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What do guys really think of girl's bodies?

The pressure on women to be beautiful starts at a very young age. Look at the fairy tales that get read to girls, Snow-White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty. These are all stories about a beautiful (and therefore good) girl and her quest to attract Prince Charming.

These stories and other media influences teach girls to aspire to be the most beautiful she can be. She must be the head turner, the belle of the ball. Beauty is good.

Sadly, some of us will never be the belle of the ball. Alot of us grow to accept that and move on. Some of are lucky enough to have people in our life teach us to strive for more than beauty. But there are a lot of beautiful girls in the world and beauty is such a wonderful thing. If you just tried a little harder.

Most likely you'll run up against a girl who is more beautiful than you, or that you think is more beautiful than you. Perhaps if you skip a few more meals and buy a few more products you'll get that edge, because if you're not the best looking girl around you're nobody.

Look at the fairy tales, you're either Snow-White, or her evil (old) step-mother. You're either Cinderella, or her ugly (nasty) sisters. You're Sleeping Beauty, or some aged fairy. There's only room for one pretty girl. Besides beauty is all you need, both Snow-White and Sleeping Beauty are actually comatose when they meet Prince Charming. Their beauty is all they need to kissed, awoken and swept off to happily ever after. You never hear about the Prince looking for meaningful conversation.
 
^Questionmark, um, what are you talking about? The OP has only made two posts in this thread, none of which were saying what men think, only asking.

And for the record, the women in women's magazines may be a BIT skinnier, but the women in men's magazines are still *ABNORMALLY* thin and also airbrushed. I am nearly exactly average height and weight for an American woman, yet most models are four inches taller and weigh 15 pounds less than i do (a conservative estimate). Given that each additional inch of height should add at least 5 pounds of weight (and that's another conservative estimate), those women should all weight twenty pounds more than I do!!! Now let's put that in perspective: that means that I would have to lose AT LEAST, at the VERY minimum, 35 pounds to be of the same proportion as those women. And again, I am average weight for a woman. Now tell me again how it's my fault that men constantly gawk over that image and tell me I'm fat (which has been done several times in my life).
 
questionmark said:
why is it that guys are the ones being blamed for womens poor self image?

i can guarantee you the average guy is not looking for a supermodel nor will they think theyre even all that attractive. the supermodel look is what women push on themselves. why dont you look through womens magazine and mens magazines and compare the models used in each. last time i looked through maxim i didnt see any bony 100 pound 6 foot tall models posing.

a perfect example of this is lindsey lohan. she looked sooooooo much better before she lost all that weight, and most men will agree with me on this.

women trying to become as thin as possible are the same as men trying to 300 pounds and be all muscle. YOU HAVE WARPED VIEWS ON BEAUTY!!!!!!

Im a girl and iv got to agree with you. I dont believe its men putting pressure on women to live up to the supermodel standard, its women having that expectation that its what guys want and then trying to live up to it all of their lives. Im not denying i never have days when i think hmm id like my hips to be a little smaller or my tummy a little tighter but thats not because of pressure to look good for a guy, and the bottom line is i dont go out and try to make that happen because i know its not important. Its important to be myself and love my body the way it is. Im not perfect, i know im not, i have stretch marks and cellulite but so what? And before anyone jumps on me im not trying to brag about being secure about my body or rub other peoples noses in it for having body image issues. Iv been through all that myself and iv just come to realise it really is a waste of time to try and live up to an unrealistic expectation.
 
kittyinthedark said:
^Questionmark, um, what are you talking about? The OP has only made two posts in this thread, none of which were saying what men think, only asking.

And for the record, the women in women's magazines may be a BIT skinnier, but the women in men's magazines are still *ABNORMALLY* thin and also airbrushed. I am nearly exactly average height and weight for an American woman, yet most models are four inches taller and weigh 15 pounds less than i do (a conservative estimate). Given that each additional inch of height should add at least 5 pounds of weight (and that's another conservative estimate), those women should all weight twenty pounds more than I do!!! Now let's put that in perspective: that means that I would have to lose AT LEAST, at the VERY minimum, 35 pounds to be of the same proportion as those women. And again, I am average weight for a woman. Now tell me again how it's my fault that men constantly gawk over that image and tell me I'm fat (which has been done several times in my life).

i meant to include most of the other girls that posted their opinions.

men, for the most part, like healthy looking women. despite what you see in movies, or magazine. men will realize on their own that a model figure isnt the norm. alot of them will decide for themselves that they are not attracted to this kind of girl either.

like i said before. its mostly women that push that kind of image of beauty on themselves.
 
Re: I'll "weigh" in on this one.......

