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What drugs have you tried & which do you still want to try?

I used to enjoy crushing up those orange 2C-B pills and sniffing them, nice rapid onset and spectacular chalky orange boogers.
 
Ask your pineal gland ;)

Dimethyltryptamine

Pinch or so of this...

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... makes things look rather a lot like this...

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When I used to buy my 60s I never had to worry about crushing them would just take 10 of them n be in bliss..... mind you I tried to commit suicide with them once, felt really guilty because my Mam came into my room n I had to pretend I was ill with a 24 bug or summit....

But those 60s were the best, felt invincible until the withdrawals hit then I knew what pure hell was because I was in it. Not recommended.

Evey
 
600mg codeine I'd be flaying myself alive with the histamine release to be honest. Did you never take an antihistamine with 'em, Evey? I'd say I can't imagine how insanely itchy that would be but I know damn well how itchy it could be. Posted a pic of my lower leg one time years back showing the scratchmarks left from when I was heavily abusing codeine. Maddeningly itchy stuff at those kinda doses :!
 
Cos codeine releases more histamine than heroin probably. Morphine's bad for it too. Some opies are heavy on the histamine whilst others barely an itch.

Curious: True enough but most folk do get serious itchy issues on high (or even low for that matter) doses of codeine. It's infamous for the itchiez. It's not a tolerance thing either cos I was getting through 3-4g per day in (1g per dose) and even after many, many months (or at times in the past even longer and probably at higher dose) I'd always get the most insane itchiez. Actually got so used to it I genuinely thought it was part of the opiate buzz rather than just a massive - and potentially quite iffy at those levels - histamine release. Got used to it but never got any less itchy :!
 
Yeah, I know that I'm in the fortunate minority from what I've read on here. Bloody hell, 4g a day makes my habit look small!
 
Shambles said:
Cos codeine releases more histamine than heroin probably. Morphine's bad for it too. Some opies are heavy on the histamine whilst others barely an itch.

Curious: True enough but most folk do get serious itchy issues on high (or even low for that matter) doses of codeine. It's infamous for the itchiez. It's not a tolerance thing either cos I was getting through 3-4g per day in (1g per dose) and even after many, many months (or at times in the past even longer and probably at higher dose) I'd always get the most insane itchiez. Actually got so used to it I genuinely thought it was part of the opiate buzz rather than just a massive - and potentially quite iffy at those levels - histamine release. Got used to it but never got any less itchy :!
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Ah makes sense. I thought it had to do with opiate tolerance and that my itchy experience with codeine was purely psychological - maybe when I'm on heroin I'm too fucked to notice/care.
 
Was when I hardly ever read BL and rarely posted mostly - tail end of it would be the early part of this account. Had no idea about anything at the time. Was only reading BL that taught me that IV codeine is stupidly dangerous in and of itself in ways that other opies are not - not to mention shooting ultra-concentrated crushed pill goop being a bit iffy to say the least. Is frankly amazing I made it to a year's posting given my terrible lack of knowledge at the time :\

I actually can't recall how I came off it either. Was also on methadone at the time so even at those doses I probably didn't get any major w/d cos would've just skipped my methadone some days and used that as required presumably. Was a long time ago but will never forget just how maddeningly itchy it gets at high doses :!

EDIT: Heroin I find pretty variable in terms of itchiness. Depends what mix of opioids are actually present presumably. High morphine content would cause a lotta itching which I have had with some batches, others I get barely a scratch even if the gear is decent. I'm sure tolerance must play a part but it's certainly not the whole story cos even with massive tolerance a big ol' histamine release will have you scratching like a flea-ridden dog.
 
curious_24 said:
Yeah, I know that I'm in the fortunate minority from what I've read on here. Bloody hell, 4g a day makes my habit look small!
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Your habit is NOT small. Who told you that bollocks? You're taking a lot of codeine a day you need help but only you can decide that, it's difficult but don't you dare let anyone belittle your addiction.... it's just as major as anyone else's OK? You are valued here, Curious, and we want to help you through this, ok?! What you are taking IS NOT small far from it and you do need help but only YOU can decided when you are ready for that help.... and when that time comes I'll be here OK?!

