What cocaine "cut" makes you feel like this?

[Smooth_Roller]

i prefer to do coke with other people that are doing it also, i've done it plenty of times at parties and what not around drunk/sober people, and i dont really like it as much. simply because your on a different level from other people that arnt on it and you can just relate to people better that are doing it also.

 

[Dependence03]

Le Junk speaks the truth!!! Many people who think differently, and that these negative effects are due to long time use, tolerance, etc. have either:

A.) Never had the pleasure of using God's euphoric masterpiece - (aka good quality Cocaine HCL(with inactive cuts) that is rarely available in North America these days and from personal observation/experience has steadily spread throughout all regions of the country.

B.) Possibly are easily overcome by their mindset and expectations/opinions when it comes to psychoactive substances. These people are likely to experience placebo effects which can be pleasant or horrid.

One thing is for sure, cocaine quality and culture has and continues to slowly be overcome by the rise of street methamphetamine production/distribtion/use. I hope that whatever is causing the endangered "real" Coke to be replaced by this inferior combination of lookalike substances being sold as Coke will soon be discovered and stopped. I first started noticing this disgusting 'new age' coke that was causing these unpleasant symptoms around the second half of the 90's, but has dramatically spread and taken over in the new millenium. Coke of the 70's and 80's was so damn pleasant. Even though tolerance does develope, it isn't as dramatic as per say opiates. And also, one doesn't "Lose the magic" with coke like what some users of MDMA experience. I know many people aged 40's and 50's who used coke for 15+ years (some been using for ~30 years) and they were still getting high after daily use for years. This mystery dissapearance of real cocaine hcl which is now most likely a low amount of coke and an active cut with negative effects. Ephedrine, pseudo-ephedrine, and many others possibilites of cheap stimulants combined with an anesthestic like procaine could also be a culprit. Good Cocaine is still avaiable if you know the right people, but a lot of users are stuck with this new shit. Its a shame people that have tried coke and gotten this horrid new product instead have the belief that cocaine is shit, and just makes them feel like they are gonna have a heart attack. No Euphoria. Thats just not right. What is this stuff?!?!?!

 

[ktx49]

i've had both types of coke....SOUTHEAST, USA.

why would people cut coke with a much shittier drug though??
this what makes me skeptical about it being cut...

good QUALITY cocaine is probally 10 times more addictive in the long run(i mean, hey, what got le junk and other veteran coke users hooked??) than shitty amph cut coke is....of course during the night, you will end up using MORE of some shitty coke, but trust me in the long run they would be hurting their business. for example, look at heroin and the problems in new jersey! even shitty corner dealers have dope that is supposedly the purest in the world....now look at the number of H users in new jersey!!

good pure drugs=more users
shitty cut drugs=more haters, less users

 

[Smyth]

Le Junk is the coolest guy to ever walk the planet. I have visons that one day we can set up a coke factory and sell pure coke to the masses at whole-sale prices.

 

[wesmdow]

^ yeah i hate coke cause that's how it ALWAYS makes me feel, nothing to do with the cut

bad coke, and i have no idea whats in it, is what causes this.

good cocaine KICKS ASS. i cant tell you what yours is cut with (could be so many things) but if it makes you feel like that, then i promise its cut. all of the bad coke ive had does that to me, too.

i just found a new dealer.

 

[Le Junk]

If it's shitty cut coke (usually amphetamine cut), it will still give you the same reaction when IV'd, A/B extracted, or simply rocked up.

Amphetamines will happily travel thru every step of every one of those processes.

Isn't that great!

 

[jersey drape]

i skipped through a lot of the replies so sorry if this has been covered... but the poster mentioned feeling totally different than how he thinks old great songwriters felt and it might be the cut causing ill effects.... but freebasing is producing the same effecst... would it be safe to say that with freebase a lot of the cuts are gone because really onlt the cocaine and baking soda or whatever is used react to form the rock? Or are you smoking the cuts too... like if you cooked up a gram off the street with baking soda

 

[Le Junk]

^^^Jersey,

You cook up everything negative you can imagine (amphetamines, methamphetamines, ephedrine, psuedo-ephedrine etc) along with the actual cocaine by doing just a simple baking soda method or whats properly called the bi-carb method. Basically by cooking it into rock, the only thing you've done is taken everything you already had, including the cuts, and making it smokable.

Don't believe everything you hear from "rookies".

 

[mrmackey]

damn straight

i agree. 9 times out of 10 chatch makes me paranoid, weirded out, and especially angry. le bunk is right. drugs have been fucked up for us echo-boomers. rolling is a pain in the ass b/c true mdma is almost non-existant. blow is bullshit b/c u know who cuts it 50 fuckin times. bottom-line- this whole game is a pain in the ass.

 

[skiforlife]

Out of probably 100 cocaine experiences in Boulder, CO I had 2 times that weren't exactly like this:

time #1: First time with coke (which happened to be my gateway to hard drugs, not pot )

time #2: the one time we got coke that actually made you feel good instead of shitty.

all the other times it sucked.

 

[Le Junk]

skiforlife,

I've found the problem to be that the cocaine has been cut with amphetamines by the Mexican cartels. Probably to restore the lost power after they cut it to hell with mannitol.

I just found the way to actually remove the amphetamine from the cocaine. It's actually a very simple method, but I am just waiting on the solvent.

I'll keep you posted. This may actually make cocaine good for all of us again.

 

[ktx49]

yea but you're gonna be pissed when after all the washes and clean-ups to your coke, that your only left with 50% of the original mass....damn, thats like $100 a gram!

