What is the answer to life?

[alasdairm]

what if life isn't a question?

etc.

alasdair

 

[killarava2day]

Has any wit said 42 yet?

 

[Larr_E]

And what if life is the answer to a question gone wrong...

 

[L2R]

maybe it's my short sighteness but....

How can something be more than in a state of questioning it's own existence?

edit: Answer: the state of pure acceptance. But then, is that something I would really want? Total contented acceptance would kill the highs and lows we currently dramatically experience in life..... maybe

 

[Raas]

Okay, the answer of life:

Life is something very different. Very special. Very unique. This is obvious, i'm sure you've all thought of it... but never forget the significance that the existance of LIFE (Plants and animals) is. It's so incredibally unique, it hints that it was created by something just as incredible.

Life grows bigger and stronger over time. At one stage, I don't doubt we will spread it to other planets, and allow life to flow even stronger. If there is a God, this is surely in his plan.

Your role in life is obvious. Contribute your skills to help society progress and become stronger. Whether you're a manual worker, or a brain surgeon, in the bigger picture it's all just as relevent. Then you must find love and raise children, so life can continue. This is what you were programmed to do, if you don't find love or contribute to the world you will probably feel incomplete.

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Theory assumes we all live our lives to serve God. Like slaves. Hopefully he will thank us by giving some sort of afterlife (i doubt it though) those who go against Gods plan (Kill people (stopping life), or causing trouble in the world) would, assumably, be less eligable for an afterlife.

 

[yougene]

Theory assumes we all live our lives to serve God. Like slaves. Hopefully he will thank us by giving some sort of afterlife (i doubt it though) those who go against Gods plan (Kill people (stopping life), or causing trouble in the world) would, assumably, be less eligable for an afterlife.

In that perspective wouldn't "god" be the liable one for making creatures that go against his own plan. Going against gods plan is part of the plan. If there is a plan.

 

[Raas]

^ And to add to that, i'm sure God would also highly disaprove of recreational drugs. Using these chemicals that we're meant too earn through life, in the form of a pill. But... fuck him. and he did give us marijuana!

 

[Raas]

Sorry Yougene, the above post was meant to add to the one I just did.

I don't think God planned for immorality, and people to go against his plan. I believe these are mere inevitable repercussions of higher intelligence.

 

[yougene]

I don't think God planned for immorality, and people to go against his plan. I believe these are mere inevitable repercussions of higher intelligence.

So... Basically you are saying the construct is out of gods control to manipulate and change at will. He merely implemented what was possible for him to implement. Isn't it likely god knew of his/her/its limitations on creation, particulary "immorality" of higher intelligence.

And what/who created the construct that limits gods control over higher intelligence. What/Who is god's god?

 

[Larr_E]

How can anyone truely know te answers to any of lifes questions? And if you can never know the answers then isn't the question pointless? Yet I stress again what was the question in the first place? And let say you know the question and the answer, what then?



Dam I should be a filosofizer... %)

 

[psychoblast]

Is life a question? I thought it was a statement.

~psychoblast~

 

[yougene]

I alway thought life is a word

 

[Raas]

So... Basically you are saying the construct is out of gods control to manipulate and change at will. He merely implemented what was possible for him to implement. Isn't it likely god knew of his/her/its limitations on creation, particulary "immorality" of higher intelligence.

I...think...so... Judging by the world we live in, I don't think he would care for immorality. People who go against God's plan, are still the minority.

And what/who created the construct that limits gods control over higher intelligence. What/Who is god's god?

Well me and God are good mates. This is why I know all this.

He still has control over us, look at the world progressing... But don't be a slave to him, be a rebel, go against his plan, take lots of coke and DESTROY the WORLD! Be bigger than God!

 

[yougene]

I...think...so... Judging by the world we live in, I don't think he would care for immorality. People who go against God's plan, are still the minority.



Well me and God are good mates. This is why I know all this.

He still has control over us, look at the world progressing... But don't be a slave to him, be a rebel, go against his plan, take lots of coke and DESTROY the WORLD! Be bigger than God!

So now you are saying that he has control over us. So does that mean the people who are "going against god" are really just accomplishing god's will. Why are these people any less eligible for an after-life if one exists over other beings. Ultimately we are all pawns, in this perspective anyway...

 

[galahan]

"Doing drugs, lying, cheating, sinning, and being self centered all hurt yourself and the ones around you. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Everything you do has consequences."

Sort've like karma? Well, self-destructive activities DO have bad consequences. It's not the "there is an equal and opposite reaction" idea here. It's more causality. Actually, what you're saying is incredibly proposterous.[/QUOTE]

That’s what I was trying to say when I wrote it. "Self-destructive activities DO have bad consequences." Bad things happen to people who think that the consequences don't affect them.

If you eat cake or sweets, you get the consequence of getting sick. But if you eat strawberries, which taste as good as sweets to you, you get healthier.

I'm terribly sorry! I didn't factor in strawberries!

It seems to me that you are putting "sinning" as the main cause of bad consequences. Then, what is sinning exactly? Things that are accepted as "morally wrong"? Or actions that hurt yourself and others. I'll accept the latter, but now you're getting into a moral issue. If you want to talk about life objectively, then you must forget all that moral bullshit when you talk. Otherwise you're preaching moralistic ideas to others.

