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Opioids What is a safe Vicodin or Oxycodone amount for a first timer?

LILSTHEBASEDHOG

LILSTHEBASEDHOG

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Hello, some might remember me last night from asking about Percocet, but tonight I would like to try Vicodin, or Oxycodone.

I have some requests:
  1. What is more euphoric?
  2. What is safer?
  3. What one will be less addicting? (If that's even possible).
  4. What one will last longer?

I have taken 40 mg of Percocet, and I felt euphoric. Not super exciting, but I had a full stomach.
Vicodin: 5-500 mg
Oxycodone: 5 mg

Thanks for helping!
 
Oxycodone is percoset, bro.

Neither is "safer" but I'd consider oxycodone safer if I had to.

Go with the oxycodone!
 
XANAX XR said:
Oxycodone is percoset, bro.

Neither is "safer" but I'd consider oxycodone safer if I had to.

Go with the oxycodone!
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My understanding that Percocet was Oxy and Acetaminophen. This is just regular oxy. If it isn't much of a difference, then I'll stick with the Oxycodone.

I heard Vicodin is somewhat similar to heroin. I think it was like withdrawal symptoms... I don't know.

Thanks for the help.
 
LILSTHEBASEDHOG said:
My understanding that Percocet was Oxy and Acetaminophen. This is just regular oxy. If it isn't much of a difference, then I'll stick with the Oxycodone.

I heard Vicodin is somewhat similar to heroin. I think it was like withdrawal symptoms... I don't know.

Thanks for the help.
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Hydromorphone is similar to heroin, in terms of strength and rush, however, hydroCODONE is vicodin and it is nowhere near the euphoria, strength, nor rush as heroin.

You are right, percoset is oxycodone and acet. but that doesn't change the fact that it is oxycodone.
 
XANAX XR said:
Hydromorphone is similar to heroin, in terms of strength and rush, however, hydroCODONE is vicodin and it is nowhere near the euphoria, strength, nor rush as heroin.

You are right, percoset is oxycodone and acet. but that doesn't change the fact that it is oxycodone.
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Thanks for all the help, Xan. I appreciate it a lot. I just know that acet. is in Tylenol and it's a pain reliever. Nonsense rambling. Thanks again!
 
Vicodin (hydrocodone and paracetamol) is no more "like heroin" than is oxycodone. Oxycodone and hydrocodone are two different semi-synthetic opioid drugs. Heroin, oxy and hydro are all opioids, and they can all induce dependency and withdrawal if used often enough. Hydrocodone (and oxycodone) can produce just as bad withdrawals as heroin, it just matters how much and how often you use them. It's just that people that use heroin generally use a lot more than someone who just pops vicodins, so the WD is generally worse.

Oxycodone is generally considered to be about 1.5x stronger than hydrocodone, so 30mg hydro = 20mg oxy.
 
Most euphoric: Hydrocodone.
Safest: Oxycodone is available without APAP, whereas Hydrocodone preparations all (AFAIK) contain APAP. Thus, Oxy is arguably safer due to lack of excipients. Also, IV Hydro is fatal, IV Oxy is not as dangerous, just disappointing IME.
Both are highly addictive.
Both are relatively short-acting, with Hydro lasting about an hour or so longer.
 
SproutOnSmack said:
Most euphoric: Hydrocodone.
Safest: Oxycodone is available without APAP, whereas Hydrocodone preparations all (AFAIK) contain APAP. Thus, Oxy is arguably safer due to lack of excipients. Also, IV Hydro is fatal, IV Oxy is not as dangerous, just disappointing IME.
Both are highly addictive.
Both are relatively short-acting, with Hydro lasting about an hour or so longer.
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I take it tablets. I'm too big of a pussy to IV. So if I took it in tab form and about 20 mg total of hydro, I should be fine?

I feel like I won't get addicted since this is my second try with opiates, and most likely my last because after this, oxy is all I need to do, but I'm not really feeling it.
 
1. Preference. We don't know your body chemistry and how the drugs will hit you, some people get energy from oxy and some get a killer nod and feel very sleepy/sluggish.
2. neither is safe, hydrocodone is less potent. Oxycodone is more expensive which, can lead to addiction to progress for price reasons. It's like smoking mids vs dank (oxy being 1.5x-ish more potent)
3. opiates are disgustingly insidious, you don't know you're even becoming addicted until you're there.
4. Depends on ROA, should be about the same.

My advice is if opiates are interesting and appealing to you, avoid them. The curiosity always leads to more and more, because,

"well it was decent the first time but theres no way that's what everyone is raving about, there has to be more to it than this! I'll do it again, just so I know what it really feels like. Up dose. Hmm, well that was pretty good but I didn't nod out, wtf, I missed out on the best part. increase dose. Oh yeah man, that's nice, I like just chillin and enjoying this and being faced, ooh ahhh." Continues on in this way.