SqueezeTheShaman said:
My second point, and I've seen this proven over and over again. We live in a capitalistic society. Money talks, bullshit walks. So, ladies, do yourself a favor. Go to a strip club, and just watch. I absolutely guarantee you that the girl with the broad shoulders and round hips is the one making the most money. It always proves itself to be true. Despite what's in the media, men cough up the money at a strip club for the girl with the curves.

I can attest to that 100%. I think that the reason for this is that the curvier strippers don't spend SO much time trying to be perfect, they know they're not perfect (according to societal/media views) so they don't really worry... they can't rely purely on their perfect abs, perfect legs, tight arse, etc, so they put more effort into the dance... they use eye contact (MASSIVE plus for strippers), they pour out their personality in their dance... curvy girls that strip KNOW they're curvy, and they RELISH it and use it to their best ability.

I've seen all of this first hand, and have seen how alot of supposedly perfect bodied strippers worry/starve/over work themselves at gym, and they just look like empty shells up on stage. :(
 
I based my post on what lovers have told me in conversations on the topic.

Am I actually wrong questionmark or are you just piss moaning for no reason? I can post my opinion in this thread if I want to.
 
last i checked the OP asked for what what MEN really thought of womens bodies.

i based my answer on what i personally like and what most of my male friends like as well. i wasnt aware that you, as a woman, knew what mens personal preferances were.8)

i stand by everything i said.
 
Was I wrong?

You based your post on what your male friends like also. Does it occur to you that I may also have male friends?

Does my posting my opinion stop men from posting theirs?
 
no but its pointless since you as a woman wont really know what your male friends find attractive.

i have female friends as well, and i sure as hell dont talk about what kind of women i find attractive with them.

did it ever occur to you that male/female friends arent going to understand each other as well as male/male female/female friends? you really expect us to go around playing the rating game with our chick friends?


btw, yes as far as im concerned you were wrong.
 
not if theyre blaming their twisted view of beauty on men and telling us what we think is attractive.
 
MissGlitter said:
It has always been my belief that guys are very, very fussy about girl's bodies, & like them to be 'perfect', whatever that means. I think that this is due to increasing explicit sexualisation of our media, & the way in which we see a lot more flesh than we used to. Supermodels & actresses are getting thinner, & there is a lot more pressure to have an abnormally thin, toned figure these days. For example, look at the Bond movies. In Dr No (1962) we see Ursula Andress emerge from the ocean, looking gorgeous, with a slim but normal curvy figure. You can see she's holding her stomach in. She looks great, but her body doesn't seem unattainable. Fast foward forty years to 2002, with Halle Berry making her appearance in Tommorow Never Dies. She emerges from the water with a body so toned and perfect that it makes Ursula Andress seem almost 'flabby'. Her boobs defy gravity, she has curves in all the right places, & there is not an inch of untoned skin or extra flesh. It's as though she was created by an artist, not by mother nature.

And I think it's this change thats made me feel guys now expect perfection from a girl's body. I spend a lot of time worrying about my body & perfecting it, because I'm sure that no guy will be attracted to me if I don't look like one of the girls in FHM. But is this true? Do men really mind if a girl has stretch marks, cellulite, or she isn't thin? Could he be attracted to a girl who doesn't have a body like a swimsuit model? I always assumed that men would really slag a girl off to his friends if she didn't have a great body, & I guess this has made me a bit paranoid. Does it really matter that much what her body looks like? The funny thing is, on the reverse when it comes to men, I really don't care if a bloke isn't an adonis, and if he is overweight/underweight etc. All I are about is hygiene and height. As long as I get on with the person and I find them sexually attractive then I really don't care.

Anyway, your thoughts please

MissG:)

Congratulations on not allowing the mainstream media to brainwash you, though you can't help but to have some level of Image Paranoia in modern industrialized nations.

You get +1000 hawtness points for not being self-image-absorbed, btw :)
 
questionmark said:
not if theyre blaming their twisted view of beauty on men and telling us what we think is attractive.

Ah now I see your point :)

Well, I think it's interesting to see what different people think about this. Perhaps if everyone gets to post their opinion we can come to a better understanding of the issue.
 
Who cares what men think of your body.

What do YOU THINK OF IT???

If you spend all your time worrying how it looks for somebody else you livin the wrong way.

Who gives a fuck. chicks try and be skinny and all they look like is a bunch of ugly ass underfed weak lil bitches. you gotta have some curves and some roundness there. a nice phat ass. girls are supposed to have shit that shakes and moves.

All i know is i be like a fly on the wall. i cant tell u how many conversations ive heard with my homies talking about whats good in a chick. when im doin other shit or just chillin listening.

Every guy i ever met is basically 2 ways

1. take care of yourself, dont be nasty or skanky lookin, dont be dirty or not take care of yourself. do what you can with what you got and have some self confidence and assuredness and believe you look good not in a skank thong hang out type of way, in a way that shows you respect yourself and think you have some self worth.