Evey
 
Yeah that's true it can't all be tolerance, some stronger gear I've had was less itchier than the weaker stuff. And shooting pills is really never a good idea is it ;)
 
No, no it's not. And doubly so with codeine (Subutex is another one that's incredibly iffy to shoot even by shooting pills standard). I genuinely did not know that at the time though. Dunno why cos it should be bleedin' obvious but had always been around people who did it all the time so never occurred to me. One of many things I only learnt by reading BL. Probably one of the more important things really :\
 
I wish I had some Heroin... I'd love to try some good Heroin... get high. I mean codeine yea but Heroin I bet that's something else, especially if it's true that Diamorphine was Heroine... WOW that was the best, most relaxing experience of my life.... I'd have another child for that experience..... JK fuck that idea!!!!

Evey
 
It is true that diamorphine is just the pharmacuetical name for heroin (Heroin was originally just the brand name for diamorphine many years ago - so-called cos it makes people feel heroic). Street heroin is a different matter though. Hospital amps of diamorphine are pure heroin, street heroin is some heroin (usually around 20-30% but varies wildly) cut with all sorts of other stuff. It's a very different animal despite being (sort of) the same drug. It should be the same drug but obviously it's made in clandestine labs so starts off in any of a number of states of quality and purity then gets stepped on as it passes through dealers hands - sometimes with active cuts (certain benzos appear to be used as heroin users who don't take benzos frequently test positive for benzos).
 
Shambles - Thank God for BL, it has taught me almost everything I know about HR! People on here are obviously much more educated on these things than the majority of frequent drug users. I might come across as a HR freak within my social circle but I honestly don't know how there hasnt been more drug related casualties given the stupid things they've done with drugs / combinations they've taken.

Evey - heroin is nice but I don't see a point in taking it unless you're willing to give up everything for it. That may sound overly dramatic, but it is extremely difficult to be a functioning heroin addict - and addiction is almost inevitable after prolonged use. Cliched as it sounds you do either have to choose between heroin and life, you would never really get to live your life to the fullest if you were on heroin, even if it didn't appear to affect your life in a visible sense. Of course I know plenty of people that have tried heroin once, twice and three times and never again but I don't see the point in that. Chances are you will enjoy it (well maybe not the first time but it grows on you pretty quickly) so why even bother go near it? Why torment yourself when you will only want to repeat that high?
 
Agreed on both aspects. The stuff I've done and seen people do makes me shudder at the thought in hindsight. Never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant I was. It's not like I'm actually stupid or anything - HR info just wasn't really around much at the time. Well I'm sure it was somewhere but certainly wasn't as easy to access - would really have meant looking stuff up at libraries and what kinda junky does that? Everything was hearsay and rumour and "learning" from those who'd been at it longer and hadn't died yet. In hindsight, it really is amazing there were enough people to learn anything from with some of the insanely risky practices and utter nonsense involved.
 
Shambles - it's funny how a lot of heroin users get their hands on pharmaceutical grade diamorphine and decide that they prefer the 30% pure street stuff. It must be part of the reason why diamorphine prescribed to heroin addicts is so effective in eventually getting them completely off heroin - you might prefer the street gear but when you're getting the same drug on prescription you'd probably feel a little silly wasting your money buying less pure heroin. Obviously a whole host of other factors but just a thought!

Edit: Luckily for me I did quite a bit of research when I started getting into drugs in the first place. I know very little about drugs compared to some posters but my drug using friends in real life think I'm like a bloody pharmacist hahaha. I really love learning about drugs though, even if I never took them in the first instance I would probably find them fascinating. I haven't taken a drug in god knows how long but I'm still reading these forums and keeping up to date on druggy matters. Kinda ironic considering I actually dreaded science in school!
 
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