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What drug makes people the most devious?

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DrWatson503

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i noticed on another thread someone mentioned that in his experience crack users tend to be a little more sketch when it comes to finding ways to pay for their drugs, this i realize is a generalization and i know when it comes to getting their fix any drug addict can/will do ANYTHING to get that next hit, but i was wondering from y'alls experience, what drug(s) have you seen make people drop to devious shit (stealing, prostituing ect. ect.) the fastest and why do you think that is?
 
ive had freinds that have stolen from me and lied to my face, also stolen from my parents house lied to my face, also stole from there work, but they didnt lie to me about that...fuckin crackheadz yo

Crack Is Wack
 
My experience is that heroin has turned a couple friends into conniving and devious liars. One is clean now and STILL does not admit that he did some of the effed up stuff while he was strung out.
 
Crack. Saw some crazy shit. I was driving a girl around while she was turning tricks and other hustles. She came running out of a motel room with some guys wallet and pants. She's like "go,go,go" So we burned out and I ask here why she took his pants. She said "he can't chase me that way". I'm guessing she'd done that before, lol.
 
Heroin, and opiates in general, will make one do basically anything to obtain the money for each subsequent high. Actually, any drug can really consume someone entirely. I have seen people do some crazy shit for weed, like rob someone, at gunpoint, for two ounces.
 
yeah ive seen some fucked up shit from people wanting opiates, and being dopesick, but cocaine/crack seems to make ppl do fucked up shit the fasted from what ive noticed
 
DrWatson503 said:
yeah ive seen some fucked up shit from people wanting opiates, and being dopesick, but cocaine/crack seems to make ppl do fucked up shit the fasted from what ive noticed
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That is because cocaine and crack have much quicker comedowns. One might have an opiate hangover the next day, but not withdraw for two to three days after their last high. I have never had a cocaine/crack withdrawal, but I might have done some fucked up shit when severely withdrawing from opiates...especially fentanyl and heroin.
 
I don't know to many who use crack or heroin, at least openly.

I would say the most drastic change to personality i've seen is from meth and cocaine. Meth probably takes the cake because i've seen some people rage coming off that stuff. Cocaine can just turn a friendly person into a conceited asshole.

The Drug that causes the most lying, justification, and compulsive use in my experience is ketamine.
 
When I was in residential rehab I noticed a pretty big difference between the behavior of drug users of different drugs. This was a woman's only unit. It seems that today users of each particular drug seem to follow different patterns of behavior. I might be off in my observations, but this is what I have personally noticed after getting to know multiple users of addictive drugs on a pretty intimate basis.

So out of the 18 women that I got to know, 1 was there for methamphetamine, 5 for heroin, 11 for crack and 1 for crack and heroin. Out of the 11 women that were there for crack 6 were prostitutes. None of the women who were there solely for heroin were prostitutes except for girl that used both crack and heroin. The women who did heroin relied mostly on support from their family, jobs, boyfriends and from what they told me they rarely relied on theft to support their habits. Whereas the crack using women were down to doing anything to get their next fix. Also, when funds ran out the heroin addicts were much more willing to stop and not use than their crack using counterparts who were pretty much willing to do anything to continue getting high.

I realized that this is a small group, of just 18 girls, but what I wrote here is only what they told me. Since, crack and heroin are well known for their addictive potential I wanted to give my experience with the users of these drugs. This is obviously not going to be true for all users but there might at least be some truth to the differences between the users of these two highly addictive drugs.

Both, crack and heroin, can make their users do some horrible things for the next fix, but I noticed that crack can do that much faster. I don't know why that is so but from what I have seen the users of crack get addicted extremely fast and are quickly willing to do pretty much anything to get their next fix.


This might be the reason I saw such a big difference b/w the users of crack and heroin:
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That is because cocaine and crack have much quicker comedowns. One might have an opiate hangover the next day, but not withdraw for two to three days after their last high. I have never had a cocaine/crack withdrawal, but I might have done some fucked up shit when severely withdrawing from opiates...especially fentanyl and heroin.
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Yeah i mean it realy depends on how long you have been using such a substance, how often you use it, how much you consume and other factors also take part in it aswell. but i believe because the effects of opiate use last so much longer they are less suceptible to deviousness.

Assuming that the user is atempting to stay high continuously, and that they are using normal doses increasing according to average tollerance, and never doing any drugs before, crack.
The amount of dammage one would do to them selves using crack to achieve a continous high is incredible.
So hold the phone on crack for a sec and let's talk about coke vs opiates here for a sec.
how much coke would you need to stay high for a full week?
Now how much heroin would you need to remain high for that same week?
because of the tollerance increase that opiates have the idea of a break is more appealing to them. but then you have to take into account the amount of money it costs to keep high for that long. now the drug that leaves you the most depressed, and costs the most money should be your answer.

also i have a feeling that one's past drugs have an influence on this. for instance if one has burned out thier serratonin receptors on a thizzle binge one would be more suceptable to the sensation of fiending because with less chemicals getting to the brain, the feeling of the come down might be more intense.

listen to soopa fiend by Del tha funkee homosapien... it should give you some ideas.
 
Recently, and during my first experience with very-nearly-pure cocaine, I experienced a compulsion to redose that I didn't even consider possible. I've had a lot of shite coke before, and naturally a lot of fiendish stuff, but this was completely different. I had to try so hard mentally to stop my body doing what it was on course to do. I didn't have any control whatsoever. Seriously fucked up.

Anyway, I haven't done crack, but I imagine this is what it's like. Therefore, anybody with a crack habit must display some seriously bad behaviour.
 
I don't know, I don't know many crackheads, I have learned to stay the hell away from heroin addicts who are broke and in withdrawal. I know that some people will never fuck over anyone for any drug no matter the depth of their addiction but I think these people are the exception to the rule. I've known some devious potheads that would do almost anything just for weed, I never understood it but I've seen it.
 
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