What drug did you not really enjoy...but still took again and again...

[SirTophamHat]

Compared to a hit of acid or dose of certains RCs, where one's metric is enjoyment, it's expensive (for me). A tab of LSD costs about the same as a pint.

If one is a full blown alcoholic it will get expensive just like a pack a day cig habit, but most people can get drunk off of less than 10 bucks worth of liquor.

Drinking at restaurants or bars is a totally different game.

 

[Smoky]

crack, after years of cocaine use.
i used to wonder why i didn't find heroin sooner. crack is a shitty drug. i hated it and did it anyways. not that i want to do heroin again, but crack is evil!

 

[The Doc.]

I know what you mean smoky I mean at least with heroin your getting something out of it like good euphoria and pain relief but with crack your just like why do I keep doing this when I hate the feeling so much!! Then one weekend plus a $1000 later you feel like such an idiot for sitting there wasting your hard earned money feeling like shit and peeking out the blinds.
Crack is whack as the great philosopher Whitney Houston once said.

 

[Smoky]

I know what you mean smoky I mean at least with heroin your getting something out of it like good euphoria and pain relief but with crack your just like why do I keep doing this when I hate the feeling so much!! Then one weekend plus a $1000 later you feel like such an idiot for sitting there wasting your hard earned money feeling like shit and peeking out the blinds.
Crack is whack as the great philosopher Whitney Houston once said.

Yeah right. ha! It so IS - I used to think there were cameras in my car when driving. I taped the heater ducts once on my dashboard with duck tape. Who wants that kind of paranoia? lol
Funny how something I didn't like I got addicted to. Whitney was spot on…

 

[The Doc.]

Haha oh god yea I used to be out hacking up logs with a chainsaw high on cocaine all paranoid its amazing I didn't do more fucked up shit but i found cocaine isn't good to just sit around and do nothing on you need to be doing accomplishments keeping busy and working hard. I tused to help me be superman at work but at home simply made me feel like shit.

Speedballs were fun though mixing heroin with coke seemed to take away most paranoia and any sketchy feelings you usually get from coke along with taking away the comedown so your not so scared of running outta coke. Believe it or not heroin helped me save a lot of money during my coke phase because instead of continuing to buy 40 bag after 40 bag of coke I would finish a gram of blow then do a 20 bag of heroin and fall asleep.

And yes smoky Whitney did know her stuff

 

[iodo]

I've sort of accepted that coke sucks, so I usually only do a couple lines and get away from it. I still like it for what it is though.

I think the worst was when I had an array of psychedelics and tripped 1-3 times a week on different substances for a few months. I would want to trip when I was sober, and want to be sober when tripping.

Benzos can be bitches too.

 

[Smoky]

^

Train, Logs? Chainsaws? Any humans? At least you were being productive. Do u have any footage? Productive use for a serial killer flick, with much repetition
I've heard we outta put our past to use

 

[daniel6616]

I HATED tramadol. I used appx. 600mg a day trying to stay well without norco or oxy. i liked the stimulant effect but would prefer adderall or vyvanz

 

[The Doc.]

^

Train, Logs? Chainsaws? Any humans? At least you were being productive. Do u have any footage? Productive use for a serial killer flick, with much repetition
I've heard we outta put our past to use

Haha no I was by myself most of the time which was actually pretty dangerous looking back but i loved being able to get high out by myself. The only time I usually saw someone is when a truck driver came for a load or my boss needed to talk to me which wasn't often i did my own thing I knew what to do everyday.

One time I almost got stuck overnight because a long 60 foot beam fell on my leg and pinned me it was right at the end of the day when no one is suposed to come out to where i was but lucky a truck driver happened to pass by and heard me yelling like a bitch. Dangerous work that's for sure. The cocaine and heroin helped me be better at my job... Or at least I told myself that anyways

Haha I remember I even used to do MDMA at work operating a 20 000 pound forklift and wielding a chainsaw good times. Of course weed was always present and popped pills like there was no tomorrow. All the while getting drunk off a 26 of tequila on work nights then coming in hungover with no sleep. Fuck I was even on shrooms one time cause i ate a half ounce in the AM partying the night before. I really was a crazy fucker no wonder my liver went so early I pushed my body to the max daily from 15-22 years old.
At least I kept my job and didn't hurt anyone. I wouldnt care if I got hurt being a dumbass but if I killed someone else I couldn't live with myself.

