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jeah

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after a bad encounter with the big C last night I am done. I pull my hair and pick my scalp till it bleeds. this has been a 19 year conquest of glory (I am 30). I suffer from impossible impule control. I drink about 6 beers every day. sometimes 12. I can't buy bourbon or hard liquor and haven't for 3 years. Horrible things always happen. Always.v I was put on benzodiazepines at the age of 19 and have been on them for 11 years straight. The only time I tried to come off I had a grand mal seizure. I love opiates so much that I can't even talk about them. blissful perfection. grew up in rave culture and partied very, very hard from 1999-2004. have done it all. all, all, all. everyday, everything. oh I smoke cigarettes of course. and my gabapentin... it gets staggered. right now I am prescribed 1600mg of gabapentin and 1.5 mg of alprazolam a day.

SO. I am also a double varsity letter for a big 6A school in central florida. parents divorced at 16. I have always cosedered myslef attractive, personable, affectionate but slighty dishonest. but not manipulative. one of the nicest most compassionate people. usually to a fault. more like naive, gullible and easilly persuaded. I was supposed to be some kind of math prodigy and use that for what I do in my spare time for $$. not much, like 10k a year for 3 years. I was in the mortgage industry for 5+ years until after the housing bubble. averaged 40k/year. spent at least 1/4mil on partying. at least. closer to 350k. most of that from 1999-2004. Just to add to that, I have a strange social problem and have had few friends, but they have all been amazing. I am a picky assshole sometimes and I'm not sure if I should be. I was engaged for 12 years, we broke up in July but are possibly getting back together after the holidays. We both have things to work on and she is ahead of me. she also does similar drugs but has much better impulse control about it. She has a regular office job at the local colllege. We have 2 great kids who are 5 and 2. They no longer live with me but I see them a lot. lots of strange paradox's in my life. as a matter of fact, nearly my entire life is.

When I am on (about 15 months total in the last 12 years) I am an extreme nutriotinal nut. take fish oil, NAC and occasionally eat a good multi-V. coQ10 3 times a week as well. cook right, do not drink soda, I don't even like desert. I eat lean protein, green leafy veggies, fruit and good complex carbs. no more milk but usually have yogurt for breakfast. I work out religiously, riding a bicycle 150-200 miles a week and work out 3X a week for an hour lifting weights. Music lover, have the TV. obv i know all about drugs. my 3 others are poker, sex and nutrition. besides useless trivia and some mortgage bullshit that's about all I know.

SO. I'm fucking quitting. everything. today. been 18 hours since I smoked a cigarette, drank a beer, picked at the scabs at my head. stopped pulling my hair out, big C, norco's, whatever. i am 100% done now. I am going to take my alpazolam and gabapentin exactly prescribed for a month or two until I get back in the groove. then going to try and get off that with valerian and probably another non GABA anticonvulsant. I MAY go to NA and do this there but there is too much bullshit politics and its a 15 mile drive. besides, I have been a member here since 2002(old SN was deleted).

so I cried, balled, completely balled for 3 hours. not my dad passing, my split with my family, NOTHING hit home like this. I just broke down and said enough. I am reaching out and I never do. please help, this is a monumental task. already ben to the gym going to cook pasta and hop on the bike for the 1st time in 4 months. 10 miles is a good goal but just going to enjoy myself. cooking pasta and talapia and then going for a ride. I still have a lot of potential IMO. but it's now or never. period. this is it.
 
its takes so much strength to come out and tell your story like this, much respect for that. im am not sure what you mean though by 'The Big C' ?

And NA is a slippery slope, it works for some people and dosent for others. Myself who is not so religious, it didnt work. They are firm on using god as a way into recovery, if that works for you, then go for it.

I think your asking on what things to do to better the recovery process? if so then some of then heres some things i did when coming off of an addiction to opiates and H.. always stay away from your stomping grounds.. if you have a problem with alcohol, try and stay away from the package store, unless you need to be in that area. And if the big c is a drug, then stay away from your dealer, dont meet up with him, dont do any of that. Dont go near where you used to buy.

And if your girlfriend? (whatever she is to you, ex, ex fiance) i would not get back with her if she was using the same drugs as you. Being with someone who also does drugs, or is also in recovery is a huge no..if one of you were to break, then the chance for you both to break goes up 10000%. Wait to you are both in a stable point of recovery. Try and surround yourself with positive influences, visit family, take things off your mind. And excercising is a huge positive when going into recovery.

