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What drug subcultures do you least like?

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I can not stand pot heads and psychonauts. They think that THC or DMT is magic fucking stuff that will make you a semi-god with the enlightenment. They look down at any other drug user, especially mine... I'm a tweaker, and they assume I must be a violent thief because I like amphetamine. Also organic hippy dipshits who think anything natural is safe and wonderful and anything synthetic is poison.

oh well, I can work on speed, unlike them on LSD, so they can enjoy their crappy bicycle for transportation while I fly past them in my Nissan GT-R that I can afford because I work hard in a demanding job.
 
oh well, I can work on speed, unlike them on LSD, so they can enjoy their crappy bicycle for transportation while I fly past them in my Nissan GT-R that I can afford because I work hard in a demanding job.

I can work on LSD perfectly fine and it actually assists me (software engineer). Also can work fine on stims. Just because you can't work on LSD, doesn't mean other's can't either ;)

Visualizing a 3-dimensional visio type diagram of a the overall architecture of an application and how all the classes/objects would interact.... beautiful.

Random insights out of nowhere is good too... stims are really only useful for the tedious boring side of work for me and staying up well past my body desires.

Organic hippies do suck though. I asked one once what he would use instead of Ketamine for a dissociative experience, and he suggested Datura. I immediately stopped listening to him and marked him off as an idiot.
 
Organic hippies do suck though. I asked one once what he would use instead of Ketamine for a dissociative experience, and he suggested Datura. I immediately stopped listening to him and marked him off as an idiot.

Makes sense lol, that is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard, replacing K with datura...*rolls eyes*

I'm getting tired of lazy stoners the more I spend time with them. Don't get me wrong, I have been there myself. However, due to getting popped, I haven't smoked since July and the once in a while I end up hanging out with them, I am bored out of my fucking mind. In fact, I'm moving away from boring stoners period as all they want to do is sit around and get high and do nothing. They all seem moody and depressed most of the time and I'm learning why.

I had this realization after this weekend when I spent the time on a sort of out of town vacation. The friend I went with (and his girlfriend) do smoke regularly but they smoke very little and can go without it whereas other stoners I know constantly smoke blunts and bongs and consider it an accomplishment if they can make it an hour after waking up before smoking. They can't see doing anything without getting high first whereas my other buddy will only get high if he has absolutely no responsibilities and even then, 2 hits and he is good. He actually seems to get high from smoking and doesn't seem to do it out of habit.

The friend I went with and his girlfriend are both energetic, fun and upbeat people and wonderful to be around. They both attend college and work part time jobs and yet still have time to do fun stuff. On the other end of the spectrum, the stoners I know don't want to go anywhere much and are generally unpleasant to be around. They are lazy and don't do anything and I realized that this sort of attitude rubbed off on me.

I wondered why I still feel like a lazy pothead even though I don't smoke. I'm totally getting away from people like that so I can move forward in life. Don't get me wrong, when I can smoke again, I totally will but I'm not going to make marijuana use a lifestyle.

Some of them also seem to get big heads thinking they are doing great things or have overblown egos for some reason? I don't get why, they don't really accomplish anything.

I don't hate experienced psych users; I'm definitely one of them but I think overuse definitely leads to strange, random conclusions that don't mean anything. I'm leaning toward using psychedelics more responsibly in the future. Not to say I've gone nuts but I definitely know that heavy use leads to being "out there" mentally.

As far as the rave culture goes, all it is nowadays is a clique. There is only one rave crew in my general area (and I mean ~200 mile radius) that throws great parties. By parties I mean raves .They are innovative, they have great music (not dubstep only) and a lot of really cool people attend. I think the 18+ thing helps as I quit going to raves back home as all they are are 15 y/o's taking way too much of what may or may not be MDMA.


And as far as opiate/stim culture, I've never really been around that too too much except for a cousin that is an opiate addict in a really bad way that scares me away from getting involved with that scene. Not to say I haven't met cool opiate users, there are definitely quite a few on this board, its just that my experiences irl have taught me that there are also many shady ones.
 
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I try not to be a hater. Sure I've been fucked by some people but I like to think it's the person not the drug. I kinda believe that judging people by what illegal drugs they indulge in is just as bad as judging people who use illegal drugs vs. those who don't.
 
