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What is a good psychedelic for re-entry after couple year break

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Hey everyone

I have taken a few year break from psychedelics and most substances in general. I currently have quite a collection that was built prior to my break. Past few years I have been dealing with big things in my life, particularly chronic pain that is now under control/dissipating. I am wondering what you think might be a good psych for some spiritual/psychological work and for re-entry into our favorite alternate worlds. combos are welcome and typically my ROA will be plugging. you just cant go back after your first booty bump %)

4-ho-met
4-aco-dmt
4-aco-mipt
DPT
DMT
5-meo-mipt
DiPT
2c-c
2c-d
2c-i
2c-e
2c-p
2c-t-2

Thanks
 
Hmm, 2C-E is obviously great for psychospiritual work, but for me, trying it after a similar length break was a bit overwhelming with uncomfortable bodyload. 2C-T-2 is great for personal work, not so much for spiritual in my experience but it would be a good re-introduction. Any strong tryptamine would be great for spiritual work as well and probably would be handled well by you given your experience. DOC is also a great re-introduction probably, a euphoric but serious substance. I don't know, it depends on preference. The fact that you have so much experience means you'll probably be fine with whatever.
 
I've only tried a few of the ones you've mentioned, but yeah totally depends what you're after.

Without that piece of information, I'd say a not-whopping dose of 2c-e, like 10mg or so, just because it's so damn gentle. It comes up so smoothly and gently it's a nice re-entry into psychedelic land. And 2c-e is quite warm and friendly, hard to imagine having a bad time on it.

Edit: sorry I didn't read your request closely enough, you said psycho-spiritual purposes! I think DPT is really good for that, but it's also not exactly a "fun" drug, it's a bit difficult in fact. 2C-E is a great friendly tool for that, grounded, kind and lucid. 4-AcO-DMT is pretty awesome, it's a good choice too.
 
For a gentle reintroduction to psychedelia, I'd go with 4-HO-MET, 4-AcO-MiPT, 2C-C, or 2C-D.
For more intense work, go for (4-AcO-)DMT, DPT, 2C-E, 2C-P, or 2C-T-2.
If you just wanna have fun, then 5-MeO-MiPT or 2C-I.
DiPT is a funny one, but if you take enough of it it can be spiritual and significant like its siblings DMT and DPT.

perpetualdawn said:
Without that piece of information, I'd say a not-whopping dose of 2c-e, like 10mg or so, just because it's so damn gentle. It comes up so smoothly and gently it's a nice re-entry into psychedelic land. And 2c-e is quite warm and friendly, hard to imagine having a bad time on it.
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Heh, "friendly" and "gentle" are not at all how I'd describe 2C-E....more like "harrowing" and "ball-busting" :p
 
I had a really unpleasant experience at 10mg once, but I was sitting in a hotel on a night when I had training for work across the country, and I ran out of kratom so was uncomfortable already. I also added 2mg with 10mg of 4-HO-MET relatively recently, in the last few months, and it was quite jangling, almost entirely the character of 2C-E rather than the 4-HO-MET.

But I've also had super smooth 2C-E trips... it's never been euphoric though, it always feels super neutral to me, exceedingly neutral. Which is wonderful for introspection. It's also intensely mathematical in nature, in concepts and in visuals.
 
I'd probably suggest 2C-D if you can get it. Its pretty mild in effect, is not especially potent (and more forgiving) and is short acting, which are some positive traits for re-entry into psychedelia. I've heard it described as 'soft', in both a positive and negative way- its not an inherently deep substance, but can become so when dosage is increased, and is pleasantly visual and stimulating. 2C-D the only 2C-x that I ever snorted semi-regularly; in fact, snorting became my only ROA, because of its forgiving nature. Some people have described it as tame, but I think its a really nice, pleasurable psychedelic...
 
This year I resumed using psychedelics after a four year break. My "re-entry" drug was LSZ and I loved the experience. So far in my experience LSZ seems a lot like a gentler/milder version of LSD. It doesn't take me quite as far, but it's an easier journey.
 
I would have to ask what kind of trip you are looking for. Of the ones I have tried, 2C-E is an obvious choice if you are looking for an introspective experience. It was my first psychedelic and it can be harsh but wonderfully rewarding in an awe inspiring kind of way. 2C-I can be pretty fun and easy going for the most part, maybe a little more emotionally involved, kind of playful. In the end it's really up to you what you feel you are most comfortable with. I would probably not try something you have not tried before to reintroduce yourself to psychedelics unless that is what you are looking for.
 
Xorkoth said:
I had a really unpleasant experience at 10mg once, but I was sitting in a hotel on a night when I had training for work across the country, and I ran out of kratom so was uncomfortable already. I also added 2mg with 10mg of 4-HO-MET relatively recently, in the last few months, and it was quite jangling, almost entirely the character of 2C-E rather than the 4-HO-MET.

But I've also had super smooth 2C-E trips... it's never been euphoric though, it always feels super neutral to me, exceedingly neutral. Which is wonderful for introspection. It's also intensely mathematical in nature, in concepts and in visuals.
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I guess 2C-E is like most any other psychedelic, in that YMMV. I have to admit I'm pretty new to it still, and it seems to cooperate with me quite well. For me, it's been euphoric but just gently so. I would totally agree about it being kind of mathematical, or technical in nature. On my first good dose of it, I felt like it was a technical flavoured mescaline.

I like how 2C-E is a bit of a wild card, or undetermined in it's function. A lot of the PDs we have formed stereotypes about, which for better or worse probably self-reinforce into the kinds of trips we have on them. 2C-E seems to defy pigeonhole, and I think Shulgin alluded to that too.
 
Xorkoth said:
I had a really unpleasant experience at 10mg once, but I was sitting in a hotel on a night when I had training for work across the country, and I ran out of kratom so was uncomfortable already. I also added 2mg with 10mg of 4-HO-MET relatively recently, in the last few months, and it was quite jangling, almost entirely the character of 2C-E rather than the 4-HO-MET.

But I've also had super smooth 2C-E trips... it's never been euphoric though, it always feels super neutral to me, exceedingly neutral. Which is wonderful for introspection. It's also intensely mathematical in nature, in concepts and in visuals.
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Shpongleton said:
I would have to ask what kind of trip you are looking for. Of the ones I have tried, 2C-E is an obvious choice if you are looking for an introspective experience. It was my first psychedelic and it can be harsh but wonderfully rewarding in an awe inspiring kind of way. 2C-I can be pretty fun and easy going for the most part, maybe a little more emotionally involved, kind of playful. In the end it's really up to you what you feel you are most comfortable with. I would probably not try something you have not tried before to reintroduce yourself to psychedelics unless that is what you are looking for.
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I would try something I have not tried before. I may work with a 2c-c + 2c-d combo or a 2c-e 18mg dose, which most of my friends have been taking and getting good +++ with no bad trips. 4-ho-met seems too giggly and euphoric for my taste right now and I think DPT/DiPT are just meant for other stages of this re-entry.

If I can get AL-LAD or some really fresh mushies, then I will pick those instantly. But if not, I think itll be 2c-c + 2c-d plugged at like 20mg 2C-C + 10mg 2C-D 60 minutes later (or however I am feeling). I will write a trip report soon :). I want something that has a body high and not too neutral but also not too vain (2c-e seems too neutral in a sense (another time) and may not be the vibration I am looking for and 4-ho-met may just be just too much swirling and hedonism). Thanks everyone. Nice to see you back posting around here Xorkoth.
 
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