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Benzos What is an equivalent dose of sublingual midazolam to oral clonazepam, nitrazepam or diazepam for example.

Midazolam is also used for severe agitation.
Yeah but that is for either short term after some big traumatic incidence or in hospital settings. Lorazepam is also used for severe agitation and it is much easier to get prescribed.

But as I said I don't want to preach and I am first one that would allow individuals to legally acquire diamorphine if they prefer it to alchohol. Also, "level beneath", I am of a strong opinion that consumers of health care services should get much more say in deciding what medication suits them best. I only shared some thoughts about midazolam as a benzo of it is taken in similar way how would one use lorazepam or alprazolam. It's a heavy duty benzo with serious hypnotic effects that is also short acting and I would not use it until I tried lorazepam or alprazolam. But for the sleep you will hardly get better benzo. Again, I am not saying you're wrong @MedicinalUser247 , this is just my opinion based on experience from 20 years of heavy (prescription) use of benzodiazepines . And after all we have different genetic/epigenetic basis, medication use history and goals that we are trying to achieve. Hope I am not comming out as mr. know it all cause I assure you that it is not a way I would describe myself. If anything my "knowledge" is almost all from experience and surface level understanding of how benzodiazepines work.

Hope you all get what you need. Take care!
 
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So do you think it.l is my tolerance or that it's not my tolerance?
To be honest - I don't know. Nitrazepam is more similar to Diazepam with long duration and muscle relaxing properties...it is "more rounded, more typical" benzo and I heard lot of people liking it very much. I dont like it that much cause it doesn't feel as clean as diazepam. Regarding it's use as a hypnotic there is too much hsngover/day after effects. It is completely different feeling compared to midazolam.

It is always shown as being the same potency as diazepam and I found that it's muscle relaxing properties is quite strong. That only coupled with the duration and could make nitrazepam rated as enjoyable and strong benzo. Plus more hypnotic benzos seem to have better favourably in people who like to take benzodiazepines for recreational purposes. So on the paper it has all halmarks of the benzo that would be liked.

Midazolam on the other hand is completely different feeling. I feel it more clinical in it's use as a hypnotic. One moment your there writing post on BL 10 minutes after taking it and 30 minutes later you pass out. People with high tolerance to benzos tend to rate it higher in enjoyability as they are able to take 30mg and stay awake. But that's not what I am looking for from a hypnotic benzo. I just want to sleep.

In the end @Drag2019 you could be a great metaboliser of nitrazepam and it hits you fast and hard while you absorb less midazolsm than average person. Or you simply like nitrazepam much more than midazolam. As I said - I simply dont know...but am trying to guess. In the end it is a good thing that nitrazepam suits you better as peascription for it is much easier to ge compared to midazolam.
 
To be honest - I don't know. Nitrazepam is more similar to Diazepam with long duration and muscle relaxing properties...it is "more rounded, more typical" benzo and I heard lot of people liking it very much. I dont like it that much cause it doesn't feel as clean as diazepam. Regarding it's use as a hypnotic there is too much hsngover/day after effects. It is completely different feeling compared to midazolam.

It is always shown as being the same potency as diazepam and I found that it's muscle relaxing properties is quite strong. That only coupled with the duration and could make nitrazepam rated as enjoyable and strong benzo. Plus more hypnotic benzos seem to have better favourably in people who like to take benzodiazepines for recreational purposes. So on the paper it has all halmarks of the benzo that would be liked.

Midazolam on the other hand is completely different feeling. I feel it more clinical in it's use as a hypnotic. One moment your there writing post on BL 10 minutes after taking it and 30 minutes later you pass out. People with high tolerance to benzos tend to rate it higher in enjoyability as they are able to take 30mg and stay awake. But that's not what I am looking for from a hypnotic benzo. I just want to sleep.