But before my big time drug use When I was just 14 I actually crushed a truck drivers leg with almost 7000 pounds!! I was so upset the forklift went on a slant then a bump got it off balance and flipped it over just when the guy was in front of the load while I was backing up(the place somebody should never be).

But that was a lesson I learnt after that scary experience I never let anybody near my loads I would yell fuck off get outta here to the ballsy people standing right in front of me while i have a 60 foot pack of wax coated beams with only 5 foot wide forks so the beams would bend like crazy. Lucky I've never hurt anyone since and while high on drugs that could have been bad.

Made me think imagine how a drunk driver would feel after killing somebody's beloved family member or something like that even if they weren't drunk just can't imagine the heart sinking that they must feel.

 

[Smoky]

Haha no I was by myself most of the time which was actually pretty dangerous looking back but i loved being able to get high out by myself. The only time I usually saw someone is when a truck driver came for a load or my boss needed to talk to me which wasn't often i did my own thing I knew what to do everyday.

One time I almost got stuck overnight because a long 60 foot beam fell on my leg and pinned me it was right at the end of the day when no one is suposed to come out to where i was but lucky a truck driver happened to pass by and heard me yelling like a bitch. Dangerous work that's for sure. The cocaine and heroin helped me be better at my job... Or at least I told myself that anyways

Haha I remember I even used to do MDMA at work operating a 20 000 pound forklift and wielding a chainsaw good times. Of course weed was always present and popped pills like there was no tomorrow. All the while getting drunk off a 26 of tequila on work nights then coming in hungover with no sleep. Fuck I was even on shrooms one time cause i ate a half ounce in the AM partying the night before. I really was a crazy fucker no wonder my liver went so early I pushed my body to the max daily from 15-22 years old.
At least I kept my job and didn't hurt anyone. I wouldnt care if I got hurt being a dumbass but if I killed someone else I couldn't live with myself.

But before my big time drug use When I was just 14 I actually crushed a truck drivers leg with almost 7000 pounds!! I was so upset the forklift went on a slant then a bump got it off balance and flipped it over just when the guy was in front of the load while I was backing up(the place somebody should never be).

But that was a lesson I learnt after that scary experience I never let anybody near my loads I would yell fuck off get outta here to the ballsy people standing right in front of me while i have a 60 foot pack of wax coated beams with only 5 foot wide forks so the beams would bend like crazy. Lucky I've never hurt anyone since and while high on drugs that could have been bad.

Made me think imagine how a drunk driver would feel after killing somebody's beloved family member or something like that even if they weren't drunk just can't imagine the heart sinking that they must feel.

I don't know why my mind went to the worst. More 'the saw' I suppose -- than the logs. I'm very visual, and have watched a lot of horror films, read books.
I do relate to the need to want to be outside by myself. I live in busy city, not a day goes by I just want to drive off and go walking in the woods or anywhere out in the open. My preference used to be getting high alone. People were a distraction.

What a horrifying experience though, you went through… and a miracle someone found you -- that must have hurt, Ouch! How is your leg now?
As far as the guy, Yikes! But, you never could have predicted him being there, it seems to me. It's good he was, now you both know. Seems like a learning experience indeed.
I've hurt quite a few indirectly, but not physically, except my mom in a wheel chair once… crossing the busiest street in Sf. Market. I was rushing, pushing her in the chair… cos she had a leg issue. I wanted to get her where she needed to be … so I could go back and smoke crack. lol. Luckily she is OK now, but the chair fell over, she had a concussion … and we had to call 911, go to ER.

Yeah, some of my friends have killed people, indirectly. I am so grateful it never happened to me. That is an example of addiction being an illness, as no one wouldn't run anyone over intentionally. It doesn't make the pain any better though, nor relieve the guilt and shame. I might not be able to live with myself.

