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What Is A Speedball?

Lacey K has been around for a while, she isn't going to leave Bluelight anytime soon.

And Theodore, the difference between IV morphine and heroin is minimal - the only difference is a more rapid BBB penetration and the difference in time is milliseconds. Heroin is an INACTIVE substance, it is the morphine which gets you feelin' groovy. Any "huge" difference you talk of is subjective and varies from person to person. We have people on here that even think IV codeine is the best (elektra). Go figure.
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IV Morphine + Coke is the only substitute I'd consider for an H+C speedball, since they are essentially the same thing. I'd also consider any salt of coke (acetate, ascorbate, and hcl) as well though. It's essentially the same drug.

I mean one could argue that black tar heroin is really just morphine with a little heroin in it, rather than vice versa.

elektra has been around for a while, she really say that?
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Lacey K has been around for a while, she isn't going to leave Bluelight anytime soon.



IV Morphine + Coke is the only substitute I'd consider for an H+C speedball, since they are essentially the same thing. I'd also consider any salt of coke (acetate, ascorbate, and hcl) as well though. It's essentially the same drug.

I mean one could argue that black tar heroin is really just morphine with a little heroin in it, rather than vice versa.

elektra has been around for a while, she really say that?
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now you say that but before you told me i had no idea how different h+coke was from morphine+coke and that only two experiences i had with h weren't enough and that h+coke and morphine+coke were worlds apart. now you're contradicting yourself, wtf is this dude? :|
 
Whats that? information from the internet can be wrong? Knowing things for yourself from your own experience is important? huh? I cant hear you!
 
now you say that but before you told me i had no idea how different h+coke was from morphine+coke and that only two experiences i had with h weren't enough and that h+coke and morphine+coke were worlds apart. now you're contradicting yourself, wtf is this dude
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You're harder to understand than lacey k. Try again.
 
I think hes sayin he gets all his information from you, and he is as disappointed as a buncha retarded hippies would be if tim leary say "sorry guys, it was all a joke!" When you learn everything you know about drugs from online, you are crushed when all you gotta do is follow someone else, and then you find out that your beliefs you learned from them are misunderstood and you had it wrong, cuz like, how could you lead me wrong man?. like your dog dying or somethin.
 
I compared him to you because I have a really hard time understanding you alot of times too, so it doesn't really help that you of all people are the one to translate something I already didn't understand.

If something I said was incorrect, let me know. Otherwise you don't need to make a bunch of strange analogies to authors you've never read. I do recall a time where just about every post you made in the Legal forum was edited because they were so full of misinformation.

I never claimed to have injected morphine + cocaine, I've only done heroin + cocaine, if that clears anything up. I've stated that black tar heroin, which has high amounts of morphine and other opiates in it to be a substantially different high than east coast tan heroin, but that's all I've really said. Don't have much experience with actually injecting just morphine, but I've done enough heroin to know when the heroin has alot of morphine in it.
 
Aight, Ill put it in some "whitemans english" for you 8) ;)

The poster who has posted looks up to you. He is sad because he is naieve, and misunderstood something you said. He went around believing that thing that you said. Now he is upset because he sees that you said something else. He believed his misunderstoof version of your statement as fact, because he trusted you. Now, since he was actually believing wrong information but believed it simply because you said it, he thinks you let him down because of this. Kinda like since he said it, it must be true. apparently he thinks something you said was not true, and now hes sad, cuz he trusted everything you said. Or some crap like that. i dont know.

i dont really understand his posts either. Homeboy needs to make friends with a comma or some shit.
 
Aight, Ill put it in some "whitemans english" for you

i dont really understand his posts either. Homeboy needs to make friends with a comma or some shit.
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Haha. Why do we not get along ;/

I don't know what he may of misunderstood about me. I know I was just like him when I first joined (search: Injecting mushrooms, injecting oxycodone, creativerandom).

But I never contradict myself. Sometimes I'm wrong, and I'll be corrected by other posters and admit my mistake if I'm browsing the forums. But I don't contradict personal experiences for sure...
 
I dunno wtf you mean not understanding my posts. Like I said, re-read the thread? And I'm not sad or anything, you're the one's who aren't understanding because you haven't read the previous posts.
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i can't tell the difference between a morphine shot equaly dosed to H, really. so i'd agree that morphine and coke is also a speedball.


That's because you haven't done enough H. There are very big differences that occur just because of how it crosses the BBB. If you aren't able to tell the difference and claim to have done both at least 3 times, I think something isn't right with what you are saying...
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See, I said I couldn't tell the difference, he said I hadn't done enough H, later on I replied yes, I only shot H two times, one speedball and another plain H. Now on this other post he says:
IV Morphine + Coke is the only substitute I'd consider for an H+C speedball, since they are essentially the same thing. I'd also consider any salt of coke (acetate, ascorbate, and hcl) as well though. It's essentially the same drug.
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Which obviously puts himself into contradiction in regards to his other post. That's why I said "so now you're saying otherwise? (...)".
And on the above post he says:
But I never contradict myself.
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Throws in a total saying he NEVER contradicts himself, need I say more?