2. ''shut the fuck up and stop worrying about your weight all the time its so fuckin annoying and we dont wanna hear about your endless bitching about how you look fat or something else aint right. its just annoying. if you wanna change, fuckin change already dont bitch to me about how youre ugly or fat so that i can tell you you look fine and you boost your self esteem.''

and i agree with that shit.

Women in magazines are UGLY. BONES ARE UGLY. that shits NASTY YO this some ethiopia shit or what?

Maybe its just how or where i was raised but the girls considered hot where im from are the ones with a glide in their stride and a dip in their hip, who know they look good and aint about to hear nobody put them down, even if they are 5'5 and weigh 170 pounds. who got self confidence and some ass to grab on to.

Man yall dont even know.

IMO those weak, boney ass, lookin liek they breakable magazine bitches are straight disgusting. now me myself i am on the slim side but i EAT homie! i just got a fast metabolism and i aint skinny like flat and shit im slim with a round ass you know, i got something there, i would never NOT wanna have a little jiggle there. aint talkin bout like some nasty ass 70 year old grandma folds of waffle-lookin cellulite, by jiggle i mean bounce.

Fuck what guys think.

The reason guys hate women sometimes is shit like this.

Take acre of yourself, be yourself, dont always be fuckin frettin over your weight and what you look like to a guy. quit yappin and do somethin if you got a probelm.

Im a girl, i been thru problems before, hell i even been a boney ass lil bitch when i had some problems with drugs and shit like that that made me not give a fuck and treat myself really bad. i weighted less than 100 before and im 5'6, so i ben there, done that, been skinny, been thicker, and damn i would never ever ever wanna go back to the way i looked before it was nasty like no word for it.

yall think guys want somebody lookin like that? hellllll no.

like i said doe from all the guys i ben friends with (and aisde from 3 chicks my whole life, thats been all my friends, only guys) i can tell you that its the whining and the bitching that is much worse than someone who is a couple lbs overweight.
 
I'm certainly not one to care whether guys "really do care" or not. If a guy cares that much about that kind of thing, I don't want anything to do with him anyways, so it doesn't matter what I look like! I'm still super self-conscious, I'll admit that, but that's more a function of my anxiety disorder than me really caring what other people think. That all being said, I just encourage all of you who think guys are getting the raw end of the deal (with us women "trying to blame everything on them") to remember that there are a disturbingly large amount of men in this world who will not hesitate to call a girl fat and ugly to her face. I don't care if a "perfect" chick is what he fantasizes about - I fantasize about "perfect" men and women all the time - but when he tells me to my face that i'm not good because I don't fit that ideal, the game's over for me, buddy. I would NEVER in a million years walk up to someone and tell them they were ugly.

I'm the last girl on earth to be a feminist, but after having been called "fat" and "gross" as many times as I have, the rest of the men in my life are gonna have to win my trust back. I'm not gonna cut slack in that department anymore - my assumption is that guys are putting the pressure on to look like that.

Pardon my pessimism, maybe it's just me....
 
i do get really worried about my wieght/ appearance. just recently over the winter i gained about 20 pounds and then lost all my self esteem. i used to be able to mack it at the clubs, and i just stopped doing all that, i felt so gross and disgusting, even tho i would still get hit on by guys i still felt disgusting and not worthy.

i think a part of that could be tho that alot of guys i were with told me they usually prefer the super skinny chics, and that hurts! im by no means fat, and for a guy to say something like that to his girl...well it makes them feel like the fattest person in the world.

even at my highest weight i still wouldnt have considered myself fat, but when guys have to say shit like o yeah your the biggest chic i went out with..or oh yeah you can lose a few pounds...its not cool.

i feel much better about myself now tho. when i met my current BF i was at my " high disgusting feeling wieght"
he basically told me i was crazy and thought i was beautiful with an awesome body.

since then i lost most of the 20 pounds i gained and am back to a normal weight and it feels awesome to be back in shape again. even if im over weight just a little bit it changes my whole outlook on life and i get the " im fat and ugly who would want me attitude"

having my BF be so supportive really made it easier for me to stick to my diet, and i didnt feel fat or ugly anytime i was with him, even when i did have the extra pounds.

nobody is perfect, no matter what. i think looks matter to a point but personality is what really does it for me, if my guy were to gain a few pounds...whatever...no big deal..i just knew on the 1st night we started talking we clicked instantly and i knew it was the start of something good.
 
as long as im physically and sexually attracted to a woman, what she specifically looks like doesnt really matter to me. she can gain weight, lose weight, as long as i am still attracted to her, then doesnt make a difference.
 
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