 

[The Doc.]

Yea addiction is an illness that's for sure. But that wouldn't make the pain any eaiser . That's crazy your mom fell out of a wheelchair cause you were rushing around so you could smoke crack? Oh god that must have made you take a look at things but probably not enough to quit still.

And I am in pain with my leg and my back often but I'll survive whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

I love where I am in Canada we have the city then 30 mins away you are in a forest or lake/beach that feels far far away from any city life. I always go escape and clear my head at the lake or beach with my cocker spaniel mix I have had for 5 years. Biking is fun we have many trials to ride and one called the galloping goose isn't very far from me its over 60km long!

 

[Tryptamine*Dreamer]

Diphenhydramine - Long ago when I was broke, had not learned how to pick out valuable things from garage sales to sell on eBay, did not know circuit boards contained gold and could be quite valuable, never thought about getting things out of people's trash to sell, did not know a lot of shit the stores mark way down after a holiday retained or went up in value (Coca Cola polar bears marked down to $3.79 from $12.99 were selling for about $15 on eBay and 3 types of Barbie Dolls, same price and mark down $12-$16 last I checked but I've been too depressed to sell them or anything else lately, thus no more drug money), etc and was unemployed was dirt cheap expired on eBay. It did not feel good at all but I was suicidal and even a drug that made my body feel like shit was better than being sober if it made me less aware or made me feel some other negative feeling (I could not spend all day burning, cutting, impaling, and otherwise mutilating and inflicting damage and pain on my body - I needed something else to make me feel something different from the normal emotional pain)

Mephedrone - It did feel good for several hours, then felt terrible with anxiety, drastically elevated blood pressure, and impaired thinking that slowly faded over the next 15-30+ hours or even longer if the dose was too high.

MDPV - Was a nice functional stimulant and felt good with poppies. Would be on my list of liked substances if I had never smoked it, but I did and after that, I'd try to use it in a positive way but I'd smoke it like a crackhead or worse and keep going long after it stopped feeling good, well after side effects got bad. I'd find it hard to stop even when I was in fear for my life and both my blood pressure and heart rate were very high. Smoking it ruined it. Meth is a lot better and much easier to control. I've smoked meth a number (not a large one) of times and when I was given some for some hydros (I did it because this heroin addict in his 60s was supposedly in withdrawal bad and a weed/occasional other shit connect and friend of that guy asked a favor(I was also afraid a guy that old might have a heart attack if it was so bad) - I was going to ask to go so I could try to get a hook up but decided at the time maybe I should not attempt to get into using smack. Maybe I was being lied to, but it seemed a fair trade to me.

Tobacco - Nicotine itself isn't bad, but it isn't very good. The negative effects of smoking not including things that can kill or cause permanent harm such as coughing like hell and feeling shorter of breath than a non-smoked, not to mention smelling bad and exposing others to your toxic smoke if you are rude enough to do it where many others will be near you far outweighs any benefit. There is evidence smoking exacerbates mental illness as well. Snuff or chewing tobacco is disgusting to others and tastes bad IMO. Probably fucks up teeth. You have to wash your mouth out before you can drink or eat and have to keep something to spit in. E-cigs are okay though and you can do interesting things with them....................

 

[Professer]

^You smoked stims just like I did. Ruined it for me.

I could enjoy some vyvanse, high dose, once in a while though.

 

[Smoky]

Yea addiction is an illness that's for sure. But that wouldn't make the pain any eaiser . That's crazy your mom fell out of a wheelchair cause you were rushing around so you could smoke crack? Oh god that must have made you take a look at things but probably not enough to quit still.

And I am in pain with my leg and my back often but I'll survive whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

I love where I am in Canada we have the city then 30 mins away you are in a forest or lake/beach that feels far far away from any city life. I always go escape and clear my head at the lake or beach with my cocker spaniel mix I have had for 5 years. Biking is fun we have many trials to ride and one called the galloping goose isn't very far from me its over 60km long!

