Stimulants What ever happened to flakka? (Alpha-PVP)

[Chaurus]

It's been banned here (The Netherlands), but I've had sex on it in West-Brabant.

There's a new television series about flakka on Dutch television, but I'm not sure which compound they mean (as I haven't seen it yet).

The Dutch news has a tendency to heap several RC-stims in the flakka container.

 

[Halif2]

I swear, there is a chaotic energy just radiating out from some of these posts that reflects the insanity of a-PVP so well. The last couple of pages of this thread made me laugh, made me a bit scared, and took me back to the bad ol' days of smoking (well, vaping) a-PVP.

What a unique, insane substance.

As a rule, I don't believe in prohibition and don't think trying to ban things works, but I also don't think that a-PVP should be easily available. It should be locked away in a steel box which is marked with a big red skull.

Meth is relatively manageable compared to a-PVP and I think it'd be hard to make a case for why the world needs it

Still, I enjoyed reading this thread, so thanks for the laughs and memories.

 

[Chaurus]

I swear, there is a chaotic energy just radiating out from some of these posts that reflects the insanity of a-PVP so well. The last couple of pages of this thread made me laugh, made me a bit scared, and took me back to the bad ol' days of smoking (well, vaping) a-PVP.

What a unique, insane substance.

As a rule, I don't believe in prohibition and don't think trying to ban things works, but I also don't think that a-PVP should be easily available. It should be locked away in a steel box which is marked with a big red skull.

Meth is relatively manageable compared to a-PVP and I think it'd be hard to make a case for why the world needs it

Still, I enjoyed reading this thread, so thanks for the laughs and memories.

Compared to the a-PVP, a-PiHP and NEP (and perhaps also MDPHP Freebase) that I took, the meth I used had a much clearer headspace.

 

[definitelynotanofficier]

Compared to the a-PVP, a-PiHP and NEP (and perhaps also MDPHP Freebase) that I took, the meth I used had a much clearer headspace.

Hopefully I am making sense instead of rambling when I say this but I'm honestly curious about this. About the difference in headspace and high from these stimulants? While all of these are similar in that they give you a stimulating high, from experience I feel there's some major differences with those two on different substances.

- With meth, despite getting high from it, it genuinely feels like I'm not high when off it. Although I feel good, stimulated, and energetic, it feels like all of it's pretty mild. appetite suppressed although mildly so. Mental stimulation ain't overwhelming or anything. Physically feel really wired and tense although I still feel really lazy off the stuff and lay around. Only two things are really stimulated, which is my focus and motivation. The duration is also pretty long lasting a long time (8-12 hours)

- With primarily flakka and the other beta-ketones, It for sure feels like I am high or 'suped up' on something. I feel really fucking good, stimulated but a little bit relaxed, and too much energy, it feels weird af. Appetite is basically gone until the high's done. mentally stimulated so much to an overwhelming degree but emotions are numbed out almost completely, physically feel a little bit wired and tense but really energetic mentally. My focus though is completely shot out, like I can't focus on much due to scattered brain, close objects appear blurry, and both eyes can't focus on something unless I close one of them. Motivation is there but less than meth unless it's for more smoking. Although it's intense in everyway it's duration lasts 3-5 hours, so while it ain't short like cocaine's duration it is relatively short when compared to meth.

I also noticed from my experience with a-pvp that once the high's done that the stimulation is gone as well, unlike meth where I gradually build up and down till i reach my baseline levels unless I just fall asleep from over exhaustion due to staying up a while, apvp just felt like an abrupt come up and then a abrupt comedown.

 

[pregabalinwithredbull]

just tried this shit a couple days ago

felt good, work went a lot enjoyable but i guess that's because i did onlly like 30 or 40 mg through the day
even with that, withdrawals were awful ngl, felt myself as the sleepiest n stupidest peace of shit in a world, thanks to phenibut i overcomed it
fuck theese rc cathinones, there, at russia we rarely can find a speed or meth but this crap or mephedrone are litteraly everywhere