Ok so trying to end a bad oxy habit, switched over to suboxone because i was able to secure a good many. Now I have my first appointment with a suboxone doctor in a week and wondering should I tell him the truth or binge on oxy so that it'll show up on my initial drug screen.
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What if I'm already taking suboxone before seeing a suboxone doc?
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NeighborhoodThreat
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We don't allow drug testing questions here but since you're also asking another question I'm going to keep it open for now.
I'm going to move this over to Other Drugs as its a bit more advanced for Basic Drug Discussion's scope.
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Since you're looking for information about Suboxone/buprenorphine, I recommend checking out the Suboxone/Buprenorphine Mega Thread and FAQ v13.0, while it is somewhat long, it is LOADED with useful information on Suboxone and other buprenorphine preparations.
I'm going to move this over to Other Drugs as its a bit more advanced for Basic Drug Discussion's scope.
B D D - - > O D
Since you're looking for information about Suboxone/buprenorphine, I recommend checking out the Suboxone/Buprenorphine Mega Thread and FAQ v13.0, while it is somewhat long, it is LOADED with useful information on Suboxone and other buprenorphine preparations.
misspharmacyashley
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I would just be honest. I can't see them getting mad or not seeing you as a patient just because you switched the opiate. I see it as you have your own 'home' maintence thing going on, obviously you really wanted off the oxy. I'm guessing you're not getting these other suboxone from another doctor? In which case, just be totally honest with the dose you have yourself on.
cj
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Be honest they see this everyday.
Bojangles69
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YES JUST BE HONEST.
My dr prescribed me sub FFS when I was on tramadol. I told him exactly what happened. I had tried multiple times to stop my usage of opium, tried switching to tram so I could taper down, and wound up being thrown in wds as well as a hypertensive crisis.
Was on the tram for 2 weeks when I decided I simply couldn't do this thing alone.
Did a ton of reading, and wound up finding **THEE BEST DOCTOR ALIVE** on this site:
https://www.treatmentmatch.org/patients.cfm
Treatmentmatch is a gold mine of sub doctors. I got 6 responses within the first 2 days from drs who knew I was on tram and were willing to put me on sub. I got to cherry pick the cheapest.
ALL you need to do is take exactly what you wrote here, and go to that site. It will automatically send your message to hundreds of drs in your area free of charge, and the drs will CONTACT YOU saying something simple like "I believe I can help you". They will never guarantee help obviously but 99% of the time that translates to "I will prescribe you sub". Then you simply go in and get treated, walk out with a script.
Quickest and easiest thing I've ever done in my life.
W/out resources like bluelight and NAABT I could have very likely killed myself trying to come off opiates w/out any medical resources. These drs will also help you get off the suboxone when the time comes. Mine is going to prescribe me clonidine, ambien, and a yet to be determined sedative for when I'm ready to taper the sub. He's allowing me to do it at my pace, he's quick, thorough, compassionate, I love my fucking dr honestly. Everytime I go in to see the guy I give him a hug. I can't tell you what type of rut I was stuck in only 4 months ago and now I have a job, a girl I've been seeing, graduated from my uni, eating healthy... and I have noone other than BL and NAABT to thank for that.
Good luck getting your life together! Sub CAN make that happen. Just remember when its time to come off the sub go sloooowww. Can I drop from 4mg to 3mg in one week and not feel much of anything? Sure. But that doesn't mean anything really. It takes your brain much longer than a week to catch up with the changes in biology. And I think this is why paws fucks with so many addicts. We judge how we come off opiates by how our body is feeling, not our minds. "Yes! No hot flashes today! Guess I can drop again!" But then things start to just seem dark and dreary... and most of the time its because people come off way to quick. They don't pay full attention to these very slight changes in emotion while tapering as they are always focused on the physical wds. But if you use your depression as a guide rather than your body, I believe once you finally come off there will be a lot less depression to deal with. Actually ALLOW your brain to adapt which can take weeks after a single drop in your dose.
In my position I'm getting homeopathic doses of sub made up (like .01mg) for when I jump off the strips (at .25mg). Yes there will still be a little bit in my blood, and I'm going to stay on that homeopathic dose for 3-6 months then stop completely. And I do believe at that point the trauma of paws will be barely noticeable. I just refuse to be one of those people that comes off sub cause I'm so gung ho to be clean and then I find myself thinking about suicide 100times a day cause I rushed it. Fuck being clean. I want sanity. So I'm taking my dear time coming off this shit.
My dr prescribed me sub FFS when I was on tramadol. I told him exactly what happened. I had tried multiple times to stop my usage of opium, tried switching to tram so I could taper down, and wound up being thrown in wds as well as a hypertensive crisis.
Was on the tram for 2 weeks when I decided I simply couldn't do this thing alone.
