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What If....the Tories Won the last election!?!?! (This is regarding Opioid users!)

Even the RIOTT scheme in Brighton is now based upon a 12 month period of diamorphine rather than being client led. Fucking joke. It started out going in the right direction and due to Tory ideology has now set sail for the Isle of Boundtofail. Such a shame, it was an amazing place staffed by amazing and extremely conscientious people.
 
It does beg the question of why not just prescribe them heroin...

Hmm, possibly because most governments believe there is something inherently wrong with people actually enjoying the effects of their medication? God forbid that anyone should ENJOY taking drugs!! I surprised they don't put methadone in the fuckin' water - a population subdued by a highly addictive non-euphoric opiate that will vote for whoever will protect their supply. It's no wonder they haven't seriously tried to carry out this threat - coalition or no coalition.
 
As the 3 main parties veer to the right on immigration I wouldn't be surprised to see the same happen to drug use and treatment of addicts. Our finances are looking increasingly bleak and voters may be increasingly convinced that addicts are less deserving of tax payer support.

Check out www.debtbombshell.com to see how much money we owe.
 
Until the NHS is not ring fenced Methadone and Subutex shouldn't be affected.

Well I would think and hope that that is correct! :\

Purely from a monetary point of view. Maybe :\
 
Diamorphine is cheaper than methadone or bupe, no? Was last time I looked anyway. Which was admittedly several years back now. It's puritanical ideaology pure and simple that allow treatmemt to be ruled by methadone - and to a slightly less extent bupe. As mentioned above: you're not supposed to feel good on taxpayers money. Even if it does save taxpayers money, massively reduce crime and health problems, etc. I can't stand methadone but it has its place. As does bupe. And as do more or less all the other opiates. There should be no artificial line between what is acceptable and what is not acceptable - should be purely a medical matter based on what actually works for the individual.

Also, SHM is spot on with the manifesto stuff - who the fuck cares what is said in a manifesto? Has any party ever done what they said in their manifesto? 8)

And unless the DSPs are all lying, and those of us who attend them are all blind, it's pretty obvious that drug services have gone to absolute shite since the coalition's been in power. I have absolutely no doubt they'd be even worse if the tiny mitigating factor of the turncoat, scumfuck, LibDems didn't still have vague memories of being decent human beings before they sold their collective souls to be Tory fags. (That's "fag" in the Eton sense before anybody - underlings who do what their Bigger Boy overlords tell them to do without question).
 
We are coming for the lot of you!

This is Boris in 2011 personally helping the police raid a crack house.

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This year we will send Eric Pickles in under cover to snag junkies selling their wares outside methadone clinics.
 
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Im curious as to this condition you, the OP, has that you say you while die if you go into withdrawl?
 
Tories , Labour .

They have all failed Opiate addicts for many decades know .

I have been scripted under a Tory Govt . A "New" 8) Labour govt. & This present Govt.
Under the New Labour was the biggest mess & i was kicked out of treatment 3 times .

Once for giving dirty screens . I wasn't on a dose of Methadone that was even regarded medically as a Holding Dose . So i was set up to fail .

Another time for having the balls to actually complain about the service i was receiving .

The third time my was my fault as i did make a mistake but again i was set up to fail .

So let's not say everything was good under a Labour govt. cos it wasn't it was shite .

As for The Tories current policy Yeah they do want to try & get more people in to Residential ReHab well that's what they said but as others have pointed out what they say n what actually happens are two different things . The Methadone will continue to flow that's for sure because it is cheap
.Diamorphine is cheaper than methadone or bupe, no?


No it 's not cheaper than Methadone . Bupe maybe . The packaging is what costs most of the money though .
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Oh yeah & The Portuguese Socialist Party . Can't say much bad about them as it wasn't for very long .
 
The Tories can claim to want addicts in residential rehab all they want but given the fact they've cut drug services to the bone to the point almost all are private/charity concerns now I somehow doubt there sincerity, Brimz :\

As for costs, last time I checked the prices in the BNF diamorphine was insanely cheap. Pennies per dose. Bupe wasn't widely prescribed for addicts at the time though so I am aware I'm well out of date on that. But ultimately any appropriately prescribed opi is gonna work out cheaper when all factors are taken into account.

Pee Ess: No party has good policy on drug stuff. Lib Dems and Greens (as mentioned above) come closest but the former are lying fucks and the latter will never get enough power for us to find out.
 
The Tories can claim to want addicts in residential rehab all they want but given the fact they've cut drug services to the bone to the point almost all are private/charity concerns now I somehow doubt there sincerity, Brimz :\

So the Methadone will continue then for the mean time at least .

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I am in no way down with the Tory party but i think that the OP in this thread was very far from reality . For a start they would of had to get the Doctors to agree to it .
 
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Depends on how you view Tory election "promises" really, Brimz. I can't see any government having the balls to seriously cut methadone treatement. They all know how bad that would make things. But if anybody is gonna make life hell for all it's the Tories.
 
Well under the Tories from 1979 to 1997 real term disposal cash per head per week went up from 150 to 250 pounds. that's a pretty important part of peoples lives. So not every aspect is bad.

She fucked many parts of the UK up, and made what the City of London is now, and so much more! She was awful. I'm not a Tory. Just being bit nerdy.

Nothing personal! Just being padantic (sp) :)

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...=WaLvxamcPFG3xFPcJaiVDg&bvm=bv.44158598,d.ZWU
 
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Fuck off. My family saw none of it and nor did anybody else I know. The 80s were fukkin horrendous beyond belief financially for us mere mortals. The figures you are spouting affected a tiny minority and even then only in certain areas of the country. Disposable income? I supposedly come from a comfortably middle-income family and we lived in a house that was condemned, had nothing to eat - at all - half the time and all my xmas and b'day prezzies were from the charity shop my entire childhood. Disposable income my fukkin arse. Was hell on Earth. Fuck the Tories. Utter scum and so are all who support them.
 
Sorry.

I'm not going to post on political stuff again.

Sorry. I was being silly. Thatcher is never a good idea to talk about.
 
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