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Hello everyone,

I recently got some MDMA crystals and am considering taking just over 100mg, which seems suitable for my weight. I’m also thinking about pairing it with nitrous. I originally bought a 615g tank to enhance the MDMA experience, but I ended up using it all about an hour ago. It’s easy to see why nitrous oxide is called hippy crack, the tank went by so fast! I don't think I’ve ever done that much nitrous at once.

For those with experience, what can I expect from an MDMA experience? I know there’s plenty of information out there, but I’d appreciate hearing some of your personal insights.

Thanks, everyone! ;)
 
first, you will be essentially incapacitated moaning bag of hot meat, and kinda vulnerable, there is a chance of high anxiety, so I suggest having good company or something capturing your attention around you, going alone to the bar without live music for example is not ideal in the comeup if you have not experience. After a while, even tho you are tripping, you can function just fine as long as you don't need to act sober or organized or something stupid, because you can't do that even if you were threatened with a gun. But functional in the sense that you might even find yourself indifferent to your common fears and do things you have not dared to do before. Your high is probably obvious to most people you have eye contact for 3 seconds, but you can function in the sense that you can deal with the necessities of having good time. Getting past the bouncers is probably your most relevant concern, but good bouncer might sense that you are not going to cause problems.

If you like weed, I strongly recommend consuming some after the peak, or if you feel daring, before dosing the molly. I have found molly kinda falling short after the peak without the herb, with herb one dose will be interesting for 5 hours at least. It is also neuroprotective, proven by studies.

Those +200 mg doses you can try later, will make you fucking wasted for ages, then, just so you know, it is also interesting but I don't recommend doing that regularly, just once in a while, it is not particularly healthy. I did 0,5 g once over 3 hours and I was so out of it, I thought that the fallen tree branch was a bicycle.
 
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Just over 100 mgs for first time is fine. 120 may be better but you could always go up 20 mgs next time.

As far as mixing it , do it alone bc you really feel everything.

After using weed many, many times 20 plus time at the peak with friends, it seems to blur the expirience. When I say weed , I mean thc cannabis. I find cbd cannabis smoked during the comeup makes things nicer, calmer, and a smoother transition into the expirience. Can always do thc weed the next day or maybe afterwards.
 
CBD, at least in higher doses, slows down MDMA metabolization, and, I am not sure in the lack of studies directly proving that, but it has been hypothesized, might lead to less of active metabolite called MDA. I am not sure but it might be that CBD inhibits certain liver enzymes disproportionately, which could lead to that kind of situation.

MDA commonly makes people fucking wasted, and its relative presence of metabolites gets higher when MDMA dose is increased, and it is thought, and maybe shown in studies too, I don't know, to be much more neurotoxic than MDMA. So, I am not advicing against CBD, anything but that, I just think you benefit of understanding better the patterns you might notice, so you could track down the reasons your roll rolled how it rolled, and find the best commodities for your tripping.

I think Innerpeaces advice is good; at least start the roll without weed, and maybe consider it on the comedown if you feel like it. There is no hurry, better to play safe, cannabis might add troubles. And there is always the next roll.
 
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Pissed_and_messed said:
first, you will be essentially incapacitated moaning bag of hot meat, and kinda vulnerable, there is a chance of high anxiety, so I suggest having good company or something capturing your attention around you, going alone to the bar without live music for example is not ideal in the comeup if you have not experience. After a while, even tho you are tripping, you can function just fine as long as you don't need to act sober or organized or something stupid, because you can't do that even if you were threatened with a gun. But functional in the sense that you might even find yourself indifferent to your common fears and do things you have not dared to do before. Your high is probably obvious to most people you have eye contact for 3 seconds, but you can function in the sense that you can deal with the necessities of having good time. Getting past the bouncers is probably your most relevant concern, but good bouncer might sense that you are not going to cause problems.

If you like weed, I strongly recommend consuming some after the peak, or if you feel daring, before dosing the molly. I have found molly kinda falling short after the peak without the herb, with herb one dose will be interesting for 5 hours at least. It is also neuroprotective, proven by studies.

Those +200 mg doses you can try later, will make you fucking wasted for ages, then, just so you know, it is also interesting but I don't recommend doing that regularly, just once in a while, it is not particularly healthy. I did 0,5 g once over 3 hours and I was so out of it, I thought that the fallen tree branch was a bicycle.
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This sounds very intriguing, I'll be taking it alone in the comfort of my apartment. Well, at least for the come up then I'll see how I am feeling and decide if I want to go out on it. I won't be smoking weed on it, I haven't gotten high in probably 16 months. I reached my weed quota a few years ago. I get all quiet on it, anxious, paranoid, etc, I find it to be too psychedelic & too nonfunctional nowadays. I can barely remember what weed was like when I used to enjoy it. I could probably smoke it in small amounts alone and be relatively fine, but in public, there is not a chance.