Drug subcultures? C'mon, I hate em all... I mean they are defined by people doing the same drugs. Everything they have in common apart from being emotion-cripples who need drugs to enjoy themselves is subculture bullshit. Just too weak to act outside of a group.
 
idiot ecstacy tweekers who look at you funny when you munch away after smoking a joint (which they did not try 'cause they don't smoke weed). -Get out of character for one moment and relax you anorexic cunt!
 
i think there's value to culture, it will always be there whether you like it or not. cultures have been defined by their drugs of choice on a generalization based level. its not always good. but look at it this way. cultures across the world have always been identified with their corresponding foods or forms of dress. i'm not anti culture. but i see it as something to be mindful of and even something to step out of regularly.

culture exists because people enjoy groups. even the people that hate groups will find themselves in a group that hates groups. unless you can find an island somewhere. but then it would be the hermit culture lmao.
 
I hate parts of the psychedelic community that think that LSD is the be all end all of the psychedelic experience. They hate on 2c-e and other beautiful drugs, and tell you how PEA's are not real psychedelics, etc. etc.
Well put exactly the first thing that came to my mind.

Besides that people who think "anything synthesized"=horrible chemical since thc, psilocybin, and mescaline just comes out of thin air!

I also get sick of people who insist on smoking everything (I understand and am maybe a bit biased because I smoke cannabis based products all the time) theyre like ooh I just got an oc ima smoke it, ooh I got some tweak ima smoke it, ooh I got some phenazapam let me smoke it (that can really lead to bad shit)
 
stoners

stop saying things like:
'just smoke some weed, man'
'i drive better when i'm high'
*telling me how high you are*
'it's practically harmless'
anyone who refers to eating while stoned as the munchies
thinks 420 is a significant number

i'm just bitter cause i used to love weed, now i hate it, but still smoke it once in awhile so i can be reminded how uncomfortable it makes me
 
What's wrong with being accurate? If I am going to put something in my body, or someone else's body, I want fully informed participants regardless of level of safety.

I think I used the wrong word. I mean "pedantic" in the sense of "showy", not in the sense of "meticulous". The latter is definitely a good thing. There's a certain stereotype I'm getting at, here, of the drug nerd who looks down on lesser drug nerds, and rips them to shreds for getting their facts wrong. I don't doubt they're knowledgeable, but in any geekdom you'll get quite a bit of dicksizing. This is less prominent at Bluelight than it is at some forums, but don't tell me you haven't seen it.

This subreddit effectively sums up everything I hate about the weed subculture: http://www.reddit.com/r/trees

Annoying.

I think the closer to mainstream a culture becomes, the more annoying it gets. Or maybe the more CULTURED a culture gets, the more annoying it gets. Pot culture is both. The culture, with its showing off cool pieces, sharing pictures of stoned and horny college girls, getting stoned at 4:20, and all of that just rubs me the wrong way. The Bluelight culture is much more abstract, whether its talking pantheism, the feel of certain drugs, or just drug chemistry. I think that's why it's more of a "nerd culture"--nerdery is defined by obsession over more abstract things.
 
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I think I used the wrong word. I mean "pedantic" in the sense of "showy", not in the sense of "meticulous". The latter is definitely a good thing. There's a certain stereotype I'm getting at, here, of the drug nerd who looks down on lesser drug nerds, and rips them to shreds for getting their facts wrong. I don't doubt they're knowledgeable, but in any geekdom you'll get quite a bit of dicksizing. This is less prominent at Bluelight than it is at some forums, but don't tell me you haven't seen it.

That makes sense. So like Sheldon so to speak :p

Imagine if Sheldon was a drug nerd o_O
 
Frat boys and sloppy drunk girls = the worst

you know those girls that take one sip of an Arbor Mist and suddenly theyre dancing on a table, god just admit youre an attention whore and stop blaming it on alcohol.

I guess ravers too but just because im not fond of loud techno and dancing doesnt mean its bad, just not my cup of tea.
 
^^better be!!! jk

1st....i hate stoners that smoke all day have no job no school (or they go but get d's and f's) and look at you like you are psycho if you take mdma, speed, 4-fa, opiates ( u kno what i mean)....and by the way i work every day and go to school AND smoke all the time.....

