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What did i do wrong?(morphine)

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Tortiees

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Today was a rather frustrating day, i had two doses of morphine 15mg each (weighing 115lb). The day started of with me weting a purple morphine pill 30Mg SR then wiping the pill until the purple wax was gone. I then cut the pill in half and Chewed up one piece in my mouth, after drinking alot of water. After about an hour i felt nothing but drowsieness. Dissapointed , i chewed up the other half. An hour later, still felt nothing. I want to know what i did wrong and to give you an idea of my tolerance level, it ony takes 15mg of vicodon to get me high.
 
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Hm. According to this, 15mg hydrocodone = 15mg morphine.. but oral morphine is notoriously ineffective. Perhaps you didn't defeat the time release fully, or perhaps morphine isn't the drug for you..
 
I don't think you did anything wrong.

I do think, however, that you may have been expecting too much out of regular old oral morphine. The bioavailability is pretty low, and most of the drug is destroyed by the liver during first-pass metabolism. Hydrocodone on the other hand, has a much higher oral bioavailability.

It may take closer to 45mg before you really start to feel it. Don't go too overboard though of course, take it slow just like you did and work your way up. Morphine is still powerful, and of course should be treated as such. All in all, you didn't do anything wrong I just don't think you took quite enough. It sounds like you were on the threshold.
 
Morphine isn't particularly good at getting you high, especially when taken orally. If you're used to the other pharmas, chances are you're gonna be disappointed.
If you wanna keep trying, for a start, crush down the pills properly before taking them, chewing them is gonna leave largish lumps + take more time to fully absorb since it's gonna get stuck in teeth. 15mg is a pretty small amount to be doing oral. I never used hydrocodone so can't compare to that, but maybe try a higher dose next time.
 
Do you suggest snorting or even plugging(although i would have find out exactly how)them instead? If so what dose would i need to take?
 
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Snorting isn't gonna be much better, to be honest. Both oral and insufflated are gonna have very low BA. The only ROAs that are half decent are IV'd and plugged, though I can't say I recommend IVing for safety reasons, and plugging.. well, I guess it depends on how squeamish you are :P
 
haha! I am open to plugging if it means having a better morphine trip. What are the steps i should take and what dose? Do i just put one up there? And how deep in? Lol
 
This guide is pretty good: link

Basically, you're goto remove the coating and crush it up as if you were gonna eat it, but then dissolve it in a few ml of water, depending on how big your syringe is (if you don't have a syringe, just go to the local chemist and say you need an oral syringe, should normally be given to you free). Don't worry if it doesn't all dissolve, this is common especially with the ER type pills. Pull up into the syringe, then just lube up and stick it in there, plunger down, and stay lying down on your side for about 15 minutes (good to have a book or something to distract you).

For dose, if you've done 30mg oral without much success, i'd suggest starting at about 15mg, then upping the dose if you don't feel it enough (yes, I know that sticking stuff up your ass repeatedly can be a hassle, but safety first =D
 
Couldnt i just stick the pill up there with no problem? Because that seems like alot of work! Lmao im not good with syringes. Brings back bad memories.
 
Plugging is an excellent ROA generally, but for morphine I don't think there is that much difference.. not according to this, anyway. Not verified that and not tried it with morphine myself, however :)
 
That's odd, effie. I remember it being about 40-50% rectal. Guess I was wrong

Tortie - sticking the pill up there probably won't do much good, if it's a time-release one. Though if effie's BA thing is correct, you're probably just better off crushing and eating it.
 
Nah, lower BA than oral. Though it'll have a slightly stronger effect and faster onset snorted.
 
Tortie, I do hope you're not just gonna find out your weight ratio to extrasee and then dose appropriate to 100mg :P there are a lot of other factors that control tolerance, the only (safe) way you're gonna find out what dose is best for you is by starting low and working your way up.
If you're back to oral now, i'd say do no more than about 45mg eaten, if you felt basically nothing off 15mg.
 
the only thing is i have just 5 more 30mg pills . SO its deciding to do 45 mg or 60?...
 
I'd say go for 45mg, seeing as you already got little effect off a spaced 30mg. Just make sure to properly crush it up first rather than chewing it.
 
In my experience, yes it does. Plus you don't want a bunch of pill stuck in your teeth.


Smash it up and place in the middle of a square of tp/tissue/rolling paper. Ball it up and swallow.
 
It's more efficient, certainly - you can get it much finer and you won't get bits stuck in your teeth that will slowly be absorbed... also, doesn't it taste horrible? Most opioids do..

edit: ninja'd by Oxide!
 
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