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What is the beauty in death?

I agree that 'beautiful' is the wrong word to describe death, but I lack a better alternative.

To the above two posters, i'm pretty sure most people here saying death is beautiful weren't talking about the physical aspects of it. Death can be ugly and full of pain, of course that is not beautiful.

But on more of a spiritual level, if you will, is where the 'beauty' in death shows. It's the unknown. It's the end, but at the same time it's the beginning. Weather you're reincarnated, sent to heaven, or recycled into this truly beautiful universe, it's the beginning.
 
beau·ty/ˈbyo͞otē/Noun
1. A combination of qualities, such as shape, color, or form, that pleases the aesthetic senses, esp. the sight.
2. A combination of qualities that pleases the intellect or moral sense
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I'm not sure I see the comparison to suicide with this? It sure isn't pleasing to any of my senses, nor does it have any moral sense.

Although, in a different way, the feeling after ego death is a very beautiful experience to me.
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
We're all going to die, we're all going to have ugly rotten corpses, or else get turned into ash. Nothing beautiful about any of it.
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for you.

it seems like such a trite platitude but "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". i think that is a fundamental truism and gets to the very heart of the subjective nature of existence.

some people look at art by somebody like eric fischl and are appalled and disgusted. others see beauty.
CoffeeDrinker said:
I'm with rangrz 100% and he has a world of perspective that I'm sure none of you "death iz purrty" crowd can even fathom.
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that's just snobbery. perhaps 'we' have a world of perspective that 'you' can't even fathom?

alasdair
 
Perhaps, but I was specifically talking about seeing death first had, or possibly even killing someone himself. Not just watching a mash-up of people jumping off bridges or out of windows, which I'm sure is traumatic in it's own right for some people, but it's not the same when there's no screen separating the viewer from the action.
You know "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"? Well you have to actually "behold" something to have an opinion on it IMO. All these accounts of the beauty of death seem to be made by people who are naive about its reality, or perhaps willfully in denial of it, even if that have experienced death first or second hand, they could still be in denial about its reality.
Rangrz seemed to not be in denial of anything, which is why I liked his attitude about it.

Everyone wants to talk about death, but refuse to talk about its physical aspects.

Might as well be talking about what's the beauty in faeries or mystical spaghetti monsters.

But like I said earlier, death is the ultimate "who gives a shit?"
We're going to live a certain amount of time on this earth, and then we'll die eventually, and life will go on. What you do in the face of that is something that puts your whole life into focus. For better or worse
 
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CoffeeDrinker said:
...these accounts of the beauty of death seem to be made by people who are naive about its reality, or perhaps willfully in denial of it, even if that have experienced death first or second hand, they could still be in denial about its reality.
Rangrz seemed to not be in denial of anything, which is why I liked his attitude about it.
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maybe they're not in denial at all. maybe they accept and embrace it for what they see it is. you seem to be saying you know better how they feel about the subject than they do...

alasdair
 
not at all. you seem to have decided that they're all in denial and rangrz is the only one who gets it. i'm saying there are other possibilities. that's all.

alasdair
 
that all the bad shit going on in this rotten civilization is no longer your problem,that must be beautifull experience except theres no consciousness to witness it

it must be like letting off huge fart that you have been holding for lifetime,
 
Fear of Death

Fear of death... i know for a fact many if not most people have this fear...

Besides giving me some philosophical or intellectualization idea about your own beliefs...(and your lack of fear of death because of your high spiritual prowess ugghh) and this not a debate about what happens after "death".. please people

How do people cope with death and dying? I know its part of life... but it seems im like always wondering i wonder what would happen if "x" died or "y died" or if i get some incurable disease and have 6 months to live..

i know we all die.. its part of life. .but its still a crazy thing ive been thinking about alot whats wrong with me..

it kinda scares me..

Perhaps this might be better in the dark side? idk..

But honestly i cant even cope with life alive so maybe in death I will have peace?
 
Have no fear in death.
Any suffering during life is only momentary.
The liberation through death is eternal.
Its just as beautiful as birth.
Find fascination with this process but dont worry over it.
Worry more about your actions during life.
Live in the now n only have faith in the future as it is in your hands.
 
cire113 said:
Fear of death... i know for a fact many if not most people have this fear...

Besides giving me some philosophical or intellectualization idea about your own beliefs...(and your lack of fear of death because of your high spiritual prowess ugghh) and this not a debate about what happens after "death".. please people

How do people cope with death and dying? I know its part of life... but it seems im like always wondering i wonder what would happen if "x" died or "y died" or if i get some incurable disease and have 6 months to live..

i know we all die.. its part of life. .but its still a crazy thing ive been thinking about alot whats wrong with me..

it kinda scares me..

Perhaps this might be better in the dark side? idk..

But honestly i cant even cope with life alive so maybe in death I will have peace?
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it scares me too and if anybody would tell you he isnt affraid to die he would lie,you may intelectualy reason with any logic why you should not fear death but deep in the core of your brain you have center there that manage self preservation and is source of fear,you may reason with this center with anything you want but you will still fear death like worst nightmare


fear of death is good,to survive... evolution makes this fear stronger with each generation becose carefull people live longer to spread their dna.These wannabe spiritual gurus talk whole life how death this and that why we dont need to fear it only to shit themselfs when their time come.
 
it scares me too and if anybody would tell you he isnt affraid to die he would lie
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i'm not afraid to die
i never lie

you should be aware that many people welcome death
 
vegan said:
i'm not afraid to die
i never lie

you should be aware that many people welcome death
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I believe you that you believe it but like I said,I doubt you will be like "fuck yeah! I am going to die!" if you was surrounded by blood thirsty people that were going to kill you very slowly.


thats like those suicide people jumping from building... for years they seek death and talk things like you that they arent afraid and what not but the first milisecond the start falling down from twelve store building they experience biggest fear human can feel and will do anything to survive,you arent first or last.If like to have cool image on internet that you are someone extra,someone that dont fear death then feel free to continue,btw I am the Spiderman
 
in my opinion you've got to be pretty crazy not to be afraid of death. there are ways to prepare or just simply come to peace with the fact your going to die.... ive been more accepting and calm about the fact im eventually gonna die after a heavy ego death DMT experience... and on the return of it (after realizing i hadnt actually died) i heard this angelic soothing voice "your gonna die one day, daniel...... but dont be scared........" it was fucking beautiful
 
accept what you cannot change.

having been in a few situations where life and death was a 50/50 chance, I'm cool with whatever happens.
 
I was in a near fatal car accident in February. As soon as I knew that I was going to crash, and there was nothing I could do, I felt this great sense of peace because I knew that I was finally going to die. My truck rolled 2.5 times and my head went straight through the driver side window. I never lost consciousness, and when the truck stopped sliding and I unbuckled my seat belt and climbed out the window I did not feel relieved. I was not thankful to be alive. I have been SO ANGRY at God ever since then for letting me live. I shouldn't be here. This should all have ended months ago. I should be dead and I don't want to be alive, but I'm not willing to do myself in. I am not afraid, and would welcome death if I was blessed with it. I'm fairly sure that my time here won't last much longer, and that there is something I'm supposed to do in the meantime, but I am not sure what it is. My life is nothing but pain. I hate it.
 
angry at god???? lol. it was chance, nothing more. you should not be dead. god hasn't let you live. things happen because of many different complex factors and chain of events which lead up to the moment. yes there is something you supposed to do in the meantime.... carry on living until you die.
 
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