What is MDMA like?

[TheLightBringer]

Well, that was something. It wasn’t as intense as I expected, but I underdosed. I only took 50mg,

Never bad to be too safe but id say you took too little for a full experience. I always tell first timers to take around 1,5mg/kg for a full experience but no more than 2mg/kg. Say you weigh 80kg id recommend between 120 - 160mg for a first time. You can always take more ur next time though

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

I think I’m the odd one here. I would recommend just feeling the MDMA experience, all by itself. Next time, you can think about pairing it.

yea - just smoke weed - they go great together

 

[Generation *DMT*]

In one word=ecstasy..

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

did you just come up with that yourself?

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Yet another fantastic arse from Mr.Krinkle

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Yet another fantastic arse from Mr.Krinkle

Zoom it! Puts some more emphazise on it.

But does someone know how comes that tested pills, powders and that so called super MDMA. All tested the same, but the last one was so different. It seemed as an other drug, it was 100 % tested MDMA, not shitting you. Super slow come up very long waves even the duration seemed longer. Also no fiending like with MDMA pills. It was not MDA or MDEA, just MDMA that behaved not like the commercial.

This was even before MehDMA excisted.

Supposedly it was made by a schooled Chemist in real a+ class lab. So the biggest difference was the tempo, coming up instead of kicking in. Waving slow decline. And also more akin to a psychedelic feel.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Zoom it! Puts some more emphazise on it.

I have done, many times

But does someone know how comes that tested pills, powders and that so called super MDMA. All tested the same, but the last one was so different. It seemed as an other drug, it was 100 % tested MDMA, not shitting you. Super slow come up very long waves even the duration seemed longer. Also no fiending like with MDMA pills. It was not MDA or MDEA, just MDMA that behaved not like the commercial.

This was even before MehDMA excisted.

Supposedly it was made by a schooled Chemist in real a+ class lab. So the biggest difference was the tempo, coming up instead of kicking in. Waving slow decline. And also more akin to a psychedelic feel.

No idea mate. None of us have.


All I know is that 'proper' MDMA to me is exactly as you describe - smooth come up, rolling waves of euphoria, quite psychedelic, no real desire to redose and a smooth come down.


What I refer to as meh, hits hard, comes on like a train, instant fiending for more, but gets nowhere. You don't hit that magical headspace, you just feel battered.

Don't get me wrong, I still fucking love the latter, it's just not as good as it should be.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I have done, many times



No idea mate. None of us have.


All I know is that 'proper' MDMA to me is exactly as you describe - smooth come up, rolling waves of euphoria, quite psychedelic, no real desire to redose and a smooth come down.


What I refer to as meh, hits hard, comes on like a train, instant fiending for more, but gets nowhere. You don't hit that magical headspace, you just feel battered.

Don't get me wrong, I still fucking love the latter, it's just not as good as it should be.

So in my land I can conclude, MehDMA has bin circling a long time.
Way before the theoretical reasons: changing of precursors, chirality, ....
But its bin there from the start ime, at least from late 80-ties.

Nice finally, for me, a satisfying logical answer. It just depends on the chemist. Looking at the scale ranging from your latter one and on the otherside the slow wave psychedelic like MDMA, ime it also had lesser of the forced talking of MehDMA, less shattered and stimulated.

And pills came in all shades inbetween, no clue why but a chemsit would probably know. But it does kinda insinuate dedication and perfection of the makers plays an important role. Not so much the starter materials, att they were all available, even safrol.

Well say goodbye to MDMA=MDMA, apperently not. Anyone ever did a wash to purify, and changed the Pharmakinetics and make it more like or even real MDMA?

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

So in my land I can conclude, MehDMA has bin circling a long time.
Way before the theoretical reasons: changing of precursors, chirality, ....
But its bin there from the start ime, at least from late 80-ties.

Nice finally, for me, a satisfying logical answer. It just depends on the chemist. Looking at the scale ranging from your latter one and on the otherside the slow wave psychedelic like MDMA, ime it also had lesser of the forced talking of MehDMA, less shattered and stimulated.

And pills came in all shades inbetween, no clue why but a chemsit would probably know. But it does kinda insinuate dedication and perfection of the makers plays an important role. Not so much the starter materials, att they were all available, even safrol.

Well say goodbye to MDMA=MDMA, apperently not. Anyone ever did a wash to purify, and changed the Pharmakinetics and make it more like or even real MDMA?

The way I see it mate (and this will no doubt have the organic chemists among us frothing at the mouth), is that chemistry is NOT an exact science. There are so many variables involved in trying to rearrange atoms that the best you can do is to find a method that works for you and attempt to replicate it everytime.


Therefore, chemical synthesis becomes more like cooking and is dependent upon the skill of the chef. A sausage can taste mediocre or fantastic, depending on how it's cooked, but it's still a sausage...


(awaits the inevitable onslaught from chem nerds)

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

Pragmatically and in everyday life it is definitely true. Even in the food industry the reality is that they don't list the occasional cockroaches that are grinded in there that no one noticed, in the ingredients.

I would say that chemistry might be exact science, but it is not exact practice. I read recently that even filtering 100,0000 % water is impossible.

 

[Didgital]

Hmm. For very first time, it's generally prudent to not mix substances so you can really learn about the effects of the drug on its own. Many people will say there is nothing like your very first roll.

That said nitrous and MDMA with my best friend was possibly the most euphoric moment of my life. I didn't even get a 2nd balloon, because I knew I would just be chasing that feeling.

 

[Didgital]

Hmm. For very first time, it's generally prudent to not mix substances so you can really learn about the effects of the drug on its own. Many people will say there is nothing like your very first roll.

That said nitrous and MDMA with my best friend was possibly the most euphoric moment of my life. I didn't even get a 2nd balloon, because I knew I would just be chasing that feeling.

 

[throwaway4benzos]

Hmm. For very first time, it's generally prudent to not mix substances so you can really learn about the effects of the drug on its own. Many people will say there is nothing like your very first roll.

That said nitrous and MDMA with my best friend was possibly the most euphoric moment of my life. I didn't even get a 2nd balloon, because I knew I would just be chasing that feeling.

Aha, I probably shouldn’t have mixed them. It definitely took away from the roll, even though I did so little MDMA. I was sitting there for almost two hours just doing nitrous, exactly as you said; chasing the high!

Well, you live and learn. Nitrous on its own is fun, but it was 10 times more enjoyable while on MDMA. I hadn’t even done whippets in almost 2 years before the MDMA, so I figured it would be a good time to try it again. Next time I take some (probably in about 3 months), I’ll only buy a 24-pack rather than a 615g tank, which is around 75...? I'll also take 100mg+ to really get the full experience.

 

[Fire&Water]

Supposedly it was made by a schooled Chemist in real a+ class lab. So the biggest difference was the tempo, coming up instead of kicking in. Waving slow decline. And also more akin to a psychedelic feel.

Again, not so much a psychedelia feel but more a
we are all one

the therapist prescribed described that feeling more than any other
(when they were still out to help in the early 80s)

early presses were close
a lot of them were great through the early 90s

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Again, not so much a psychedelia feel but more a
we are all one

the therapist prescribed described that feeling more than any other
(when they were still out to help in the early 80s)

early presses were close
a lot of them were great through the early 90s

That soo weird that apperently good MDMA feels a bit psychedelic. But it never gave OEV, CEV or mindfuck. So a akin to.

While on the commercially pills of which a part of was probably MehDMA-ish.
If you take enough (to much) you did get that MDA like OEV and headspace at the tail of the experience. .