Did a ton of reading, and wound up finding **THEE BEST DOCTOR ALIVE** on this site:
https://www.treatmentmatch.org/patients.cfm
Treatmentmatch is a gold mine of sub doctors. I got 6 responses within the first 2 days from drs who knew I was on tram and were willing to put me on sub. I got to cherry pick the cheapest.
ALL you need to do is take exactly what you wrote here, and go to that site. It will automatically send your message to hundreds of drs in your area free of charge, and the drs will CONTACT YOU saying something simple like "I believe I can help you". They will never guarantee help obviously but 99% of the time that translates to "I will prescribe you sub". Then you simply go in and get treated, walk out with a script.
Quickest and easiest thing I've ever done in my life.
W/out resources like bluelight and NAABT I could have very likely killed myself trying to come off opiates w/out any medical resources. These drs will also help you get off the suboxone when the time comes. Mine is going to prescribe me clonidine, ambien, and a yet to be determined sedative for when I'm ready to taper the sub. He's allowing me to do it at my pace, he's quick, thorough, compassionate, I love my fucking dr honestly. Everytime I go in to see the guy I give him a hug. I can't tell you what type of rut I was stuck in only 4 months ago and now I have a job, a girl I've been seeing, graduated from my uni, eating healthy... and I have noone other than BL and NAABT to thank for that.
Good luck getting your life together! Sub CAN make that happen. Just remember when its time to come off the sub go sloooowww. Can I drop from 4mg to 3mg in one week and not feel much of anything? Sure. But that doesn't mean anything really. It takes your brain much longer than a week to catch up with the changes in biology. And I think this is why paws fucks with so many addicts. We judge how we come off opiates by how our body is feeling, not our minds. "Yes! No hot flashes today! Guess I can drop again!" But then things start to just seem dark and dreary... and most of the time its because people come off way to quick. They don't pay full attention to these very slight changes in emotion while tapering as they are always focused on the physical wds. But if you use your depression as a guide rather than your body, I believe once you finally come off there will be a lot less depression to deal with. Actually ALLOW your brain to adapt which can take weeks after a single drop in your dose.
In my position I'm getting homeopathic doses of sub made up (like .01mg) for when I jump off the strips (at .25mg). Yes there will still be a little bit in my blood, and I'm going to stay on that homeopathic dose for 3-6 months then stop completely. And I do believe at that point the trauma of paws will be barely noticeable. I just refuse to be one of those people that comes off sub cause I'm so gung ho to be clean and then I find myself thinking about suicide 100times a day cause I rushed it. Fuck being clean. I want sanity. So I'm taking my dear time coming off this shit.
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albastrux
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Be completely honest, especially when it comes to doctors. Legitimately, they can help you better and you still usually get what you want.
opiatekrzy
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oh when it comes to a suboxone doctor, nothing you tell them will surprise them. my one suboxone doc i had on and off for 4 years, preferred patients go to him who arent even opiate dependent, as he believes suboxone helps saturate peoples cravings and physiologally either way as addicts we wont be satisified without some sort of opiate in our body, i doubt he said it for money, i was seeing him thru free medicaid. It doesn't matter whether your dirty or not for opioids/opiates, what matters is that your going on a program for opiate dependency that involves the use of medicine (bupe), also doctors view it as a tool for people so if they attempt to get high, they wont as bupe blocks the effects of opiates. Some suboxone doctors PREFER you in the office puking, etc, some dont care if ur currently using opiates or not, your still opiate dependent and still will get suboxone...some sub docs r pricks tho if ur on benzos they will make u get off of them from ur primary, or some sub docs give u benzos lol thinking its gonna help (what kinda doc gives an addict benzos?) Moral: Opiates in ur urine or not , you will not be denied by a doctor practicing suboxone therapy. one time i got locked up, and my doctor gave me an appointment the day after i got out from doing 4 months in jail, started me back on it but said "you may feel highish since you havent touched opiates in 4 months, but atleast you won't have to worry about relapsing on nasty opiates, in addition ill give yo xanax 0.25mg, tolerance is low .25 for this week"
Wolfmans_BrothEr
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I told my doc that I had been getting subs from a friend before I started seeing him...he didn't bat an eye but he obviously didn't want me illegally buying scripts
I even told him I bought some from my friend when I couldn't afford the Rx one time...chances are he won't care
Word of advice tho get on and get off...the longer your on it the worse the w.d.
Your doc will probly want u to be on it for a while cause he wants to get paid but u really don't need it
And don't start more than 4mg/day IMO
I even told him I bought some from my friend when I couldn't afford the Rx one time...chances are he won't care
Word of advice tho get on and get off...the longer your on it the worse the w.d.
Your doc will probly want u to be on it for a while cause he wants to get paid but u really don't need it
And don't start more than 4mg/day IMO