Adultery, or concentual sex between adults, as it is now called, is known to give you STD's. People who don't commit adultery don't get HIV, unless they got it through blood transfusion or from their parents.

Actions that are "moraly wrong" have consequences. You feel guilty because you have a built in device to know when you have done something bad called a concious.

I'm not preaching morals to others. What I wrote was just a rant I wrote for myself after a late night revalation. Then I decided to post it on bluelight.

"The only way to learn from your mistakes is through pain. The pain of a loved one or the pain in yourself can teach you about life. Change is pain. Change is good."

So, what you're saying is pain is good. But humans naturally move away from pain and towards pleasure. It's hedonism, and every organism follows it. But, you're saying that humans, perhaps life, moves towards the "negative" or "bad" spectrum of things, as we seek pleasure and not pain. I'd ask you to explain, but obviously you haven't thought about that.

Yeah... I obviously haven't experienced pleasure. Only through pain can we gain true understanding and strength. "No pain No gain."

"But, you're saying that humans, perhaps life, moves towards (pain)"

No I'm saying that humans learn through pain. Burn your hand on a stovetop and to don't touch the stove again. Animals, to a lesser extent, also posses the prime learning tool, pain.

So one is an idiot if they do not understand the value of a sunset

Yes, they do not appreciate life, they do not see the wonder of the world areound them and how everything works together.

Obviously I'm not only talking about sunsets here. I'm talking about truly appreciating the world and people around you.

 

[sexyanon]

galahan said:
Adultery, or concentual sex between adults, as it is now called, is known to give you STD's.

... LOL. That's incredibly hilarious. I'm hoping you're joking. Concentual sex isn't a sin after you've married, right? PS. You should meet my friend Trojan Man.

galahan said:
Actions that are "moraly wrong" have consequences. You feel guilty because you have a built in device to know when you have done something bad called a concious.

Oh really. You do know that moral systems are built in by what you're taught, it's not innate. How about slavery? The slave owners didn't feel guilty about whipping the slaves for not gathering enough corn. Oh, well I guess they were doing something "good." LOL...

galahan said:
Yeah... I obviously haven't experienced pleasure. Only through pain can we gain true understanding and strength. "No pain No gain."

I'm guessing the first sentence is sarcasm, even though you didn't add an emoticon emoting sarcasm. Oh, I guess I can agree with you a little bit. You learn from your mistakes. That's about it. You can also be educated so you don't have to go through pain.

galahan said:
No I'm saying that humans learn through pain. Burn your hand on a stovetop and to don't touch the stove again. Animals, to a lesser extent, also posses the prime learning tool, pain.

Mistakes... you can only learn from your mistakes by pain. Well sure. But that doesn't mean we need to make mistakes in order to have pleasure. I hope you can see the logic there, I don't feel like spelling it out for you.

galahan said:
Obviously I'm not only talking about sunsets here. I'm talking about truly appreciating the world and people around you.

"Love is necessary to hate and hate necessary for love." I'll use your logic against you, if you don't mind. So, you're saying you need the opposite for something to be true. Like here, where you need hate in order to have love.

Well, in order to appreciate something, you need to disparage something, or any other verb that's the opposite of appreciate. So, how do we appreciate the world and the people around us when we must disparage something? I guess we're all idiots then.

 

[punktuality]

But that doesn't mean we need to make mistakes in order to have pleasure.

Ahhh... but how would we be able to define what pleasure was if it was not for the existance of pain?

Something...like an emotion can only reach a pinnacle like "pleasure" or "pain" if there is a conciously acknowledged scale that the subject has experienced first hand. It's all about dualities and a yin-yang/taoist philosophy... you cant have one without the other...

 

[sexyanon]

punktuality said:
Ahhh... but how would we be able to define what pleasure was if it was not for the existance of pain?

Again, adjectives and nouns are very different. Adjectives need opposites in order to have meaning. Nouns do not.

Pleasure is related to opioids, while pain is related to the nervous system (not opioids). You can't feel happy without feeling sad, and you can't feel good without feeling bad. But you can feel the opioids running around in your brain. There's no need for pain then.

 

[psychoblast]

sexyanon, I think you may be oversimplifying the pleasure / pain process in the body.

I recently read that the body has pain receptors and pressure receptors but no pleasure receptors. So there are receptors that can ONLY feel pain. When not in pain, they are dormant. Then there are receptors that feel pressure and whether the person views the pressure as pleasant or unpleasant is subjective.

So, anyway, you can have some giant slimy worm crawl up your thigh and over your genitals and want to puke, think it is the most disgusting sensation imaginable. And then you can have a beautiful woman lick up your thigh and over your genitals and it can be the EXACT SAME PHYSICAL SENSATION. Exact same pressure, exact same speed, exact same wetness, exact same path. Identical touching, the only difference is your mental perception of the circumstances. One is greatly pleasurable, the other is greatly unpleasant.

Because pleasure is born in the brain, not in the flesh, a lot of people fail to maximize the amount of pleasure they are CAPABLE of feeling from being touched. It may be a factor in frigidity in women, for example.

~psychoblast~

 

[protovack]

Again, adjectives and nouns are very different. Adjectives need opposites in order to have meaning. Nouns do not.

Actually, nouns do need context to carry meaning. You need to be able to distinguish a person, place, or thing from the air around it, or from other such nouns.