2nd.....methamphetamine/speed users (primarily in OREGON) who think heroin is the "devil" and look at you crazy when you try to find opiates.....

3rd....people who tink it is crazy i spend alot of time on a website about "Drugs" when this is the most responsible, educated HARM REDUCING website there is...

FUCK ALL 3 OF YOU!!!! :)
 
Potheads. All they do is smoke, n they say they aint addicted, but bein up 4 in the mornin tryyna cop a bag i s perfectly normal
 
Frat boys and sloppy drunk girls = the worst

you know those girls that take one sip of an Arbor Mist and suddenly theyre dancing on a table, god just admit youre an attention whore and stop blaming it on alcohol.

I guess ravers too but just because im not fond of loud techno and dancing doesnt mean its bad, just not my cup of tea.

HAAHAHHAhahhah then they go on to say "eewww he smokes POT...thats grosse" while they vomit and have sex with whoever HAHhahhahaaa
 
I think the closer to mainstream a culture becomes, the more annoying it gets. Or maybe the more CULTURED a culture gets, the more annoying it gets. Pot culture is both. The culture, with its showing off cool pieces, sharing pictures of stoned and horny college girls, getting stoned at 4:20, and all of that just rubs me the wrong way. The Bluelight culture is much more abstract, whether its talking pantheism, the feel of certain drugs, or just drug chemistry. I think that's why it's more of a "nerd culture"--nerdery is defined by obsession over more abstract things.

I agree. I think it also has to do with the fact that weed is still taboo to an extent, therefore the people who glorify it and make it a lifestyle feel like they are doing something countercultural when in reality, tons of people smoke weed, their lives just don't revolve around it.

I've always appreciated the fact that the Bluelight community is much more mature and less self-righteous about drug use than I've seen on other forums.

I don't know if this is really well-defined or if it can even be considered a subculture, but I'm not really fond of people who will go to virtually any show/festival solely because they can get/do copious amounts of drugs there. That's not to say I don't like taking drugs and seeing live music; I just don't see the point in paying to see artists or groups who I don't even like for an excuse to get fucked up. Some people just don't understand why I (often repeatedly) turn down their invitation to go to a show or festival even after I tell them I don't like who's playing.
 
^ Agreed. I dont attend too many EDM events throughout the year. Ive gone sober to a few of them but when people ask me if I was on any drugs and I answer no, theyre face is just like 8o then goes to "Why the fuck not? :|". I simply reply "I like the music, why else would I go?". Some are just too ignorant to get it. I will admit Ive been on drugs at 90% of the events Ive attended, but every single event had at least one DJ that I wanted to see live.
 