 

[Le Junk]

yea but you're gonna be pissed when after all the washes and clean-ups to your coke, that your only left with 50% of the original mass....damn, thats like $100 a gram!

I'm well aware of that, unfortunately. But if that's what it takes to enjoy my cocaine for once, then sobeit.

Remember, I've already bought the bag of shitty blow. Now, my choices are to either do it as is, which is definitely going to suck, or to turn it back into "real" cocaine, lose nothing but the cut, and have a wonderful evening.

I'll go with choice "B" anytime!

 

[ktx49]

yea dude...considering you already bought it, with your knowledge/tools, i'd consider you a fool if you DIDN'T clean it up!!

best of luck....this thread is kinda making me miss cocaine a little, but luckily i haven't had the pleasure of doing good shit but two or three different times, so i don't really know what i'm missing.

the word coke brings these thoughts to mind: anxiety, insomnia, hot/cold sweats, edgy/restlessness, etc.

as you can see, that does not sound like a very euphoric or fun drug!!!

 

[methfiend65]

I get these feelings but when I took 10 mg valium and .5 mg xanax with a half gram I felt like I was doing the good coke people always talk about.

 

[meesa]

So, if "real" coke is supposed to make you feel great, and bad coke is supposed to make you feel like shit... What if you felt neither?

I tried it for the first time last night, and I didn't feel too different. Nothing bad...but nothing good. Slight numbness, maybe a wee bit of a body high, I could talk easier tho....my thought were easily expressed...
I snorted 3 lines...but they were pretty small...so perhaps I didn't do enough...

 

[Le Junk]

yea dude...considering you already bought it, with your knowledge/tools, i'd consider you a fool if you DIDN'T clean it up!!

best of luck....this thread is kinda making me miss cocaine a little, but luckily i haven't had the pleasure of doing good shit but two or three different times, so i don't really know what i'm missing.

the word coke brings these thoughts to mind: anxiety, insomnia, hot/cold sweats, edgy/restlessness, etc.

as you can see, that does not sound like a very euphoric or fun drug!!!

It's true, cocaine did not become soooooo popular for making you feel like crap. Think about it. Cocaine actually used to be an orgy drug during the 70's and 80's. Can you even imagine wanting to have sex on the shit your getting. I doubt it.

I'll keep you posted as to my results.

 

[Le Junk]

I get these feelings but when I took 10 mg valium and .5 mg xanax with a half gram I felt like I was doing the good coke people always talk about.

That's funny, but that's exactly what I tell people (newbies) who are just getting into cocaine.

I give them a 10 ml. of Valium (much better than Xanax, by the way), and they're like "man, this is an awsome buzz". And your correct when you say that it's probably very similiar to the cocaine of old. In fact, it's almost exactly the same buzz, minus the increased libido.

Valium will take away the edgyness and the ampyness and leave behind the euphoria that was originally lost due to the unsuspecting amphetamine overdosing.

Hopefully this 99% isopropanol alcohol wash is going to clean all of that shit up. I will know as early as tomorrow.

I will definitely devote a post to my results as to the removal of amphetamines from my cocaine.

Keep your fingers crossed. This is hopefully the missing link.

 

[Le Junk]

So, if "real" coke is supposed to make you feel great, and bad coke is supposed to make you feel like shit... What if you felt neither?

I tried it for the first time last night, and I didn't feel too different. Nothing bad...but nothing good. Slight numbness, maybe a wee bit of a body high, I could talk easier tho....my thought were easily expressed...
I snorted 3 lines...but they were pretty small...so perhaps I didn't do enough...

Did you know that really great cocaine has a very subtle high? In fact, many users who have only been dealt cocaine cut with speed will actually think they've been duped when they get the "real thing".

Really great, non-actively cut cocaine should produce a slight euphoric high with about 2 minutes of doing two matchstick size lines. The full cocaine high should manifest itself within about 5 minutes after the initial two lines.

At this point, the user should start feeling an extreme clarity, increased talkativeness, openes, euphoria and a calming, that's right, calming effect. Your libido may start to be effected in a positive way during the next 45 minutes to an hour when the buzz will start to wear off.

If your buzz lasts longer than an hour and a half off of two matchstick size lines, then you my friend have been visited by the amphetamine fairy. She creats all of those wonderful feelings of craving, edgyness, ampyness, untalkativeness, paranoia etc. Good times! If this starts to happen, stop!

Anyway meesa, it sounds as though you might have just done some really great stuff and didn't know it. Most newer users (because of all of the heavy speed cut cocaine available today) think that cocaine is suppose to kick you in the ass, when in fact, that's exactly what it shouldn't do. The first time you do great cocaine, you might not even know you did it.

You know, that's my exact story. The very first time I ever did great cocaine, I thought that I was the center of some kind of joke by everyone around me. I thought the substance was something like, well I didn't really know of any at the time, but I definitely didn't think it was really cocaine.

But I did an increased talkativeness and generally good feeling. I was able to talk to people I normally wouldn't have and had an openess to me that i'd never experienced before. And, I did notice afterwards, that my libido was increased to the point that I was able to say and do things to get this really beautiful girl in bed, that I normally wouldn't have even approached.

If you continue to get this same exact stuff your talking about (make sure it's the exact same stuff), try it again. Don't be afraid to do more. If it's great coke, you will not feel uncomfortable at all and will start to notice all of the positive effects you were mentioning X 100.

Good luck, I'm jealous!

 

[ChemicalSmiles]

All the coke I have been getting the last couple years makes me feel really anxious and tense. I stopped fucking with it.

-weez