Edit. You're already making excuses, you felt the euphoria, but you had a full stomach, so it didn't count as your oxy experience. You gotta do it empty stomach so you get smacked, otherwise it doesn't count..right? What's the point of doing opiates if you don't do em to make it hit you the hardest, right?

That's how I justified taking more hydrocodone after my wisdom teeth got taken out. Well, shit, I'm already in pain so that doesn't count, I wanna take em and get high not just feel better.

Oh, well, I had my first meal since I can eat again so that didn't count.. Well, I built a bit of a tolerance and that's lame, so I guess my experience will have to be popping an roxy 30. Oh shit, I ate some food, well...I can just snort it so the food doesn't interfere, right?

6 months later, I'm on heroin.
 
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Brilliant post.

And if you do walk down this road, like many of us did with the very false same sense of security - good luck if you're ever in legitimate need of narcotic analgesics. When 80mg of Oxy isn't enough to reduce a headache...
 
LILSTHEBASEDHOG said:
Hello, some might remember me last night from asking about Percocet, but tonight I would like to try Vicodin, or Oxycodone.

I have some requests:
  1. What is more euphoric?
  2. What is safer?
  3. What one will be less addicting? (If that's even possible).
  4. What one will last longer?

I have taken 40 mg of Percocet, and I felt euphoric. Not super exciting, but I had a full stomach.
Vicodin: 5-500 mg
Oxycodone: 5 mg

Thanks for helping!
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As others have said, Percoset is oxycodone.

1) Oxycodone is, generally.
2) Safest is not fucking with either. Safer, relatively speaking, would probably be the vicodin.
3) Neither, Ive met plenty of pill addicts, tho Id say that due to financial reasons, those with oxy addictions have gone further down.
4) The oxy will, tho if you have a craptastic experience, this will not be a positive quality.

"This is just regular oxy.."

If you mean OPs, Id stay away from them for a first trip. They are time release, one that is hard to defeat. Roxicet are the instant release ones. ID your pills. Problem with extended or time release pills is that it makes gauging a dose extremely difficult. If you take too much, but not OD territory, you are going to be sick for a LONG time.

"I feel like I won't get addicted..."

The only way this wont happen is if you hate the trip or it sucks. Think about this: if you have an AWESOME experience, you're gonna want to repeat that, yes? Therein lies the problem.
 
There is no safest drug. Hydrocodone is the weaker of the two. PeroCets scientifically should be stronger, although some people (although I assume less) people prefer hydro. Hydromorphone is dilaudid..it's not even worth a damn unless you iv it. I would say start with 10 mg of either one, and take it from there.
 
Benwise said:
My advice is if opiates are interesting and appealing to you, avoid them. The curiosity always leads to more and more, because,

"well it was decent the first time but theres no way that's what everyone is raving about, there has to be more to it than this! I'll do it again, just so I know what it really feels like. Up dose. Hmm, well that was pretty good but I didn't nod out, wtf, I missed out on the best part. increase dose. Oh yeah man, that's nice, I like just chillin and enjoying this and being faced, ooh ahhh." Continues on in this way.

Edit. You're already making excuses, you felt the euphoria, but you had a full stomach, so it didn't count as your oxy experience. You gotta do it empty stomach so you get smacked, otherwise it doesn't count..right? What's the point of doing opiates if you don't do em to make it hit you the hardest, right?
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Oooookay.... lmao.
 
LILSTHEBASEDHOG said:
My understanding that Percocet was Oxy and Acetaminophen. This is just regular oxy. If it isn't much of a difference, then I'll stick with the Oxycodone.

I heard Vicodin is somewhat similar to heroin. I think it was like withdrawal symptoms... I don't know.

Thanks for the help.
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Yes, all opiates share the same class of withdrawal symptoms. Oxycodone is very similar to heroin as far as withdrawals go. But both percocet, oxycodone, and vicodin, all share similar withdrawal symptoms if you begin using daily and then stop abruptly.

PS.
Vicodin is 5mg hydrocodone, 500mg apap
Percocet is 5mg oxycodone, 500mg apap

Oxycodone is about twice as potent as hydrocodone.
 
pbuilder said:
Yes, all opiates share the same class of withdrawal symptoms. Oxycodone is very similar to heroin as far as withdrawals go. But both percocet, oxycodone, and vicodin, all share similar withdrawal symptoms if you begin using daily and then stop abruptly.

PS.
Vicodin is 5mg hydrocodone, 500mg apap
Percocet is 5mg oxycodone, 500mg apap

Oxycodone is about twice as potent as hydrocodone.
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The most helpful information that I've gotten. Thank you!
 
if i were you i would go with oxycodone NOT perocet, only because the tylenol in percocet could damage your liver.
oxycodone and hydrocodone(vicodin) are somewhat similar, but they do have different highs.
oxycodone is more of a mental euphoria, just a feeling a goodness. hydrocdone is more of a heavy body buzz.
oxycodone is slightly more addictive but there both very addicting. 40mg of percocet with no buzz? very strange.
 
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