Stoners are gettin a lot of hate here. My drug of choice is definitely opaites, opioids, etc but the the circle of friends/acquaintances I'm in is definitely stoners. Don't get me wrong, I do see a lot of the types of stoners most of you seem to be referring to, but the people I'm hangin out with every day definitely aren't pretentious and they definitely don't try to act like they aren't addicted to weed. Actually, if someones being an asshole and you call them out on it, a lot of times you get something like: "sorry man... I can be a dick when I haven't smoked in a while". A lot of us understand that weed IS addictive. Maybe the physical withdrawal is very light compared to must drugs but I DEFINITELY think there is a light physical withdrawal if you smoke heavily enough. I do dabble into the opiates culture though. Anyway, if I had to think of qualities me and the people I surround myself with on a daily basis share, they would be:
1. In my circle of friends it's definitely considered cliche to talk about any personal problems you're having past maybe "man I got a headache" "sorry to hear that". Everyone seems to generally agree that most drug users have problems, and we generally keep them to ourselves (not to say there haven't been ANY deep 1 on 1 personal issue talks or anything). There are those occasional people around that vent to all of us for some reason and we are understanding, we don't make fun of them, we do our best to comfort them.
2. We tend to be very helpful, say... if someones busy or tired and want something from the store, someone else may offer to run and get it. It's not hard to ask for a favor, like someone coming over to help rearrange furniture or something.
3. (This one is a specific house, but I'm there a lot) We are all complete assholes to each other (I never got into it but I got used to it). I'll be nodding off and I'll open my eyes and there's a stick in my face and my heart jumps haha. Or... I get hit in the head with a bottle cap. There's also a lot of nicknames (mines brokeback) and there's a lot of "Hey" "yea" "fuck you". Everyone takes it easy on people that aren't in the group though, unless they start doing it. They'll knock it off if they know you're annoyed. If you did something stupid and they're like "Why are you always actin so stupid" and you're like "whatever..." they'll knock it off, but if you're like "whatever asshole" it continues.
4. We tend do be very tolerant of all types of drug users. If you notice someone slipping into a hole we let them know and try to help, but we won't get mad or abandon them. I do think some of my friends look down on me for my use of opiates though.
5. Everyone I hang out with, even most of the people i know who aren't really close friends, are very non-stingy. I've seen this all over the stoner culture. It's considered rude to smoke by yourself in front of everyone, actually it's VERY looked down upon. Maybe this seems stingy in itself, but it's not even like that. When it's not you're weed it's also considered rude to take a big hit, rule of thumb, is if you cough your hit was to big and you get the "Woah, don't kill yourself now." comments. As far as the people I hang out with daily, they'll go as far as waiting for someone to arrive, if they know they'll be there in a couple hours, to smoke if there's only a couple bowls left.
6. No thieves. Don't get me wrong, if there's a wallet on the ground with money in it, most of us would take the money, but we would most likely try to locate the person if there was anything in the wallet, call him, and drop it off somewhere. How hard someone would look depends on the importance of the contents I guess. Claiming someone is a thief is NOT taken lightly. If someone is suspected it is kept quiet until there is proof, we would probably set "traps". Once someone is considered a thief word spreads far.
7. (Just the daily guys) Borrowing money is very easy, and I've never had a problem with someone not paying me back. I have been waiting on some money for like a week now though... (The time it will take for the money to be paid back is not generally established, unless it is a large sum of money)
8. Information is very valuable with my friends, and as far as the close friends, sensitive information is treated as such.
9. Animals are to be treated with respect, I've seen my friend feed his dog when he hadn't eaten all day. I go a bit further with this though. I had to grab my friends hand to prevent him from burning a mosquito today, and then I threw it outside before he could get it XD.
10. Loyalty runs deep. If someone gets fucked over, we all get fucked over. If someone gets robbed with someone else's money, that person generally pays them back until we can find a way to get the money back. It's not like they would be threatened or anything, that's just generally how it happens. "Hey man, I got robbed, I can pay you back tomorrow though." (Assuming it takes that long to get the money back XD) Don't get me wrong, if I get robbed for 60 bucks I wouldn't put much of an effort up to get it back. If I knew where he lived, I would probably knock on his door and ask for it, but that's about it.)
11. If you break someones bowl, you buy it, or give them a bowl that equals relatively the same value. It IS situational though, if you have one little $10 bowl and, the other guy has 3 bongs in the cabinet, and you're broke as shit, it's usually forgiven.
12. Everyone is very much into the whole "to each their own" thing.
13. We smoke pretty much every day, considering the whole sharing thing. Most of the time it's one or two people smoking everyone else up on a g or 2. But, the people rotate, and people get called out when they haven't thrown down in a while. (I'm probably one of the people that throw down the least cause I spend most of my money on opiates (opioids w/e), but it seems pretty forgiven, because before that I probably threw down the most, and I'll do things like help out with a certain persons anti-psychotics when he's broke (he doesn't smoke) )
14. Most stoners in this area dabble in psychedelics (for some reason I have a bad "thinking about death and nihilism bla bla bla" trip every time, so i don't fuck with them)
15. I don't know if it's the same in all areas, but most of the stoner culture around here dabble in most other drugs. One weird thing I've noticed is that heroin is very frowned upon around here, but prescription painkillers aren't considered as bad. Needles seem to be frowned upon in general, but I mean even snorting it or something else besides injecting. My friends don't know I've fucked with heroin due to this fact. I would more so if it were available, due to the price, but it's not.

Not all of this is true all the time, and there's plenty more, but this is just off the top of my head. I just wanted to say, not all stoners are the same.
 
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