Didgital
Bluelight Crew
OK so I know generalizing and stereotyping is not good but most stereotypes do have some basis in reality. I'm going to make this thread anyway. Hopefully no one's feelings get too hurt.
Which group of drug users comes off as the most uneducated about the basic facts of their own DOC.
It's actually a tough question.
Is it LSD people? All of the mythology surrounding the actual production/distribution process automatically means most consumers don't know shit and often are intentionally misled for various reasons.
Is it opioid people? They call it dope for a reason..
Is it meth people? I call em crazy but most meth users I've met were not stupid people.
Is it disassociatives?
Is it cocaine people? I see people of all walks of life doing/addicted to cocaine.
RC people? Buying random novel chemicals from strangers over the internet is certainly not without risk.
Other drugs?
As far as I am concerned we're all fair targets in this convo. There are no right or wrong answers. I just mainly curious other people's thoughts on the topic.
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Personally I'm gonna say it's kratom people. I've never seen people so adamantly staunch about misinformation although it is getting better I feel.
I can't tell you how many times I've been in a conversation with someone and they say
"Well Kratom saved my life and some guy at the head shop told me so and so, so its true"
"No you're just an idiot who not only bought their product, you bought their lies too."
I've said it before.. a lot of people want to believe something regardless of the facts/evidence, and let's face it. There are a lot of "Believers" of kratom. In their defense, kratom manufacturers tend to be notoriously dishonest, and the media isn't any better at providing factual information. Also it's an incredibly complex plant chemistry wise so there is A LOT of info to know about it.
Examples: I suspect that a significant percentage of kratom users don't even know what mitragynine is. There are people on this forum who believe 7-OH is entirely synthetic and not found in the plant etc. There are people who still believe that the color of the vein is dictated by "strain" and not age. Obviously, people think it's not addictive because they buying it in a gas station. Shit, a lot of people don't even think it's an opioid. Some people refuse to believe it's an opioid, even if you were to show them binding data as a MOR agonist.
My close 2nd (mostly joking here), would be half the people in the "Whats wrong with MDMA" thread. I'm kidding cuz there's a lot of smart people in that thread. But there's a lot of people who want to believe and just completely ignore any evidence presented to them that's contrary to their belief.
--Note**
I made separate categories for LSD and other psychedelics as well as Opioids and Kratom, because the cultures between fentanyl users and kratoms users is generally very different. Less so than LSD vs other psychedelics, but there's a lot of LSD hippies who will probably never touch something like 2C-B.
Which group of drug users comes off as the most uneducated about the basic facts of their own DOC.
It's actually a tough question.
Is it LSD people? All of the mythology surrounding the actual production/distribution process automatically means most consumers don't know shit and often are intentionally misled for various reasons.
Is it opioid people? They call it dope for a reason..
Is it meth people? I call em crazy but most meth users I've met were not stupid people.
Is it disassociatives?
Is it cocaine people? I see people of all walks of life doing/addicted to cocaine.
RC people? Buying random novel chemicals from strangers over the internet is certainly not without risk.
Other drugs?
As far as I am concerned we're all fair targets in this convo. There are no right or wrong answers. I just mainly curious other people's thoughts on the topic.
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Personally I'm gonna say it's kratom people. I've never seen people so adamantly staunch about misinformation although it is getting better I feel.
I can't tell you how many times I've been in a conversation with someone and they say
"Well Kratom saved my life and some guy at the head shop told me so and so, so its true"
"No you're just an idiot who not only bought their product, you bought their lies too."
I've said it before.. a lot of people want to believe something regardless of the facts/evidence, and let's face it. There are a lot of "Believers" of kratom. In their defense, kratom manufacturers tend to be notoriously dishonest, and the media isn't any better at providing factual information. Also it's an incredibly complex plant chemistry wise so there is A LOT of info to know about it.
Examples: I suspect that a significant percentage of kratom users don't even know what mitragynine is. There are people on this forum who believe 7-OH is entirely synthetic and not found in the plant etc. There are people who still believe that the color of the vein is dictated by "strain" and not age. Obviously, people think it's not addictive because they buying it in a gas station. Shit, a lot of people don't even think it's an opioid. Some people refuse to believe it's an opioid, even if you were to show them binding data as a MOR agonist.
My close 2nd (mostly joking here), would be half the people in the "Whats wrong with MDMA" thread. I'm kidding cuz there's a lot of smart people in that thread. But there's a lot of people who want to believe and just completely ignore any evidence presented to them that's contrary to their belief.
--Note**
I made separate categories for LSD and other psychedelics as well as Opioids and Kratom, because the cultures between fentanyl users and kratoms users is generally very different. Less so than LSD vs other psychedelics, but there's a lot of LSD hippies who will probably never touch something like 2C-B.