If things don’t go as planned and I’m not having a good time (though I’m optimistic given the name “ecstasy”), I’ll have benzos on hand to help calm me down if necessary.

It’s funny you mentioned that a small amount of MDMA metabolizes into MDA, because I also have a gram of that on hand.
 
Innerpeace said:
Just over 100 mgs for first time is fine. 120 may be better but you could always go up 20 mgs next time.

As far as mixing it , do it alone bc you really feel everything.

After using weed many, many times 20 plus time at the peak with friends, it seems to blur the expirience. When I say weed , I mean thc cannabis. I find cbd cannabis smoked during the comeup makes things nicer, calmer, and a smoother transition into the expirience. Can always do thc weed the next day or maybe afterwards.
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I won't be mixing it with anything besides some nitrous oxide. I am quite excited to see what all of this hype is about.
 
Lots of good info here already. Make sure you consume antioxidants (simple supplement will do, don’t need to take a bunch of pills I just use airborne chewables) at the tail end of the experience to negate the neurotoxic metabolites that form.

Also I’d hold off on the gas for the first roll. I personally think nitrous dulls the roll. But each to their own, once I start gas I can’t stop until I’m done for the night.

IME CBD will dull a roll a bit too. Edibles dull a roll as well. I smoke weed constantly but I try to ramp back my smoking a bit during.

Definitely let us know how it goes!

-GC
 
Im in agreement that its best to use nothing first time rolling. Have rolled 50 days, or nights,in my life, just a guess, and when this happens expirience comes in. Ideally Mdma or any empathogen many times, are best used solo, esp first few years using it, which are best uysed infrequent. Cbd doesnt cause a dull roll for me, thc, make it more choppy, or that thc feeling, which is nice, but mixed on the comeup im not a fan, after doing it many times.

Cbd is just something to smoke on, as I dont use tobacco, or anything else, and maybe caused more easiness before and during the roll, as its smoked after the pill is swallowed. If its you and female friend , somthing to do, that through expirience have found if anything it makes the roll a bit more pleasant. Its really not a big deal , and wouldnt recmmend it, unless one is advanced and likes to smoke during the comeup.

I back off thc and cbd, trips, dissos, except empathogens, and thats cbd only. Ive had this cbd in a glass jar , used to mix with thc, and now only use it with an empathogen, stored in a glass jar, its like a year old, only a gram or so left, and not buying any more untill this is used up. One thing cbd can be used is when a bad trip occurs with weed. I traded usual stash, which has never given any issues, same supllier for years now, traded thca with a buddy green crack, and had negative headspace, when I picked up a carry out, and a fat ugly lady sitting with an older guy, said hey how are you in a super negative tone.. I yelped back terrific, and was in negative headspace a whiles. Further, it passed, and I traded the weed back

This is your first time, can always try mixing something else another time. With all of us vets with empathogen expirience telling you for your first time do it solo, its wisdom in our words, and we want you to have the best possible expirience.
 
Pissed_and_messed said:
first, you will be essentially incapacitated moaning bag of hot meat, and kinda vulnerable, there is a chance of high anxiety, so I suggest having good company or something capturing your attention around you, going alone to the bar without live music for example is not ideal in the comeup if you have not experience. After a while, even tho you are tripping, you can function just fine as long as you don't need to act sober or organized or something stupid, because you can't do that even if you were threatened with a gun. But functional in the sense that you might even find yourself indifferent to your common fears and do things you have not dared to do before. Your high is probably obvious to most people you have eye contact for 3 seconds, but you can function in the sense that you can deal with the necessities of having good time. Getting past the bouncers is probably your most relevant concern, but good bouncer might sense that you are not going to cause problems.

If you like weed, I strongly recommend consuming some after the peak, or if you feel daring, before dosing the molly. I have found molly kinda falling short after the peak without the herb, with herb one dose will be interesting for 5 hours at least. It is also neuroprotective, proven by studies.

Those +200 mg doses you can try later, will make you fucking wasted for ages, then, just so you know, it is also interesting but I don't recommend doing that regularly, just once in a while, it is not particularly healthy. I did 0,5 g once over 3 hours and I was so out of it, I thought that the fallen tree branch was a bicycle.
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My first time was outside when it made its touchdown. Standing on a bridge overlookin NewYears firework. 2 others my gf an friend where with me and took the same dose but didnt experience this.

