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Opioids What is a safe Vicodin or Oxycodone amount for a first timer?

if i were you i would go with oxycodone NOT perocet, only because the tylenol in percocet could damage your liver.
oxycodone and hydrocodone(vicodin) are somewhat similar, but they do have different highs.
oxycodone is more of a mental euphoria, just a feeling a goodness. hydrocdone is more of a heavy body buzz.
oxycodone is slightly more addictive but there both very addicting. 40mg of percocet with no buzz? very strange.

Epiper, if you have any information since you're the only one who has noticed the 40 mg part. I feel like I have a really high tolerance to drugs and alcohol. I've never been baked out my mind after 4 bowls, not even a dab and a bowl. Can't get drunk until 8-10 shots of 40% Whiskey. I'm 5'10 and 155 lbs. I don't know why that I feel like drugs don't give me their full effect.
 
Epiper, if you have any information since you're the only one who has noticed the 40 mg part. I feel like I have a really high tolerance to drugs and alcohol. I've never been baked out my mind after 4 bowls, not even a dab and a bowl. Can't get drunk until 8-10 shots of 40% Whiskey. I'm 5'10 and 155 lbs. I don't know why that I feel like drugs don't give me their full effect.

Some people are just like that. It could be genetics. For me I usally get fucked up fairly easily. I have no idea why that happens to you. All I can say is stay safe and good luck.
 
Oxycodone is percoset, bro.

Neither is "safer" but I'd consider oxycodone safer if I had to.

Go with the oxycodone!

This.

Just take the lowest dose of either one. On other threads I have seen people reccomend a person who has never taken oxycodone or any sort of opiate at all to take 10mg, and it's better to take just 5mg of oxy at first for the first time until you know how you react to the drug. With Vicodin just take the lowest dose too.

If while on the oxy or hydro you smoke herb, both drugs will become synergistic and it's a nice combination. Don't drink though, take any benzos, or take any uppers/stimulants like Dexedrine/Adderall.

You posted about taking 40mg of Oxy, did you take that all at once? Or do you regularly take that much? That would be a very high dose to me but I don't fuck with any opiates at all now and never went over 10mg and would usually only take 5mg of oxy or hydro on the weekend once or maybe 3X a month at the most. But I'm damn lucky I didn't get addicted to them but I never had unlimited access to them.
 
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Their the same thing, go with oxy. They are both highly addictive and potentially dangerous if your reckless but harmless in the short term if you are at a safe dose. I started with 15mg for my first time and that will give a nice high. 20-30 will have you nodding, don't go over 30 on your first time you might throw up and 40+ is where it generally gets dangerous so go easy and see what your body can handle. As for duration and stuff the peak lasts maybe an hour And then you just feel chilled for a few hours after but the euphoria is short and it takes a decent amount of time to get there. Also bomb it (swallow in toilet paper or a rizzla) cause snorting is a waste though is you snort say 5-7mg while peaking it bumps it up for a little while and gives a slight rush. Also I would recommend not starting but you've already had loads of advice there so I won't pile on, good luck man, take it easy.
 
1st timer with Hydrocodone and Oxycodone.

Hydrocodone -

To feel euphoric and feel good, and euphoric without getting sick, I would recommend 15-20mg.
When i first started opiates, I also started on Hydrocodone, I took 2 10mg Norco's, which had 10mg of Hydrocodone and 325mg of Tylenol in each pill.
I felt VERYYY Euphoric on 20mg, had a very good 1st experience with hydrocodone. 20mg TO ME, felt like the right dose. BUT, everyone is different, I would honestly start at 10mg, if you dont feel anything after 45 mins to an hour, dose another 5-10mg. Remember this VERY important note, *YOU CAN ALWAYS DOSE MORE, BUT NOT LESS*

Oxycodone -

More potent than Hydrocodone FOR sure. 10mg of Oxycodone = 15mg Of Hydrocodone.
I don't recommend starting on Oxycodone, because it's too potent for a new user. If you do start on oxy, and try to take Hydrocodone after, you wont feel anything because your tolerance will be too high.

But if you do decide to, i dont recommend dosing over 10mg on your first dose. I GUARANTEE 10mg of Oxycodone will have any opiate naive person feeling REAL good.
 
Plus hydrocodone or percocet aren't only 5mg 500 apap they can be 2.5mg 5mg 7.5mg or 10mg. the apap can vary as well 325-650 although I heard they are making everything 325 now or soon because of liver damage.
 
