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MrMandy93

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My mate has recently found out that her brother who is fourteen has bin mixing with the wrong crowd and that have got him trying drugs, He has only taken Pure MDMA Crystal and speed on a few occasions, What could be the possible out comes of this or permanent damages he could face. Thank You :)
 
I personally think its on mental age, me at fourteen couldn't of handled that at all.. But there's someone I know who has the brain age of an 18 year old and she's only 15.. But then there is the physical side and the impact it will have on his body as he's doing it so young. Saying that I'm no expert on mdma at all, have done it but not very clued up on the long term effects ect x
 
He normally bombs half a gram in two bombs he seems to handle it really well.
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Hang on.....Slow the fuck down. Someones ability to 'handle' taking large quantities of powerful serotonin releasing and potentially neurotoxic drugs does NOT make them mature enough to take the substance in question. At 14, your body and brain are still developing, and hormone levels are going up, down and sideways as your body starts to level shit out. This is NOT the time to be consuming powerful SRA's or any drugs for that matter (not to mention, 500mg of MDMA is a stupidly HIGH dose for a first time adult, let alone a 14 year old CHILD!).

Seriously mate, you really need to sit this lad down and have a chat with him. I know at that age, kids want to experiment, but fuck me, MDMA is NOT the drug to be using when you are young.....On a related note, I find your attitude to what constitues 'maturity# rather worrying.....
 
I didn`t do ecstasy until I was 18. I think you have to wait for the brain to develop before you start messing with drugs that change the neurological system. Since I have an addictive personality I would have been a wreck if I started with those drugs at 14. The young mind and body cannot handle such an intense drug, it`s just a recipe for disaster.
 
If it is truely occassional, then realistically I see little potential harm. Just because he's 14 doesn't suddenly mean drugs are going to ruin him and i'm rather certain that MDMA is a pretty safe drug.

Look at all the teenagers binge drinking weekly & smoking tobacco. Alcohol is a powerful drug with potential for addiction, adverse health effects and, to a lesser extent, brain damage. Nevertheless, lots of teenagers abuse the drug weekly & still become successful and healthy. Taking substances during maturation increases the susceptibility to damage, but it doesn't mean he will definitely experience anything negative. I suppose the true dangers lie in the fact that they are young, naiive & feel like they're invincible so completely overdo it. Of course, the right decision, and advice, is to wait till you're 18 and feel knowledgable about what you're doing. But, prohibition never did work. So if he's hellbent on doing it, have a look around this forum for advice on how to do it as safely as possible. The 'Six Simple Rules' thread (situated at the top of the page) is a great place to start.
 
Put it like this, my first roll was at 18 (3 pills). I could feel the damage the very next day, and i noticed severe mood changes all the way until my next roll (1 month later).
A 14 year old doing this is pure stupidity. The out come that WILL happen, are a damaged and altered serotonin / dopamine system. Basically his happy neurons will be fucked up before he even reaches adult hood, a great way to start a shit life.
 
^^This. At 21, I feel that despite me being alot older, I am still perhaps on the limit on when MDMA should ACTUALLY be used.
 
I'm 23 now, and refuse to roll to this day. I still do other hard drugs, but MDMA is a big no no. Too much potential to alter my personality.
 
^I respect your ability to self-regulate mate. Nice to see someone who listens to their own body, and says "No, fuck this. No matter how good it feels". +1 for that!

The thought of doing MDMA at 14 just fills me with horror!
 
Same man, 14 is WAY too young.
I got strong will power with MDMA, my problem is i still do other drugs often :(
O well, at least they aren't neuro toxic
 
my problem is i still do other drugs often
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Well all have our vices man. You seem like a guy who is very self-aware of drug dangers and his own use (hence the no MDMA). That in itself takes major balls and puts you leauges above some drug users I know!

I have read some of your views on MDMA neurotoxicity, and whilst I don't agree with all of them, I can see that underneath, lies genuine concern and a desire to help others. That in itself is worth its weight in gold dude :)

PLUR!
 
Thanks bro, to be honest i have been through hell when i was rolling on a semi regular basis. I just don't want others to go through that which is why i come off as an extremist sometimes.

Definitely keep it PLUR though
 
I understand that position bro (took 500mg of MDMA at 200mg 6-APB over 2 days about 2 months ago) and suffered the worst comedown of my life plus brain zaps for a month! I was completely cured after a month and am now 2 months in to a 3 month break from everything (plan on giving MDMA another go in sept), but my attitude towards it has changed. I am now very aware of its dark side, and because of this, I have revised my approach. HOWEVER, I (as should others) must admit that the reason we experienced hell in the first place is because we were stupid with it (either rolling too often or doing too high). Moderation is the key ladies and gents, and boy, do I know that now.
 
Yea i remember when you posted your thread, it seemed like you thought you were doomed. But as always after a few more weeks things start to clear up :)
 
Seriously, I thought I was. Part of me is concinced it was the 6-APB that fucked me up, but that is just wishful thinking I think....Well, I just can't see MDMA alone giving you brain zaps for a month, but hey, I'm cured now. My next dose will be 200mg dropped at once with no re-dose, as I <3 my brain.
 
Yea one of my issues was i always redosed, and usually my redoses came like a few hours later. Which racked up a lot of damage, i wish i knew the info i know now back when i was rolling.
Weird thing is i've never really got a brain zap from an MDMA comedown but i have gone through everything else. DR, DP, anxiety, depression, visual problems etc..
Screw redosing!
 
^^Well I'm convinced that my brain zaps were a result of me rolling every month for a few months (as I never got brain zaps until I over did it on the MK's). Hence Im hoping this 3 month break will fix things!

Quick question for you on dosage then! As I won't be redosing, and will be dropping a 200-220mg pill at once, how long can I expect out of my roll after a 3 month break? My fear is that if I don't redose, it will be really short :( This is why I'm trying to weigh up a 1/4 pill redose at the 1 hour mark, but then that will probably take my total dosage to 250mg+ which isn't really a good thing...
 
It all depends. I remember when the first batch of pokeballs came out, they were extremely strong. The come up scared the living shit out of me , and i swear 1 pill had me peaking / high for at LEAST 5 hours. I haven't rolled for over a year and a half , if i were to take 200mg at once i would bet i could get a nice 6 hour roll out of it maybe more.
I find some MDMA seems to last shorter while some lasts longer, maybe a different synth?
 
I don't know if you are going to an event or what, but the longer you wait in the day the more rewarding the roll will be . So just make sure you wait till it is the perfect time and drop that sucker, don't drop too soon if you think it won't last that long.

edit: yea lugoj seems like me and silentroller are having a nice session here lol sorry :(
 
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