME i get wheezing, and a horrible gurgling noise in my lungs on breathing, etc after a seeesion.
I dont do needles. But i gather you get the best effects that way, as with most everything (that's 'safe' to inject, as far as injecting can be called safe) else it seems.
Poster above me pretty much nailed it.
The one thing they neglected to mention is that MDPV (and its relatives) are notorious for producing psychosis pretty quickly for people when they binge. Let me tell you, that if you don't ALREADY know what it's like to be a paranoid schizophrenic, you don't want to find out. MDPV has the potential to show you.
a-pvp and a-pbp can work pretty similarly, in terms of high-vape-ability. Same risks and issues.
PentYLONE is a second cousin that IMO is a respectable stim. A tiny bit less crazy-making than its pyrrolidinyl cousins, it is still a very strong, respectable stim when pure. (But I have known one or two vendors to carry cut garbage)
The one thing they neglected to mention is that MDPV (and its relatives) are notorious for producing psychosis pretty quickly for people when they binge. Let me tell you, that if you don't ALREADY know what it's like to be a paranoid schizophrenic, you don't want to find out. MDPV has the potential to show you.
a-pvp and a-pbp can work pretty similarly, in terms of high-vape-ability. Same risks and issues.
PentYLONE is a second cousin that IMO is a respectable stim. A tiny bit less crazy-making than its pyrrolidinyl cousins, it is still a very strong, respectable stim when pure. (But I have known one or two vendors to carry cut garbage)
PS-- If you found 4-fma unsatisfying, also do not attempt 4-fa. You'll likely find the exact same results.
Orally 'tis winning, though. Low oral 4-fa is actually my functional stim of choice. Yeah, I'm that weirdo.
I have heard 2-fma is closer to "real meth." I can't tell you, because I've never really had "real meth." (except maybe once, in a dirty roll). I can say 2-fma is more "stimmy" than its cousins and does seem like it vapes just a little bit better. I did, however, expereince scary side effects with that one that I got with no other. Will not touch again.
Orally 'tis winning, though. Low oral 4-fa is actually my functional stim of choice. Yeah, I'm that weirdo.
I have heard 2-fma is closer to "real meth." I can't tell you, because I've never really had "real meth." (except maybe once, in a dirty roll). I can say 2-fma is more "stimmy" than its cousins and does seem like it vapes just a little bit better. I did, however, expereince scary side effects with that one that I got with no other. Will not touch again.
mydrugbuddy
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Dont think ive tried pentylone (i think i will add it to my list of ones to try), but i have tried pentedrone. I didnt vape the pentedrone, but bombed it in a rizla. It just felt like MDPVs little brother. Not too bad like, but definately not as potent as its big bad brother.
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mydrugbuddy
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not tried 2fa and cant find any sources for the fma varieties. Ive tried 4fa, i liked it a lot, but as im on SSRIs it doesnt mix too well. 3fa is also ok, but very fiendish for complulsive redosing. With both of these i bombed and snorted rather than vaped them.
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Never got ahold of p'drone. I heard it is much as you described it. I have heard that one can have nasty constriction issues, BP issues, etc. To be fair, pentylone does carry with it some minor side effects that become more apparent when taken to high doses, or combined with other stims. I will say that pentylone is probably the most "cocaine like" stim I've seen on the RC scene. (Never did get my hands on RT-111 or other tropane derivatives though).
Some minor vasoconstriction. Likely increase in BP, though how much I can't say (likely very dose-dependant adding one of the "lesser" pyrolidinyls mentioned above actually makes them more similar to MDPV, IMO.)
But that also causes heart-pounding like one does not get from peevee on its own, unless taken to extreme. (I always found that freebase MDPV rarely spiked HR to scary levels. It was usually a result of going WAY too far, or, messing up the on-the-spot-freebasing and accidentally vaporizing a half-based substance--You can tell, due to color, smell and taste even before the panic hits....ha)
I also noticed a kind of feeling of pressure in the head. Not like a headache. Just a minor pressure. Odd little sensation. Also felt like it did something weird to the throat, when it would drip. Almost numbing, but not quite....
Some minor vasoconstriction. Likely increase in BP, though how much I can't say (likely very dose-dependant adding one of the "lesser" pyrolidinyls mentioned above actually makes them more similar to MDPV, IMO.)
But that also causes heart-pounding like one does not get from peevee on its own, unless taken to extreme. (I always found that freebase MDPV rarely spiked HR to scary levels. It was usually a result of going WAY too far, or, messing up the on-the-spot-freebasing and accidentally vaporizing a half-based substance--You can tell, due to color, smell and taste even before the panic hits....ha)
I also noticed a kind of feeling of pressure in the head. Not like a headache. Just a minor pressure. Odd little sensation. Also felt like it did something weird to the throat, when it would drip. Almost numbing, but not quite....
mydrugbuddy
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I get palps from PV even at quite sensible doses now. I really should stop ordering it anymore. I dont take it very often these days, I've just had what i think is my third order this year arrive yesterday, and i really should make this one my last...
Got fuckin scary palps just from cutting a hedge on a moderate dose of PV yesterday. Dont fancy dying of a PV induced heart attack @ 41 years old 8(
Got fuckin scary palps just from cutting a hedge on a moderate dose of PV yesterday. Dont fancy dying of a PV induced heart attack @ 41 years old 8(
Znegative
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I would say MDPV. However, we don't really do these kind of topics here. OD is for harm reduction. There is really no way to responsibly say that any RC is okay to smoke, as they are research chemicals after all.
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