I always preferred hydrocodone tbh. Better effects. The first time I ever did opiates, I chewed up an oc20 on an empty stomach and breathing became a conscious attempt, was vomiting every 20 minutes, etc. Stay safe and start out with ~10mg. There's not THAT much of a difference in potency. Smoke some weed; you'll have a good time. Just don't come back whining like a bitch if you got a life-destroying heroin habit within a year. KNOW what you're getting yourself into with this shit. It ain't pretty, but it is simultaneously a superficially beautiful escape to the clouds. Good luck.
 
1.What is more euphoric?
- oxycodone is easier to stay awake on while hydrocodone is a lot more sedating, both make you nod but hydrocodone makes it easier, depends what you like but in 80% of all cases oxycodone is the winner

2.What is safer?
- safest is whichever has the least amount of acetaminophen, otherwise pretty similar since they are almost equipotent however oxycodone depresses breathing slightly less yet noticeably so

3.What one will be less addicting? (If that's even possible).
- this depends if you are a recluse, introspective type that loves the nod (for me the nod is the entire reason for using) or if you love the upbeat, energetic, talkative part (usually this is the rush & can only be achieved via needles & smoking to a lesser degree). People that love the rush do more repeat, smaller doses in order to get the rush or the up feeling rather than a normal dose, when the nod comes on they usually do something to keep from nodding while others if they don't nod they don't get off. The people that like the rush claim they love the nod as well and I'm sure they welcome it but this precisely is the reason why there is a certain group of people that claim morphine to be the ultimate opioid from a list of 20+ other stronger opioids - b/c it offers the highest amount of sedation & nodding is the main event, while some people that IV Dilaudid/hydromorphone don't really welcome IV morphine nearly as much. Both oxy and hydro are semi synthetic opioid (you should know what that means) but oxy is definitively more uppy than hydro when taken oral.

4.What one will last longer?
- hydrocodone, assuming you are taking them orally

When I got my 1st 80mg oxy in 03' I didn't know you were supposed to remove the wax so I crushed up 40mg without a tolerance (remember thinking 'how the fuck do people snort this? but so many use it that it has to work') so even if it is true that the time release was found in the wax, with zero tolerance to opioids I had 40mg of oxycodone split into 4 lines with 2 in each nostril. With my last line I was thinking damn this is useless and ate a quarter (without chewing) and within 15min I knew I was high, very high.

First time I tried oxy was in the form of Percocet 5mg in 2001, after reading so much I took 1 5mg pill and waited half hour, then began increasingly convinced it wasn't enough once 40min passed so I got up from my couch and took another 5mg pill. As I stood up, by the time the 2nd pill was down my throat and before I lied on the couch again I was already feeling what I later found out was called the 'rush'. Honest to God, from an oral dose of 5mg without tolerance I was experiencing a mild rush but a rush nevertheless. As I was on the couch enjoying the powerful euphoric effects the 2nd pill kicked in which became apparent through an *extreme* fear of nodding of to sleep and not waking up (did I mention I was opioid naïve =D) so I put some Manson on to keep awake while surfing the web semi nodding, meanwhile euphoria was gone as I was overcome with fear and only when I was sure it had wore off did I go to sleep, still very, very high vouching never to take (at least) that much again. The very next day I took my 1st dose of the day 2 pills in one go, ever since it became my life mission to get ahold of oxycodone/Percocet, which didn't find until the oxycodone experience mentioned above due to one factor which blew my dreams out of the water...the cost which was/is $5 a piece but when I got my 1st oxycodone, an oxy 80 I got it from someone who sold both Percocet 5mg for $5 and oxycontin 80mg for $6, I got a job handing out flyers making $20-$30 every 1 or 2 weeks but it was more than enough for me to afford it...now whoever is reading it is probably laughing but the same response back then would be greeted as a sign of craziness, on your part lol

Living in Canada we don't have Vicodin nor do we get any hydrocodone pill forms/preparation at all and in over 10+ yrs of heavy use I've seen & used every opioid you can name but never seen Vicodin in Canada. Instead we get prescribed Tylenol 3 or Tylenol 4 which is used a lot like Vicodin in the states.
*All* my hydrocodone encounters have been via cough syrup which is the only preparation I have seen hydrocodone used during this time and I've gotten it from my family physician for severe coughs when codeine syrup wasn't enough.

Personally I prefer hydrocodone over oxycodone any day due to its longer and more sedating effects, both are euphoric but oxycodone especially if snorted I would more accurately describe as a relaxing stimulant.
 
Vicodin is the same as hydro codeine, kinda cheap. Only 5mg and contains Tylenol, the oxy is also 5mg, actually last night I snorted 12, 5mg oxycodone pills. 45mg and I was feeling great. I would go with the oxys
 
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