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What is the best product to take DXM in?

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phantomcosmonaut

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I thought this would be the most asked thing about DXM, but I guess not. What is the best preparation that one could buy and consume DXM in? I've pretty much narrowed it down to 3, but from here only someone experienced could tell me. Zicam (throat spray), any syrup containing only DXM, and gelcaps. I guess the only determining factors are: nausea, onset, general bad or good side effects. I have heard that even though gels are easier to swallow, they cause more nausea. But the syrup doesn't seem like it would sit well in the stomach either. The zicam does sound like the best out of the 3 but there has to be some reason why people don't use it too much. Nausea maybe? Poor absorption? I can't even find it in stores anyway but would still like to know.
 
Each use with gel-caps I've never felt ANY nausea , I'd go with that .I swear I can feel the syrup sitting in my stomach / taste it in my mouth still no matter how many times I rinse out my mouth and it's made me sick almost every time . ( And no , no other guanistaffen shit or however it's spelt either in it ). Caps imo
 
You want something with ONLY dextromethorphan as the active ingredient; aside from that it's just personal preference between gel caps, syrup, or tablets (or spray I suppose). Most people prefer the gel caps. The gel caps generally seem to cause quite a bit less nausea than the syrup.

If cost is an issue syrups tend to be cheapest, as you can get a generic/drugstore brand syrup for pretty cheap, and they are the most widely available. Gel caps may have less inactive ingredients, so you don't have to drink a bunch of high-fructose corn syrup or other crap found in the syrups. Tablets are harder to find, I haven't tried them (I think you just chew them or crush them and swallow).

To reduce nausea with the gel caps take them gradually instead of trying to swallow them all right away. Some people say eating a little something beforehand helps but other people disagree. I would say gels are harder to swallow than liquid, but a good technique is to take 4 at a time with some water, swish them around in your mouth and gulp them down, then wait a while and repeat until you've consumed your desired dose. The swishing around in the mouth gives a sense of fullness in your mouth which signals your throat to open wider.

I know you were talking about Zicam throat spray but thought I'd make it clear for anyone else who comes across this thread that Zicam liquid is a no-go. Zicam liquid has other shit in it than DXM - you would have to take dangerous amounts of APAP and guaifenesin to take a recreation amount of DXM. Zicam throat spray has DXM as the only active ingredient, but I think it would be gross (and expensive) to drink large quantities of the throat spray. I think most people like to go with the formulation that has the least amount of unnecessary inactive ingredients, hence the gel caps over syrups or throat sprays.

Erowid says:
Avoid BenylinTM brand products which seem to cause severe nausea. Avoid any product with castor oil.
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And here is their FAQ about DXM
 
There was a preparation of Zicam called Cough MAX. I'm not sure if anyone has used it, however they took it off the shelfs very quickly in my area. It was about 1 oz of fluid containing only DXM HBr, around 450mg. This stuff was the absolute shit in terms of DXM preparations, so if you can find that, then goddamn you're lucky. Other than that, robo-gels are the easiest to ingest because they don't have a flavor, but take longer to kick in than the syrup. Personally, and this is only me, I find the gel caps to be even more nauseating, for whatever reason i couldn't tell you. Smoking weed on the come up significantly reduces nausea. That and trying to take a nap during the onset will have you dripping your brains out in no time. If you could find some type of tablet with DXM HBr only, let me know because i'll be ordering some... Another option is Delsym cough syrup, although it contains DXM Polistirex, not HBr, so the dosage will need to be higher to achieve the same results. Delsym also takes longer to kick in (2-3 hours) and lasts a lot longer. Some people like it, others don't. I like both HBr and Polistirex, and have often taken a 3 oz bottle of delsym along with a bottle of gel caps. Doing it this way will have you tripping in about an hour and a half... all.. night.. long.
 
Delsym (DXM polystirex) gives the cleanest feeling IMO. its expensive but it's worth it. best tasting (bland so it's easy to swallow); limited nausea or in other words, it is easy on the stomach.
 
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Well I found something interesting, I remember reading about it somewhere when researching why, apparently (well at least from what i have heard), gels cause more nausea. Anyway, I went on the robitussin website and started researching each individual INACTIVE ingredient and comparing the syrup and gels. I found out that polyethylene glycol, which is used as a laxative, is present in only the gels. Many other chemicals are present in the gels and not the syrup, many of which do not seem like they would agree with our intestinal system. Based on this I'm going to have to try the syrup this time.
 
phantomcosmonaut said:
Well I found something interesting, I remember reading about it somewhere when researching why, apparently (well at least from what i have heard), gels cause more nausea. Anyway, I went on the robitussin website and started researching each individual INACTIVE ingredient and comparing the syrup and gels. I found out that polyethylene glycol, which is used as a laxative, is present in only the gels. Many other chemicals are present in the gels and not the syrup, many of which do not seem like they would agree with our intestinal system. Based on this I'm going to have to try the syrup this time.
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THANK YOU! I have been wondering why they make me more nauseas!
 
the only problem with gel caps, is thats how more people end up taking TOO much DXM. With the syrup, nobody in their right mind OD's cause they cant stomach more than a bottle haha. Gel Caps are easier to get out of hand cause their so easy to just pop a handful, so just keep the dxm intake at a safe level, like this

Oral DXM Dosages
Threshold unknown
Light 100 - 200 mg
Common 200 - 400 mg
Strong 300 - 600 mg
Heavy 600 - 1500 mg
Risk of Death 2,500 - 20,000 mg

