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Opioids What exactly is a nod? Is this nodding?

pbuilder, if you used the search function you could find this answer 10X over in the time it takes to get 1 reply. I see you start a lot of threads on stuff that has already been covered a lot, so I highly recommend familiarizing yourself with that search. Here is some of the info you would have come across by searching to answer the same question you asked here;

Nodding- what is it and how is it achieved?
What's nodding?
Was I nodding?
What is nodding?
What is nodding? (BDD)

And that's just to name a few....
 
^ I think it's just subjective. While most things are subjective there is usually a majority that feels one way or another about certain drugs. For example, for me, IV morphine doesn't have much euphoria, whereas most people find it [IV morphine] to be one of, if not the most euphoric of opiate highs. I meant to tell you in our PM exchange that the morphine that I tried via IV was in ampules in the hospital, so it was a fair assessment of the effects of the drug.

After the first shot took away most of the pain, I asked for another shot so that I could gauge the effects while not being in pain, and while knowing what to expect (obvioously not what I told the doctor when asking for the second shot though =D ). I still didn't feel much euphoria from it, much like I don't feel euphoria from it when I take it orally, and I experienced a rush both times but didn't like it. I also did it a few months later once with pills, and had the same results.

I have never tried IV fentanyl though, so I can't comment on that. They did offer it to me in the hospital when I asked what my alternatives were to morphine when I told them I needed more pain meds, but I stuck with the morphine when they said the only other option was fentanyl since they only administer drugs IV in the ER, so oxycodone (which I wanted) was out of the picture. Surprisingly they didn't offer IV hydromorphone, which I hear most ERs usually use, but I guess they use fentanyl in its place. I've had the fentanyl lollipops before about 10 different times, and I found them to lack euphoria, but I did get some from them, just not as much as I would have liked, and it didn't last long.
 
^ Well IV morphine is more euphoric than IV fentanyl, but IV fentanyl produces the most intense rush I have experienced from any opioid. The high is also quite euphoric and would say that it isn't more sedating than morphine. I think both are equally sedating, but morphine lasts quite a bit longer. Any drug that binds to the opioid receptors in the brain and spinal cord should produce euphoria in the appropriate doses. The mu-receptors are known to produce euphoria when an opiate binds to the alpha 1 and alpha 2 subunits of that receptor. IV meperidine/pethidine (Demerol) produces quite an intense rush when IV'd as well and is very euphoric.
 
kokaino said:
You obviously haven't tried IV fentanyl.
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Obviously?

I have IV'd fentanyl on many occasions, obviously, thus I made that statement. Obviously, you disagree, obviously.
I've prepped shots from fentanyl patches, and IV fentanyl designed for IV veterinary use.

Obviously, you disagreed with my statement, yet what is NOT obvious to me, is why? Are you saying fentanyl is not sedating and is extremely euphoric? No risk of overdose? -____- The entire experience is like one big rush, towards the light.
 
I do find it sedating, but not much more than IV morphine. Yes, I found the rush to be extremely intense and the high was short-lived, but quite euphoric. A lot of nodding and I enjoy that.
 
Well I get you, sorry I didn't mean my harsh tone. I'm sorry kokaino, I'm having a rough morning.

I just definitely know about IV fentanyl, my life used to consist of smoking of smoking sandoz fentanyl patches and shooting IV fentanyl that I got from a veterinary clinic. Believe me, I've chased that high to the end of the road and back, I just feel like that euphoria you get the first time is never attainable again, and I spent every day chasing that first high, and never got it. Just got super high, and super tolerant.

IMO, its totally subjective, just not a feeling I enjoy, I'm a morphine man myself.
 
It's no problem. :)
Well it's rush is more intense than morphine, but in the end morphine is more euphoric over all. I'm a morphine/heroin man myself.
I haven't IV'd an opioid that wasn't euphoric. Oxycodone was the most disappointing. I enjoyed Demerol a great deal also - with a rush similar to hydromorphone's.
 
Oxycodone is only good when you have nothing to IV. It has a great oral BA and is a decent painkiller, but IV its nothing compared to morphine/heroin, Demerol, hydromorphone, fentanyl, or oxymorphone.

In fact, even orally I find hydrocodone (in the right doses) to be more euphoric than oxycodone. Even though oxycodone is slightly more potent, I just enjoyed hydrocodone more. Of course this was way back when I could enjoy oral hydrocodone or oxycodone.
 
^ I haven't bothered with oxymorphone. It's still relatively rare on the streets here in the Detroit area. Hydromorphone is good, but not great like morphine/heroin. The rush is intense and very nice, but the drug is very short acting. No real legs, still euphoric and very nice it just doesn't provide enough of a high (similar to fentanyl, but fentanyls rush is more euphoric). I imagine oxymorphone is not much different.
 
