What If Face-Eater Rudy Eugene Only Smoked Pot? Weed Can Trigger Psychotic Reactions,

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Soon after Rudy Eugene gnawed off Ronald Poppo's face near the MacArthur Causeway in May, the media ran wild speculating he was high on "bath salts." Later, commentators suspected LSD, coke, Ecstasy, or PCP. Eugene's girlfriend even insisted a voodoo curse was to blame.

Yet when Eugene's autopsy came back last month, only one drug was found in his system: good old-fashioned marijuana. Most people shrugged off the result. But what if Eugene did only smoke pot? Weed advocates don't like to talk about it, but there's actually a strong library of medical research suggesting that -- among those already suffering from schizophrenia -- plain old Mary Jane can trigger strong reactions.

"If you have a history of psychotic illnesses, including schizophrenia, you're probably at greater risk if you smoke pot of suffering a new episode," says Dr. Roger Roffman, a professor emeritus of social work at the University of Washington who has spent decades studying marijuana dependence.

Roffman's research doesn't come from the back catalogues of Reefer Madness anti-pot hysterics. Rather, a number of controlled studies around the world -- from Canada to the UK to the Netherlands -- have shown a strong link between psychotic conditions and pot.

The research doesn't offer much evidence that weed causes psychotic conditions. But it does suggest that smoking pot while you already have such a condition, such as schizophrenia, can be a dangerous proposition.

Take this conclusion from the UK's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, which studied incidences of the mental illness after 1996: "[There's] unequivocal evidence that the use of cannabis by people with schizophrenia increases the likelihood of relapse."

Applying such research to Eugene's specific case is a dicey proposition, of course. Friends and family say they saw no evidence that he'd suffered psychotic episodes before his face-eating meltdown.

But the bulk of research also suggests keeping an open mind about the toxicology results.

Oh, and lest you suspect that Roffman is a scare-tactic DEA agent in disguise: He's actually one of ten cosponsors of Washington's new push to legalize pot. He hopes the effort will lead to a more honest discussion of the drug's effect on public health.

"We do an abysmally bad job of educating the public about pot," he says. "People get caught in the hyperbole, with one side describing it as toxic... and the other saying it's simply an herb and the safest plant on Earth. The truth, of course, is more complex."

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"If you have a history of psychotic illnesses, including schizophrenia, you're probably at greater risk if you smoke pot of suffering a new episode," says Dr. Roger Roffman, a professor emeritus of social work at the University of Washington who has spent decades studying marijuana dependence.

Damn that doctor/professor is on the ball. Doing any drugs for a schizophrenic is probably bad, except their prescribed meds, and even going off them for however long can possibly cause psychotic episodes.

The research doesn't offer much evidence that weed causes psychotic conditions. But it does suggest that smoking pot while you already have such a condition, such as schizophrenia, can be a dangerous proposition.
No shit.
 
So basically, the media pulled the "bath salts" thing accusation out of their asses. Whelp. Regardless of what that man was or wasn't on, he was seriously fucked up in the head.
 
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/09/what_if_face-eater_rudy_eugene.php

Applying such research to Eugene's specific case is a dicey proposition, of course. Friends and family say they saw no evidence that he'd suffered psychotic episodes before his face-eating meltdown.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/09/what_if_face-eater_rudy_eugene.php

IIRC he was tased and arrested a few years back after he threatened to kill his mother. I would definitely call that a possible psychotic episode.

And I think any recreational drug (including alcohol) taken by someone with schizophrenia is probably not a good idea.

EDIT: I remember hearing that he had undigested pills in his stomach but I don't remember hearing anything else about it. Was it ever released what the pills were?
 
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This happened here in Miami and I don't recall any news about other pills in his stomach. They were eager to blame it on the weed/possible bath salts (which don't show on toxicology) Mostly schizophrenia, I would guess caused him to go over the edge.
 
well they had to blame it on some chemical or compound cus no one blames anything on other people these days, let alone themselves.
 
EDIT: I remember hearing that he had undigested pills in his stomach but I don't remember hearing anything else about it. Was it ever released what the pills were?

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It's a good question. The medical examiner's final toxicology report doesn't mention the pills. I've not gotten a good answer about whether the initial report was wrong or whether the examiners were simply unable to trace their origin.
 
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