I have some 30mg morphine sulfate IR. Very little tolerance. I've ate about 60 mg in the last couple weeks. was thinking about shooting some. Have never shot anything so was just wondering what a safe dose is. I have a 27g needle, alcohol pads and sterile cotton. Thought about getting a smaller needle. Will be doing it by myself. Is 15mg too much? don't want to pass out. Just wanting to see what morphine sulfate is all about. This won't be a habit. Also i know i should use better filtration, but like i said just planning on doing one 30mg pill. I can understand if i was banging several times a day. I am very cautious. I sure this is frowned upon, but i'm going to do it, so just wanted some straight answers.
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limonov
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How much have you been taking to get high? You said you've taken 60mg over the last couple of weeks, do you mean you've been swallowing 60mgs a few times over the last couple of weeks or you've only used 60mgs recreationally over the last couple of weeks?
If you have no tolerance you'll probably want to IV no more than 10-15mg at a time- if I was in your shoes I'd extract the pill into 3ml of water and shoot 1ml at a time (3 x 10mg shots). You'll probably want to take some antihistamines- diphenhydramine/promethazine are good- as IV morphine has one of the strongest histamine responses of any opiate. Taking your dose incrementally is infinately safer than any 'safe dosage' I can give you, that's just a number I'm largely pulling out of my ass. It does hit immediately, but you'll want to give it a good 20-30 minutes between shots so that you can gauge how fucked you are after the initial rush is over.
If you can get wheel filters I'd strongly reccomend that you do so, but cotton or cigarette filters can be used. Apparently the woodbased cigarette filters (they're the 'blue' filters in NZ) are the best DIY filter as they are less likely to release particles into your solution (which causes 'cotton fever' and most dirty shots)- atleast that's what the needlebank here says, but sterile cotton is as good as a lot of people can get their hands on.
Do a lot of reading on how to properly shoot up- there are a lot of poor/dangerous technique used and advocated by a large percentage of IV drug users.
If you have no tolerance you'll probably want to IV no more than 10-15mg at a time- if I was in your shoes I'd extract the pill into 3ml of water and shoot 1ml at a time (3 x 10mg shots). You'll probably want to take some antihistamines- diphenhydramine/promethazine are good- as IV morphine has one of the strongest histamine responses of any opiate. Taking your dose incrementally is infinately safer than any 'safe dosage' I can give you, that's just a number I'm largely pulling out of my ass. It does hit immediately, but you'll want to give it a good 20-30 minutes between shots so that you can gauge how fucked you are after the initial rush is over.
If you can get wheel filters I'd strongly reccomend that you do so, but cotton or cigarette filters can be used. Apparently the woodbased cigarette filters (they're the 'blue' filters in NZ) are the best DIY filter as they are less likely to release particles into your solution (which causes 'cotton fever' and most dirty shots)- atleast that's what the needlebank here says, but sterile cotton is as good as a lot of people can get their hands on.
Do a lot of reading on how to properly shoot up- there are a lot of poor/dangerous technique used and advocated by a large percentage of IV drug users.
traybuck
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Do 15mgs it's much stronger when shot.orally your only getting 30% of the morp shooting your getting 100% be safe
limonov
Bluelighter
As I mentioned the Bioavilability of morphine is very low- so when you take 30mg of morphine orally less than 50% of it actually enters your system, and it does so gradually which reduces the recreational effects (while still working as an analgesic) further. In addition MS-contin are specifically designed to be released slowly.
However, just the fact that you get anything (even a weak buzz) means that you're still below what I call the 'codeine threshold' (equivilant to about 30mg morphine), codeine has a ceiling dose of around 400mg at which point it won't get any stronger. Most people who have taken opiates for any length of time, even without becoming addicted to opiates, accumulate a tolerance that makes it impossible for them to get high off codeine and necessitating the use of stronger opiates/more efficent ROA.
This means that 10-20mg IV should provide a decent rush/nod- IV morphine is about 3 times stronger than oral morphine in terms of analgesic equivilancy, but the fact that you're absorbing the entire dose in seconds not over hours (in the case of MScontin) means that it feels closer to 3-5 times the dose, with a shorter duration. I'll stand by my original advice- extract your pill as cleanly as you are able to (use the search engine/internets to learn how to best extract your particular pills) into 3 or 4ml and shoot 1ml at a time until you're happy with how high you are. In addition by breaking up your dose you can 'ride the rush' by having a booster shot as the rush starts to subside.
I also strongly reccomend that you take an antihistamine about a half an hour before you shoot up. Morphine can make you itch like a motherfucker and can also produce unpleasant pins and needles feelings on the back of the neck as well as the vein you shot it into becoming visibly red and irritated in a localised histamine reaction. The histamine reaction that morphine causes is essentially the reason why heroin is more desirable to most people than morphine, even though heroin is just a morphine prodrug.
Even if you only get a non-drowsy antihistamine, it reduces the itches to a manageabe level. Sometimes it can also temper the pins and needles so that they're not painful, but rather like a weird, very pleasurably acupuncture-massage.
Have fun and stay safe!
However, just the fact that you get anything (even a weak buzz) means that you're still below what I call the 'codeine threshold' (equivilant to about 30mg morphine), codeine has a ceiling dose of around 400mg at which point it won't get any stronger. Most people who have taken opiates for any length of time, even without becoming addicted to opiates, accumulate a tolerance that makes it impossible for them to get high off codeine and necessitating the use of stronger opiates/more efficent ROA.
This means that 10-20mg IV should provide a decent rush/nod- IV morphine is about 3 times stronger than oral morphine in terms of analgesic equivilancy, but the fact that you're absorbing the entire dose in seconds not over hours (in the case of MScontin) means that it feels closer to 3-5 times the dose, with a shorter duration. I'll stand by my original advice- extract your pill as cleanly as you are able to (use the search engine/internets to learn how to best extract your particular pills) into 3 or 4ml and shoot 1ml at a time until you're happy with how high you are. In addition by breaking up your dose you can 'ride the rush' by having a booster shot as the rush starts to subside.
I also strongly reccomend that you take an antihistamine about a half an hour before you shoot up. Morphine can make you itch like a motherfucker and can also produce unpleasant pins and needles feelings on the back of the neck as well as the vein you shot it into becoming visibly red and irritated in a localised histamine reaction. The histamine reaction that morphine causes is essentially the reason why heroin is more desirable to most people than morphine, even though heroin is just a morphine prodrug.
Even if you only get a non-drowsy antihistamine, it reduces the itches to a manageabe level. Sometimes it can also temper the pins and needles so that they're not painful, but rather like a weird, very pleasurably acupuncture-massage.
Have fun and stay safe!
Well i'd like to do it in one shot, because i don't want anyone to see the multiple marks. I just don't want to shoot 15mg then nod out for a couple hours to have my wife walk in on me or something. Also is the 27g needle fine or should i go smaller?
well i broke one up in half and attempted to shoot half. Well i botched it. doh. I don't know how but it registered. So i said f it and broke the other one down. I don't know but i think i wasted most of it. After putting the powder in the spoon i put a little water in. after putting the cotton in i didn't get much in the syringe. so i added more water and got too much. it was a 1cc syringe. i just shot it in my other arm and got a slight buzz. About as much as eating one. Ehh maybe it's not for me. I just wanted to get that real good kick i always hear about.
BrainstormWithJace
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with a wife buddy i wouldnt want you to go down the path of the needle maybe try plugging think it has higher bioavailbility then oral. good luck though buddy.
sekio
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Seeing as he's already injected it, I'd say you're a little late.
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