IMO you also have huge potential, just for realizing what you already have, that its time to stop. props for you on that brother, and i hope all goes well for you. you ever have any problems feel free to pm me to talk
 
I believe he means cocaine?

i do. sorry to sound like a swimmer haha. but also just came to say thanks to opium and I might hit you up on that. and alsot have a problem with laughing gas. though i don't find it funny. the only thing have ever had a true +4. so for sanity's sake, I may keep a 1-2 minute exhiliration once a day or whenever. just to keep the sanity. occasional mush maybeee, being where i from we get a lot of em. i told myself when I was like 25 whenever i quit all this bullshit i would still trip twice a year. still dunno if that is true. but nothing else addictive. and I am doing my regimine but in a few weeks if I can continue this i wont rule out laughing gas 60/$ a month or whatever feels right. if anything less. but.. that's nearly a month away.......? I dunno. doing this on the fly. going for bike ride now. be back later. 19 hours woohoo!
 
haha its all good man. have a good time on your bike ride. and its not about quitting everything all at once, if you need that laughing gas now and again..its not addictive and its not hurting anyone.. But keep that mindset and you'll go far. Hit me up anytime bro

-Victor
 
and also... I have seen many psychiatrists and been labeled hyopmnanic/ADHD... I have never told anyone about my scalp. my ex-fiancee' knows. anyway, I am prolly pretty messed up but it seems so mythical. Like I understand it.. but like i have had 2 psycologists and 1 psychiatrist.. exersize, school, you don't need meds, just achieve. like, FUCK. mods let me have this please. this is so godddam wild. I also had a wellbutrin script and I took 100mgSR around 2 but it's friday night which is socialize. no smoking. I cant smoke. and alcohol leads to the bad things. this is true but SHIT i was having a bad day and went bar hopping from 3-9 drinking wild turkey and pitchers yesterday. typical. can control 3/4 but that just ain't good enough.

20 hours. but gotta go to my apartment pool at least. how to do this. maybe a cheap 4 pack of PBR tallboys. but damn that's gonna make me wanna smoke. and THAT is something I have to quit. and I need an alcohol sitter for a while. but i am ATILL CONSIDERING MYSELF DONE. it's not just quitting.. it's proactive too. no more C, opiates, drunkness, cigs, rolls, mush. nothing right now. maybe when it is time to party i will get down. but I gotta get myself right. so no more bad shit. instead valerian, vitamins, water, exersize, get registered back in school for the spring term. i dunno about grinding poker. driving me crazy, like a job. but once I get off the hard shit maybe I can get back to it and get it done. I need this. thanks Victor. that is one of my good friends. he unfortunately went off the deep end and has a bad looking court case in front of him. best dude ever. sucks to see him now.

TL;DR : going to get 4 tallboys to socialize. as long as I don't smoke and don't drink more than those 4 and no hard shit, no cigs, no extra benzos. then 20 hours and counting. bitches.
 
can't believe i have been coughing up black shit for 2 years and done nothing about it. what a pussy. and just some more quick info, haven't seen a psych in about half a decade... no insurance. but clearly pulling out hair, insomnia, nearly always half- manic, coke and amps always make me tired 1st, classic ADHD my GP prescribes me the xanax and gabapentin. that's about it. thanks to all, this could be a lifesaver. %)
 
man youve seen your share huh? and youra strong guy if you can pull of drinking and not smoking...everytime i pick up a beer i have to keep 2 packs close by.
And i know where your at, ive been in 2 psychiatric hospitals for drug induced psychosis from bath salts and cocaine..came out of it, but still not a nice experience ;)

And just be careful with the partying man. i could be on a 3 month clean streak, and go to one party with friends to have a good time, and end up falling off the wagon head first. Just careful how much you test the waters, and good luck
 
you do sound like you are hypomanic lol. I can pick up your intensity and energy just from your posts. It's good to reach out for support. I think it would be helpful to figure out why you feel compulsions to do things. They are often a relief or distraction from reality and are used as a copping mechanism. What are your goals in quitting drugs? better impulse control? better chance at relationship? more stability?
 
^ answering these questions will give you a better understanding of yourself, and give you more reason to finish what you've started. Know what good will come out of it and you'll be that much more determined to see it through.
 
you do sound like you are hypomanic lol. I can pick up your intensity and energy just from your posts. It's good to reach out for support. I think it would be helpful to figure out why you feel compulsions to do things. They are often a relief or distraction from reality and are used as a copping mechanism. What are your goals in quitting drugs? better impulse control? better chance at relationship? more stability?