Yeah, crazy - It did make me see my reality more clearly of my crack use (with other substances) -- but when these things would happen while I was using it just made me use more to cope with the pain of what was happening. I later had an intervention….
I hear you about the pain… I have it also in spine.

Canada sounds lovely, I went to the beach briefly yesterday. It's a necessity for me… really does clear out the mind a bit.

 

[TheRapperGoneBad]

So sad to say it but.....

DMT.

Some ones gotta explain this one to me so far I'm really not gettin much from it?
Topham?

 

[Tryptamine*Dreamer]

So sad to say it but.....

DMT.

Some ones gotta explain this one to me so far I'm really not gettin much from it?
Topham?

I liked it a lot but it was not worth the price to me and not as good as I hoped (my expectations were set extremely high though, and if it took 4 or 5 times as long to wear off, still not long, it would be one of my favs). That said, you might like 5-meo-dmt, I have heard it is far more intense. There was a Bluelighter who I haven't seen around in a long time, morninggloryseed, who said it would produce a +4 type trip every time given a sufficient dose and from what I remember from some trip reports I read long ago, it seems like it often completely dissolves this reality and a lot of people describe being engulfed in "the white light" or something like that.

^You smoked stims just like I did. Ruined it for me.

I could enjoy some vyvanse, high dose, once in a while though.

Yeah, wish I had never done that. I may have only snorted ethylphenidate though and I liked it okay.

 

[LandsUnknown]

alcohol. i don't particularly like it, but still drink frequently. i don't dislike it, but don't really like it either

 

[Bamagirl88]

Coke....after the first two lines or shots I am a sweaty, dirty, grungy, paranoid, scared mutt.....I hate the fiendish behavior it brings on. And after that first line or two it's like someone put my head in bubble wrap and is popping the plastic all around me.....plus who wants to think the whole swat team is outside their door? Where's the fun in that? And, I can shower and still feel dirty like I slept the night sleeping on the floor in jail.


i used to say never again, but my car used to keep driving me to the dealers every night....oooo I hate that drug.

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

2-FA and constant redosing even though any additional effects are minimal or non-existent. I'll never buy the stuff again.

 

[THCified]

^ Same here. Even though my experience with both, 2-FA/2-FMA is very limited, i dunno what could happen that i do, hell, even wast a thought doing more research with these! They're, as i think, crappy stims, even though there are worse ones, which have a not too healthy feel to them, which made me wonder what's going on, as there are many ppl seemingly liking them (or at least one of them). This being said, since i'm not just into the Peev, hell no, i friggin' love it, my opinion might not be of interest for most ppl - because, as we all know, 8/10 ppl hate it! ...and even though i understand all those saying it's shite, just because we're all free to share our conclusion, many, if not all of 'em have one thing in common - the emetic factor, which makes me wanna puke a Fuckton of Fuck y'all, simply because 8/10 cannot handle it, well, or at least handle it somewhat reasonable (which means without going straight into psych-mode) and blame the Compound instead of themselves...

And as there are others like me, enjoying it and learned by experience, it's clearly not the Drug but what ppl make out of it! What i should add is, that i perhaps tolerate it somewhat more well, because of me being diagnozed ADHD. That means no Stim is euphoric, they're functional to me and so deliver plain simple clear 'n straight focus, willpower to do every- or something i usually wouldn't wanna do, ...it helps!

Same goes for 4-FA/FMA, or 3-FMC, all of those had some toxic (not as in intoxicated) vibes to them, but that just might be me, letting aside the fact that a 'feeling' cannot be used as reference point if something is toxic or not! Whatever, 3-FMC with Alcohol was fun, just as the aftermath was Hell on Earth!

...and the Peev, well, this one felt shit, shittier and even more shy-tey - in the beginning! Nowadays, dont' ask me why (probably it's kinda Receptor-acclimatizing Phase until it's settled in, as in "poisoned your brain long 'n hard enough to get accustomed to it!"), making it my N°1 Go-to-Stim - sharing it's Throne with Methylphenidate (XR) and so comes handy as a fast-acting tool that, if dosed correctly not too often, not too regular, has near identical effects and literally no side-effects.