In the end @Drag2019 you could be a great metaboliser of nitrazepam and it hits you fast and hard while you absorb less midazolsm than average person. Or you simply like nitrazepam much more than midazolam. As I said - I simply dont know...but am trying to guess. In the end it is a good thing that nitrazepam suits you better as peascription for it is much easier to ge compared to midazolam.
So Nitrazepam sounds quite hefty, less clean more Hypnotic. Maybe the only advantage a some what shorter hallive/ active state.
Diazepam i received 5 days 1-st 80 [overkill/ sleep whole day, woke all night]. Halved and so on to day 0 of Alcohol Detox.

Actually it worked better covering stopping & missin my deared MJ, which was required ! Urine control.
Its warm, hazey and lazy. Chills you, at a dose of 10-10-20, you get munchies just nothing of the stimulating,
social lubricating and creative enhancement. In concern to Alcohol little but making it somewhat tolerable and sleeping through it.
Especially getting me through the days in this sort mix of a jail and mental instuition. Total absurd, opposit of reality.

Fucked people, a few & staff clients to, and you see the mayority are reasonable like you.
No Weed but Diazepam kept dragging me through. Left day 17, I had enough. Went home.
Learning experience sort of commune, with a crew keeping guidance over you.

12 days [last UC] after the last day of intake [5 total] still feeling it and detectable in my urine as THC which I dindn t feel,
nor the HHC i took the last day.[still from the day before intake durin total abstinence ].
They do lab test on your urine to check for spikes in THC or Benzos a.o.,

Midazolam is the excact opposit very sharp curve hits you, your out. 4 hours pass and you wake again.
Bit like GHB, but then the non-recreative benzo version unlike Temazepam ime. Also hits hard short duration, but enjoyable.

So depends on your sleeping problem if fallin in is the only problem Midazolam could work.
The other 2 way to long and heavy i d prefer, the good old blister packed Etizolam.
Perfect it takes effect not to fast nor to long and wellrounded sleep duration, no groginess at reasonable dose.
And somewhat more gentle it seems and forgiving. Though that might just be its trap.

edit: last one was good sublingual and pure powder nasally avaiable. But you need measurement no eyeballin mg s ⚠️
A nosespray why didnt i figure that att.
 
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Sounds like a nasty spray they made, had on alike only it used IsoPropylAlcohol for its devestating spike.

to my surprise a other generic form doesn t use any type of Acohol or nasal congesting ingredient.

So no sting, no clogging. Without knowing the excact science,
their spray was based upon malto-dextrin and worked like a charm.
Didn t hurt and no clogging especially important for its intended use.
Epileptic/ Seizures.


Hmm sounds interesting....



@ Emkee_Reinvented I have thought maybe I metabolize far less Midazolam than the average person so I figured sublingual might be worth a shot but.it does taste awful like not as bad as Xanax but shit tastes bad bro lol.
 
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Checked for the generic wth Malto-Dextrin, unfindeable. But the failed formule containing benzylAlcohol, not IsoPropyl.

Cause of the sting and clogging most lightly, worthless spray. the other one worked as should.
Isn t it used it as a sort of matrix to enhance absorption ? Malto-Dextrin.
 
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Hmm sounds interesting....



@ Emkee_Reinvented I have thought maybe I metabolize far less Midazolam than the average person so I figured sublingual might be worth a shot but.it does taste awful like not as bad as Xanax but shit tastes bad bro lol.
Some do some don t care, rare but it happens Eizolam the taste and effects are perfect, so sublingual is no bother.
Except the whole pellet was arificuel blue and i subbed it just before going to the dentist.

open your mouth bright blue hue. But sublingualed Alparazolam and it bad tasting, also oral Zopiclone, metal taste next day thru and
as long as i sleep i don t care. But thats personal, cant sleep on Midazolam for example, to short acting or ... ?
 
I kinda like the harsh taste of midazolam. Great associations create wonderful hallucinations.


Lol I got a tiny roughly 3.5mg Tablet piece I broke off and I'm sublingually dosing as I type this & it's not that bad when under the influence of benzos already I took 20mg of Nitrazepam the usual therapeutic dose I take on top of the Midazolam to see if it makes me feel any different at all alongside it compared to by itself solo dolo lol.
 
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