This is from laceyk:
I think hes sayin he gets all his information from you, and he is as disappointed as a buncha retarded hippies would be if tim leary say "sorry guys, it was all a joke!" When you learn everything you know about drugs from online, you are crushed when all you gotta do is follow someone else, and then you find out that your beliefs you learned from them are misunderstood and you had it wrong, cuz like, how could you lead me wrong man?. like your dog dying or somethin.
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I do not only learn about drugs 'from' online, I'm not 'crushed' because I follow someone else, whatever you mean by that, I don't "follow" anyone. I'm done with you, I think I never came across someone so stupid.
 
lacey k said:
Ahh, finally we can agree on something. Right back atcha my friend. :)
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You do realize that you just confirmed what I said by placing a period there and not specifying further before the full stop? 'Ahh, finally we can agree on something.' The right back at you part is loose there. LMAO
 
Probably not even worth responding Lacey. He knows everything already. He knows what you're going to say next. He knows what I'm going to say next. Hell, he doesn't even have to read this because he already knows what it says. He's that smart. You just can't win.
 
LMAO.......Thanks to him this thread will prolly get closed instead of bein a post that people who actually come to this site to learn and not just hear what they want to hear could read to get some information. Oh well thats bluelight. But i do gotta say, seein someone who every single person knows is completely wrong and retarded make more and more of a fool of themself, while thinkin they are the shining knight in armor defending facts all over the world, did give me a good laugh.
 
narutokun said:
Lol, seriously, you can't be so retarded. Or maybe you can, whatever.

I've been asking that to myself, doing this is like talking to a wall.
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Check wikipedia for the definition of sarcasm.

It's amazing how far you can go without feeling ashamed of your general behaviour, lack of knowledge, no skills for provoking and on top of that we all are laughing at you.

I hope you continue keeping us entertaned.
 
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LivingOnValium said:
Check wikipedia for the definition of sarcasm.

It's amazing how far you can go without feeling ashamed of your general behaviour, lack of knowledge, no skills for provoking and on top of that we all are laughing at you.

I hope you continue keeping us entertaned.
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"entertaned" oh yeah baby! laugh at me "LOV" i'm loving it (maybe you didn't get what i have going on yet lmao)! I also love all the awesome advice you give on OD and the way you edit all of your posts right after you notice you are vomiting shit all over the boards. Oh hey! there's the sarcasm! I really had to look it up on wikepedia, because I TRULY had no idea what that word meant! OMG more sarcasm?! I am in deep shame right now because someone who can barely type is telling me that I have no 'skills for provoking' (oh wow i didn't know this was a good attribute!) and that I lack knowledge (don't bother with that kind of lame flaming =/ i get that a lot from older people when they feel what you felt righ there the "how come this brat understand more about this specific "thing" more than i do?!" feeling; i'm used to it). and no i wasn't talking about knowing more about speedballs! I'm sure you are teh ExPrEt and well as for laceyk, i already know she's the one who does it like it ain't no thang! 8(
 
The most hilarious part of you repeating that phrase for the 4th or 5th time in this thread ("like it aint no thang") is that the poster that said it is a friend of mine (well, whatever you consider someone you chat w.on this site). He wasnt supportin you. He wasnt agreein with you.

Listen, Iunno what the fuck shit youre talkin about people who can barely type, because the poster you quoted sounds pretty damn intelligent to me.

but I think bein able to grasp simple concepts and not talk like a 5 year old child whose over excited about the next pokemon show is a lil more important in the first place. maybe you can talk about grammar all day, but the fact that you want to argue a term that is WIDELY used and WIDELY understood to mean generally one basic thing by the entire drug community (well at least the ones who actually spend time in real life interactin with other people) shows your greater ignorance. Know what? I dont type great. I dont spell great. I really dont give a fuck what the hell you think about my typin, or whether i made a incomplete sentence or not. Nobody is impressed by you, "young brat who knows all this stuff" because you dont know all this stuff, you make it painfully obvious in your posts. You are takin delusion to a whole new level, mad props yo.
 
A snowball? Haribo1 wrote:

In the UK we have a close relative (or is it really just the same) cslled a snowball. Take smack & crack, add citric until they both dissolve, shoot.

Did anyone else have any experience with crack iv? Does the citric acid really dissolve the rock? I am planning on my first "Speedball" experience. I use "coke only" iv a few times a month and the coke here in the UK is usally not very good. Whenever crushed and dissolved the coke always leaves quite some waste material... As I have to use citric acid to cook up the H, I thought after reading Haribo1s thread, why not use crack instead of coke?


Regards, Body...
 
You should check out le junks coke purifying threads. I aint tryina plug him (Ok, on this site that means somethin totally different so i guess i mean "i aint advertising for him") but they tell alot.
maybe you should try and clean up your coke so you can shoot it instead of shootin rock. I know alot of people do and enjoy it but if youre worried about purity, it aint like crack aint got bakin soda in it n shit. Ya know?
 
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