Oxymorphone rare in the detroit area, I find that hard to believe. You're probably just not looking in the right places (or at all, since you said you haven't bothered). I love hydromorphone, it's a great analgesic.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss oxymorphone though, I think you'd be pleasantly suprised, and you'd rapidly change your tune after trying it, haha. :P It's one of the best analgesics I've tried, but it's oral BA is absolutely pathetic, and the currently available formulations of it do kind of ruin it.
 
^ It is relatively rare in the Detroit area probably because we have a severe heroin epidemic in Detroit. Doctors in Detroit and the Metro Detroit area are relatively stiff with opioids due to that reason. Don't get me wrong - morphine, hydromorphone, oxycodone, and hydrocodone are aplenty in the Detroit area. Tylenol #3 & #4, codeine and hydrocodone cough syrups, Percocets (especially the 7.5 mg percs), Roxi's, Vicodins and Norcos are just rampant in and around Detroit. Dilaudid, Demerol and morphine are also common (but not as common as hydrocodone or oxycodone formulations). Other non-opioid pharms such as alprazolam, lorazepam, clonazepam, Adderall, Adipex, Soma, and Ritalin are rampant as well. But oxymorphone is just not very common. It's available, but not readily.

In Detroit it's all about heroin and crack, especially within Detroit city limits. These two drugs totally dominate the scene and most addicts will not waste money on other pharma opioids. Heroin is especially a huge problem in Detroit - its become a severe epidemic of potent heroin in the city. A lot of the pharmaceuticals are found in the suburbs where younger addicts are more into percs, vikes, or norcos.
 
Oxymorphone seems to be a very regionally prescribed drug. I never even heard of it until I read about it on here, and I only saw it for the first time a little less than a year ago. Before then it was pretty non-existent in NY, and that seems to be the case with some other states as well. Opana seems to be more commonly prescribed in the south, and I guess on the west coast too from what tricomb is saying.
 
It's prescribed in California quite a bit, although if we had a State Opioid, of the most prescribed opiate, I'll bet the most common potent one is Hydromorphone, and the most common weak one is hydrocodone, or maybe even oxycodone.

But Hydrocodone has been the #1 most prescribed medication in the USA for many consecutive years, not just in california. Something like 166 million prescriptions written in 2010 or something? I forget, but out of the total population, it was a huge percentage.
 
I have a few friends who have had pethidine in hospital and they all state how they had intense delirium type hallucinations without any euphoria at all. Any idea why there different experiences to those who enjoyed. This is also the first time i have heard pethidine on this forum, why is it not mentioned more often?>
 
Ive gotten ived morphine in the hospital before it is pretty good. The nurse evenually just came back on her own because she knew I was gonna hit the buzzer every 2 hrs anyway. It was the same day Ghaddifi got killed I just laid in my bed watching CNN all day

Ive only seen Opanas a few times round my way, mostly was OCs then Roxis after the OP switch
 
I rather liked demerol, but would take any of the morphones or morphine over it all day everyday! But if you offered me a *codone, i'd chose the demerol.
 
doppelganga196 said:
I haven't read this thread except the op, so excuse me if i'm repeating what somebody else has said.

IMO, "nodding" is a twilight state, where you are almost asleep & having these weird vivid dreams. Basically your mind is seperated from your body & you are in an apathetic state of absolute peace.

For me the best nods i've had are when i'm awake one moment then the next i'm reading a book, & its all from your memory, then suddenly you go to flip it to the next page & suddenly you jolt "awake" to find there's not even a book in your hand!

This is a recurring theme for me when i do nod & IMO you dont need to dose high.

For me the best nods (i do not advocate taking this combo whatsoever) are when i've had either morphine or opium, a small dose of valium & or an antihistamine like chlorphenamine or dihphenhydramine. Oh, & maybe some good marijuana too ;)
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This cracks me up. I have the same experience when I'm nodding. Instead of reading, I'm handing things out to people, and when I "wake up" my hands are out making the movements - but nothing is in them, and no one is there. I don't know why it's the same *dream* every time. Then, like you, I jolt awake and feel amazingly coherent.

And this happens when I'm using H. (I don't use many drugs, but the ones I do, I do to excess.) But there have been times when I wake up on the bathroom floor having landed on the tile head first - having no idea how long I've been unconscious. Or waking up two hours after shooting up with a needle still in my lap. And that's just a couple of examples. There is such a short distance from nodding to OD-ing.

Be safe!!
 
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