1: I just don't like where most drugs lead. I have tried to rationalize and I am done. I am trying to quit nearly everything. I would like to be able to have a drink or two in social situations but be able to stop every single time. every one. 2: yes. 3: i don't know what chance impulse control is. but I will look it up now. if it is related to poker it is a non-issue. well, 40:1. 4 and 5: yes I want a better relationship. with my s/o and my kids. I am a very good father though. well, people tell me. I am alright at a few more things. thanks for your reply.

no smokes for 24 hours (my main gaol right now) <snip> I have not had a cigarette and am taking my meds at prescribed. poker went well, may head back to a local friends for a sec.

weird paradox's like... had had 20ish shots or so in my life. all opiates. and never 2 within a week. I used to// at least think that I had control. and I feel I did, partially. Now, I don't care what I feel. just ready to be done. feeling confindent this time. <snip>
 
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dead here on a friday. gonna nurse a beer at a local place with good food, no smoking and cheap beer. I may skip out on my .5mg alpraz at night. that way I can still fel "sober" and keep my 24 hour+ count. I don't want perfection in sobriety. but need do better with impulse control. and life. off to shower then burger and a beer. I don't know why.


EDIT: I don't think so. staying home. have good food.
 
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Good choice. I Have been battling with oxycodone addiction and its super frustrating at times. I dont even know what to do sometimes. I always slip up after a few weeks it seems. Psyical symptoms are no issue its all mental for me.
 
Hey, Jeah--good to see you posting here. You can for sure use this thread to help you get support for quitting but you have to be careful not to post triggering descriptions of alcohol or drugs, OK? Lots of people here are in a place where stuff like that can be trigger a craving and that's the reason I <snipped> a couple of things out of your earlier posts.;)

It sounds like it would be really beneficial to you to clarify one or two things that you want to cut out completely and stick to those. Have you checked out the Octsober thread yet? Lots of folks are trying to do just what you are, so maybe jump in there as well. read the TDS guidelines which can be found here. Good luck with everything.<3
 
sounds good. I have kept a lot in for a decade. i didn't mean to but yea. I will read TDS and look into it. thanks.

herbavore: i understand triggering some. I will try and exclude it in future posts. <3 =D


um, yeah. something. great so far. so valerian tea so far. no cigs. just took my .5mg. doing good. thanks. zzzzz, please// those vivid island dreams.. sound good. need melatonin. 1mg is good. feeling stupid. gonna work on it doing right.. why not? who in the fuck knows what sleep hygeine is? i read it. I like it. titles are ridiculous.
 
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I also have pretty much similar history as you do. Insomnia, hypomania (diagnosed as manic depressive), impulse control is awesome though - impulses are totally in control :) So I salute you, dear sir, for doing this. God knows I have quit so many times in my life, every one is the Last One, the Final Goodbye... until it isn't...

Anyway, if you ever want to chat (or roar or yell obscenities) I will be happy to be at the receiving end, ready to offer various motivational sentences and/or distract you with random shit if needed. Inbox me.

But I am a bit worried... Since I am strong believer in medication (all kinds) I would be careful with quitting cold turkey. I know nothing about you and who knows what your organism decides to do in this situation, I can only tell from my experience. And my experience is that when drugs are the reason your brain chemistry is fucked up in the first place, then you will need to control it in some way or another for the rest of your life... That this is a balance that doesn't restore by itself, even after you quit doing shit. At least when you have more drugs under your belt than few joints or X now and then.

As I said, this is my theory based on my own asshole brain chemistry, it might not be true in your case. Still I'm glad you won't be off all meds right now. Maybe you could leave yourself a safety blanket? That you allow yourself to go back on (some) meds if you can't handle the situation anymore? This WON'T be you giving up on soberness, this WILL be sign of wisdom to know when to ask for help.

Oh, and another advice I shared just recently in some other thread: find something new you can focus all your energy and attention on. Do whatever: try knitting, horseback riding, cooking, sports, go crazy with your diet - you already are on the right track. As I've observed if you have an addictive personality and are constantly looking for new rush, then you will never lose that part of you, even if you lose drugs from your life. So get addicted to whatever and you should be fine. For few hours at least... but sometimes it is all you need to get your strength back.
 
clearly got drunk last night. of course. that sentence "just gonna socialize". yea I went out a little too hard. almost overdrank to make up for no cigs I dunno. plus it was a smoking bar. but no damn cigs/nicotine and that's a pretty alright win by me. also didn't take more xanax than prescribed.

so going to kinda start over. or whatever I don't think it matters. semantics really. 37+ hours with no nicotine, hard drugs or abusing my prescriptions. got time to kill so instead of sitting in my apartment feeling hungover gonna stroll to the pool. get some sun, go swim before it gets cold tomorrow and pool/beach season ends.
 
Ah, I noticed the same thing when I quit smoking - it's harder to control how drunk you get because the accelerating effects are no longer there and you lose track cause you feel SO NOT DRUNK AT ALL!
 
something most don't know about NA/AA is that a higher power could be anything i knew a dude who told me his higher power was a door nob lol
 
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