Reference; http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_dose.shtml
 
opium said:
the only problem with gel caps, is thats how more people end up taking TOO much DXM. With the syrup, nobody in their right mind OD's cause they cant stomach more than a bottle haha. Gel Caps are easier to get out of hand cause their so easy to just pop a handful, so just keep the dxm intake at a safe level, like this

Oral DXM Dosages
Threshold unknown
Light 100 - 200 mg
Common 200 - 400 mg
Strong 300 - 600 mg
Heavy 600 - 1500 mg
Risk of Death 2,500 - 20,000 mg

Reference; http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_dose.shtml
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I need to take 600mg to even trip at a second plateau (no tolerance) and for a 3rd plateau I need about 750. I have ingested 2 bottles of Robitussin Cough + 1 bottle Vicks 44 Cough... LOL. It sucked but by the time i would have puked, reality wasn't a consideration so I never really experienced too much discomfort. If i ingest 1 bottle which is around 300-350mg if im not mistaken, i just get nasty horrible effects with no recreational value whatsoever. I used my dosage scale on a friend one time though and he got mad at me haha. It's really hard to judge.
 
Crashing said:
If you could find some type of tablet with DXM HBr only, let me know because i'll be ordering some...
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Other than Dexalone which I can't seem to find even online, I know there's a German (maybe netherlands or something) brand which is just pure DXM pills (not gels). I wish I could remember the name, or even find it anywhere online, I too would be ordering it.
 
Crashing said:
I need to take 600mg to even trip at a second plateau (no tolerance) and for a 3rd plateau I need about 750. I have ingested 2 bottles of Robitussin Cough + 1 bottle Vicks 44 Cough... LOL. It sucked but by the time i would have puked, reality wasn't a consideration so I never really experienced too much discomfort. If i ingest 1 bottle which is around 300-350mg if im not mistaken, i just get nasty horrible effects with no recreational value whatsoever. I used my dosage scale on a friend one time though and he got mad at me haha. It's really hard to judge.
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yeah after re-reading this myself it dosent seem right lol. all my friends drink like 3 bottles when they trip and im guessing thats much above what erowid suggests...never thought eroid would lie to me :( hahah
 
laCster said:
Delsym (DXM polystirex) gives the cleanest feeling IMO. its expensive but it's worth it. best tasting (bland so it's easy to swallow); limited nausea or in other words, it is easy on the stomach.
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I didnt think DXM polysterix gave even close to the same high as Hbr. Id just get a 20 pack of 15mg dxm gel caps and eat the whole box
 
Robitussin Cough Gels. 15mg DXM each, nothing else.
Also, Delsym. It's an extended release form of DXM that actually tastes pretty good. Be careful though, you need to dose much higher and the high lasts up to 24 hours.
 
Crashing said:
Personally, and this is only me, I find the gel caps to be even more nauseating,
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Yeah, nausea seems to vary greatly from person to person and brand to brand. Just for the majority of people I've talked to the gel caps seem to cause less nausea than the syrup. But YMMV of course.

phantomcosmonaut said:
I remember reading about it somewhere when researching why, apparently (well at least from what i have heard), gels cause more nausea. Anyway, I went on the robitussin website and started researching each individual INACTIVE ingredient and comparing the syrup and gels. I found out that polyethylene glycol, which is used as a laxative, is present in only the gels. Many other chemicals are present in the gels and not the syrup, many of which do not seem like they would agree with our intestinal system. Based on this I'm going to have to try the syrup this time.
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That's interesting. I was unable to find that page when I was searching. Where did you find it? There are also a lot of ingredients found in syrups that aren't in the gel caps, perhaps different people have different sensitivities when it comes to the inactive ingredients. The DXM itself can also cause nausea in some people.

opium said:
yeah after re-reading this myself it dosent seem right lol. all my friends drink like 3 bottles when they trip and im guessing thats much above what erowid suggests...never thought eroid would lie to me :( hahah
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I don't think Erowid is "lying". The effects of DXM vary SO much from person to person. For example I can easily get 2nd plateau effects from less than 50mg. Erowid is just trying to come up with rough averages for new users. Erowid also states that it varies a lot from person to person and from formulation to formulation. Regardless, it's better if they err on the low side with the doses than the high side, since you can always take more if you don't take enough but can't undo it if you take too much.
 
In my experience there is a strong "association factor" involving the nausea from different DXM formulations. At first I tried RoboMax Cough & the taste wasn't good, but it was bearable- only for the first couple of times. Eventually I developed such an aversion to the taste/smell that I had to hold my breath before I even opened the bottle because the smell made me gag. By then it was also a fight to hold it down waiting for effects.
Then I found Dexalone which caused no nausea (at first) and worked great. Then after a few uses that made me sick too. and so did any other softgel.
I also developed an aversion to whatever I used to chase my DXM doses with. I couldn't drink root beer for a long time.
The only form that caused the least nausea was pure DXM in capsules. Even that caused some nausea but I think it was absorbed faster so it didn't sit in the stomach.
 
I've just recently found out about Duract that is sold online, as its hard to buy in stores, but its a fast melting tablet that has 30mg dxm hbr as the only active ingredient. Has anyone used this product? It sounds very promising if its taken sublingually, wouldn't that lead to significantly reduced nausea and stomach discomfort. I'm quite thrilled to have found this product. What does anyone else think?
 
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