Well at that moment it kicked in I was sure it was the end, and I was gonna die. The feeling was kinda overwhelming, a 100 mg dose.
Friends stayed relaxed, lucky me as their fear response was def off. They chilled me with words, distracted me and some time later.
Still alive, the euphoric and emphatogenic effects overrid the anxiious come up. And all was good.
 
I'd echo the sentiment of just taking the mdma neat for a first time. No need to mix it with anything and better to get to know substance 'in the raw' initially. 100mg sounds a bit low to me though, 125-140mg sounds a lot better tbh. No more than 140 though, and no redose

Some light cannabis (or a benzo if you must) when you're coming down would be fine though (if cannabis agrees with you that is)
 
as with most of psychedelicks(although mdma is empatogenic) is important set and setting...short acting as for me-no more than 3 hours.... i have got use it always on concerts-ethnotribal or sort....that was far back in time.....more than 25 years have no even saw a pill E......and it was always great....fantastic memories......similar somehow to my connections with psychedelicks....yeh got only one bad trip from countless mushroom trips,but would not forget it all my life.....MDMA imo is great once a month....to break some boundaries related with communications with other people,to dance and enjoy life....after effects finished u can enjoy a joint or beer or two......as a first time stay at dose about 100mg,drink water......overall be careful.....there is a lethal cases even....be careful...like with every stuff
 
Nas47 said:
as with most of psychedelicks(although mdma is empatogenic) is important set and setting...short acting as for me-no more than 3 hours.... i have got use it always on concerts-ethnotribal or sort....that was far back in time.....more than 25 years have no even saw a pill E......and it was always great....fantastic memories......similar somehow to my connections with psychedelicks....yeh got only one bad trip from countless mushroom trips,but would not forget it all my life.....MDMA imo is great once a month....to break some boundaries related with communications with other people,to dance and enjoy life....after effects finished u can enjoy a joint or beer or two......as a first time stay at dose about 100mg,drink water......overall be careful.....there is a lethal cases even....be careful...like with every stuff
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gotta say - it's quite possible you would barely recognise it (E) thesedays as the same drug you had 25 years ago (but that's another topic and one that's been done to death on bl)
 
Well, that was something. It wasn’t as intense as I expected, but I underdosed. I only took 50mg, which I dissolved in water. A friend of mine, who isn’t very experienced with drugs, said it felt like an LSD trip for him, which spooked me a bit since I’m not a fan of long, intense trips anymore.

I watched a bit of "Superbad" during the come-up, blasted some hardstyle EDM, and went through my entire 615g nitrous tank within an hour and a half.

I’ll be taking more the next time I roll in a few months to see how much more magical it gets. But wow, talking on it was incredible. After finishing the nitrous tank, I FaceTimed a friend and chatted for over two hours. That was probably the best part, I was so unbelievably open.

The effects lasted about four hours. I took it at 7:00, and by 11:00, I was sober enough to drive. Overall, it was fun, but I wish I had taken more. I guess I’ll have to wait three months before I can try it again. Honestly, I’m glad I didn’t go out and party on it. I prefer going to bed at a normal time and avoiding the dehydration and sweating from those big party bars around here. It would've been a blast with a buddy or a significant other!

Stay safe, y’all, and thanks for the responses in this thread.
 
Real mdma to me was always similar to clean
microdot / blotter lsd without any chance of hallucinations, out of body,
no anxious come up
(not that it ever affected that way)

wearing your heart on your sleeve and in your throat

Id jump at the chance to have that again
 
garygroundwork said:
Good MDMA is probably the best feeling you can experience.

footnote-never had Heroin.
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It's way better than heroin.

For me, MDMA is like a synergistic mix of all other drugs resulting in sheer bliss.

It's a stimulant, a sedative, an hallucinogen, an empathogen, an entactogen, a deliriant, a dissociative and an orgasmatron.


All in one pill.


Or two...
 
Fire&Water said:
Real mdma to me was always similar to clean
microdot / blotter lsd without any chance of hallucinations, out of body,
no anxious come up
(not that it ever affected that way)

wearing your heart on your sleeve and in your throat

Id jump at the chance to have that again
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Noticed that to with other pills but especially the so called pharmaceutical quality MDMA powder.

That last one had a very slow come up, my first kiicked in within a minute, and was wavey just like psychedelics. It was a very odd experience, unlike any other MDMA although some came close.

MDA is also interesting, not very available att but some pills it was mixed with MDMA. And that gave really bizar roll's. It also lasts longer, so that was the moment it became noticeable. Weird make up on faces [Ziggy Stardust style], vessel like visuals on the wall, clouds of hair floathing through the air and stopping in the middle of a conversation. As the plot got lost. All shared by those who had taken them.
 
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